OT again: For pilots, frequent flyers, etc. - I can't imagine this scenario (Learjet crash in FL)

MtNittany

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Initial drop rate: The pilot radioed to air traffic control that they were descending at 10,000 feet per minute.

Overspeed acceleration: The descent quickly escalated past 20,000 feet per minute (with tracking data showing spikes up to 30,000 feet per minute).

Altitude loss: Flight data indicated the aircraft dropped roughly 27,000 feet in a single minute (or from around 35,000 feet to the ground in about one minute), traveling hundreds of miles per hour nearly straight down before the fatal impact that killed all nine people on board.

 
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PSU Mike

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I almost wonder whether once the pilot knew they were going to die that they decided to make the ending as quick as possible.
 

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Supposed to be related to icing at altitude. They should never have flown into the stormy weather. They were diverting flights to Ft. Myers instead of heading to Miami.
 
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I was looking at the still picture right before impact. Both wings are not visible (only a hint of one wing). I suspect one or both of the heavy, iced up wings snapped off when they encountered heavy turbulence. Obviously beyond the tolerances that the wings were designed to handle. The plane basically became a missile that could not be controlled in any manner. That’s probably why some of the ground observers thought a missile hit the ground.
 

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I was looking at the still picture right before impact. Both wings are not visible (only a hint of one wing). I suspect one or both of the heavy, iced up wings snapped off when they encountered heavy turbulence. Obviously beyond the tolerances that the wings were designed to handle. The plane basically became a missile that could not be controlled in any manner. That’s probably why some of the ground observers thought a missile hit the ground.
I'm the furthest thing from being an engineer but I heard an interview of someone who knows infinity more than I do about this stuff. One point was the wings were still there, but the plane was travelling so fast that the frame rate of the camera was too slow to capture them clearly against a similar background. In addition, if the wing(s) were gone, the plane wouldn't have had such a straight trajectory. There likely would have been a yaw on one of the axes and the plane would have hit the ground at a sideways angle instead of nose down.

Also, people are talking about the audio as if the female was the pilot. She wasn't. She was the co-pilot and it's part of her duties to do the radio comms, among other things. The first officer was in control and was busy trying to fly the plane.

But again, I'm just a guy with no expertise. Just regurgitating what I heard.
 

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The jet was traveling around 350 mph when it crashed, and they obviously had no control of it. No one on the ground was even injured, which is remarkable.

Was responding to the idea that the pilot was looking to end things quickly. Remarkable no one was injured.
 

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The female was the first officer and was performing “pilot monitoring duties”

Jet aircraft have a minimum speed, below which it will stall. They also have a maximum speed, above which they experience “Mach tuck”.

as the jet climbs higher, the minimum speed increases and the maximum speed decreases. They converge at some point referred to as the coffin corner.

Staying below this altitude gives pilots the option to either speed up or slow down. When near this altitude, turbulence can increase or decrease airspeed to the point where either a stall occurs or Mach tuck occurs.

this aircraft appears to have experienced Mach tuck because of the immediate nose down attitude the pilots experienced.

Contributing to this, I think their radome may have become iced over because shortly before they became uncontrollable, they elected to turn into, as opposed to around, the largest storm cel. Ice on the radome makes the airborne radar almost useless.

in the final frames, it looks to me like the horizontal stabilizer is completely missing.
 

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Quick thoughts from my brother who’s been a private (recreational) pilot for about 30 years and is a volunteer for Angel Flights for about 20 years - so has a lot of flight time. He has also taken aerobatic classes that have you enter into stalls in order to know what to do to get yourself out of them.

I forwarded him a question from Reddit:

“Someone said: Learjet in a Mach over speed is unrecoverable”. If true, why?”

His response:

“Shock waves blanket control sufaces specifically elevators . Absolutely no way to recover from a stall. They were probably yanking and pushing like mad and doing nothing. Plus with actual moisture at that altitude you are talking supercooled droplets. Will turn entire plane into an icecube in seconds worst case. That’s another way to get into an unrecoverable. At that descent speed not enough time for ice to ablate in warmer atmosphere. Don’t fly into a ******* thunderstorm and don’t try to outclimb it.

The response to icing, to request a 2000 ft climb, is a by the book response to a normal ice encounter, though 4000 is usual. Up or down. But they should have recognized abnormal conditions.

Probably lots of hours as flight instructors in 172s not much real world flying experience except what they learned on job.”
 

psuro

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Maybe try somewhere that isn’t a highway? Crazy.
I don't think the pilot had much of a chance as to where the plane will land, if the icing is the issue - I also don't agree with Mike about the pilot wanting to end it as soon as possible - pilots are trained to continue to fly the plane and he (assuming it's he) probably did.
 
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Local news here in Florida had an investigator stating that early evidence indicated that the aircraft had started to break up in the air. They are going to look aircraft parts that may have fallen along the flight path, although finding something is going to be quite difficult. A proverbial needle in a haystack.
 

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Pilot from Limerick, PA strong faith heard saying the Lords Prayer near the end when they knew there was no chance of saving the plane. Going to be interesting to see what the true speed of that plane was as it doesn't reach terminal velocity and kept accelerating in the 60 degree pitch as it rocketed downward. That storm came over us and was insane. Kept exploding larger as it moved. Most likely why they asked to climb to.37k but didn't have enough info that storm tops were already at 47k. Fly right into the worst part of the storm. Add in the lift of water droplets in the core for icing as the storm exploded in strength they didn't have much of a chance. Storm exploded in strength went from 37 dbz to 54 dbz in little time some are saying it was a 1,000 year storm. Bless all their families including local girl who was co pilot from West Boca High who knowing what was coming still talked to the tower relaying information.
 
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Local news here in Florida had an investigator stating that early evidence indicated that the aircraft had started to break up in the air. They are going to look aircraft parts that may have fallen along the flight path, although finding something is going to be quite difficult. A proverbial needle in a haystack.
That makes more sense. Aircrafts frequently fly through cloud storms without suddenly icing to the point of crashing.

There has to be more to this story.
 

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That makes more sense. Aircrafts frequently fly through cloud storms without suddenly icing to the point of crashing.

There has to be more to this story.
Not storms of this strength. Let alone punch the core. Numerous commercial pilots discussed how they flew around that storm due to its strength. Commercial planes have much better equipment warning them of these types of storms.
 
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Trying to find out if the guy who wrote this is legit and not AI but does seem to be legit(although this may be written by AI which many do now for business emails) and breaks it down for everyone...

The NTSB will have the final word, but as a former Law Enforcement Officer specializing in crash investigations, as well as a 26-year airline veteran and having been trained and experienced in airliner crash investigations as a member of the NTSB “Go Team”, I have been tracking the data on the tragic Learjet 60 crash in Florida. The internet is flooded with “cruise missile” conspiracy theories. However, the raw physics and the physical evidence on the ground completely debunk that nonsense.
A cursory review of the flight data revealed an aircraft at 35,000 feet entering an area of known precipitation, turbulence, and severe icing near a rapidly intensifying storm cell that ballooned 15,000 feet upward in just 20 minutes. This was followed by a sudden plunge with descent rates topping 32,000 feet per minute, which is roughly 360 mph straight down. To anyone who understands aerodynamics and aircraft structures, that strongly suggests a catastrophic aerodynamic upset where the airframe was pushed far past its absolute breaking point.
The trouble likely started with severe icing on the tail. On a T-tail aircraft like the Learjet 60, the horizontal stabilizer has a tighter surface curvature than the main wing, meaning it collects ice much faster. If ice disrupts the airflow over the tail, it loses its downward aerodynamic lift, which is the exact force that keeps the nose up. The result is an immediate, violent nose down pitch.
As the jet pitched down and rapidly accelerated out of control, it quickly sped past its Maximum Operating Speed of 340 knots (391 mph) and Mach 0.81. At those near sonic speeds, a phenomenon called Mach Tuck occurs. The shockwaves forming on the wings cause the center of lift to shift rearward, creating a natural, aggressive pitch down tendency. At that point, the aerodynamic forces become too massive for any human or autopilot to manually overpower.
This extreme speed also puts a unique, brutal stress on the propulsion system. The Learjet 60 is powered by Pratt and Whitney PW305A turbofans, and during a severe overspeed dive, the engines face a massive influx of high velocity, high density air. This can cause the fan blades and compressors to operate way outside their aerodynamic design limits, leading to severe compressor stalls, engine surges, or even structural failure of the rotating components due to the sheer kinetic energy forcing its way through the core.
Down in the lower, denser air, traveling at speeds well over 400 knots (460 mph), the dynamic pressure and G-loads easily exceeded the airframe's certified limits of +3.0G and -1.0G. Between the violent atmospheric turbulence and the extreme overspeed flutter, the structural load simply became too much.
This brings us to the actual impact site and why it completely destroys the “missile” theory.
Look closely at the crash photo. If a missile had struck, you would see a single, uniform, circular crater. Instead, look at the geometry of the damage. You have a heavy main crater right next to an untouched, upright utility pole, but you also have a long, sharp, linear fracture tearing right through the asphalt extending away from it.
That linear slash is the smoking gun. It is the unmistakable footprint of an aircraft striking the ground in a near vertical, knife edge, right bank. In that position, the wings are oriented vertically to the ground. The individual wing panel on a Learjet 60 measures 18 feet 7 inches from the fuselage skin to the wingtip. The distance from that main crater to the edge of the linear pavement slash is approximately 15 to 20 feet.
What we are looking at is the exact spot where the right wing and its high strength winglet sliced into the road like a massive knife blade, while the fuselage and left wing impacted just feet away. At the exact same microsecond, the left wing, now towering nearly 20 feet straight up into the air, would have acted like a vertical guillotine, cleanly severing the parallel overhead power lines spanning 18 to 30 feet above the easement without ever knocking down the adjacent electrical pole.
A symmetrical cruise missile simply does not have the wingspan, the geometry, or the physical structure to leave a this type of a dual damage footprint.
When a combination of severe weather and aerodynamic forces interact upon an airframe this far outside its design envelope, the metal and the physics simply give way. The evidence on the ground doesn't lie:
This was a tragic high altitude loss of control, not a missile strike.
This also addresses the social media conspiracy as to why no large debris or recognizable wreckage seems to exist. People look at a smoking hole in the ground and immediately scream “cover up”. However, as someone who has worked on complex structures, I can tell you that the complete absence of large debris is exactly what happens when physics meets extreme kinetic energy.
The tracking data shows the jet plunging straight down at several hundred miles per hour. When a 58 foot long business jet made predominantly of lightweight aluminum alloy strikes solid earth and asphalt at near sonic speeds, the physics are absolute. The tremendous kinetic energy cannot just stop, it has to dissipate instantaneously. At those velocities, the energy transfer completely obliterates the airframe. The metal doesn't just bend, it fragments into thousands of tiny pieces, shatters, and is driven deep underground into the crater itself or consumed in the intense, fuel fed fireball.
The plane didn't vanish, and it wasn't a solid missile. It was an aluminum machine subjected to a cataclysmic high velocity impact that pulverized the structure. The lack of recognizable wreckage isn't a mystery, it is a textbook demonstration of high speed physics.
For those of you who have spent hours on social media, sharing the conspiracy theories of crackpots, find the courage and dignity to delete your posts.
 

PSU Mike

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I don't think the pilot had much of a chance as to where the plane will land, if the icing is the issue - I also don't agree with Mike about the pilot wanting to end it as soon as possible - pilots are trained to continue to fly the plane and he (assuming it's he) probably did.
Mine was only a passing thought. I didn’t realize the plane was so likely to hold together as well as it did, which was probably necessary to have such a high speed at impact. It was an uninformed guess that either the plane would break up more or the pilot would have some control.
 

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Trying to find out if the guy who wrote this is legit and not AI but does seem to be legit(although this may be written by AI which many do now for business emails) and breaks it down for everyone...

The NTSB will have the final word, but as a former Law Enforcement Officer specializing in crash investigations, as well as a 26-year airline veteran and having been trained and experienced in airliner crash investigations as a member of the NTSB “Go Team”, I have been tracking the data on the tragic Learjet 60 crash in Florida. The internet is flooded with “cruise missile” conspiracy theories. However, the raw physics and the physical evidence on the ground completely debunk that nonsense.
A cursory review of the flight data revealed an aircraft at 35,000 feet entering an area of known precipitation, turbulence, and severe icing near a rapidly intensifying storm cell that ballooned 15,000 feet upward in just 20 minutes. This was followed by a sudden plunge with descent rates topping 32,000 feet per minute, which is roughly 360 mph straight down. To anyone who understands aerodynamics and aircraft structures, that strongly suggests a catastrophic aerodynamic upset where the airframe was pushed far past its absolute breaking point.
The trouble likely started with severe icing on the tail. On a T-tail aircraft like the Learjet 60, the horizontal stabilizer has a tighter surface curvature than the main wing, meaning it collects ice much faster. If ice disrupts the airflow over the tail, it loses its downward aerodynamic lift, which is the exact force that keeps the nose up. The result is an immediate, violent nose down pitch.
As the jet pitched down and rapidly accelerated out of control, it quickly sped past its Maximum Operating Speed of 340 knots (391 mph) and Mach 0.81. At those near sonic speeds, a phenomenon called Mach Tuck occurs. The shockwaves forming on the wings cause the center of lift to shift rearward, creating a natural, aggressive pitch down tendency. At that point, the aerodynamic forces become too massive for any human or autopilot to manually overpower.
This extreme speed also puts a unique, brutal stress on the propulsion system. The Learjet 60 is powered by Pratt and Whitney PW305A turbofans, and during a severe overspeed dive, the engines face a massive influx of high velocity, high density air. This can cause the fan blades and compressors to operate way outside their aerodynamic design limits, leading to severe compressor stalls, engine surges, or even structural failure of the rotating components due to the sheer kinetic energy forcing its way through the core.
Down in the lower, denser air, traveling at speeds well over 400 knots (460 mph), the dynamic pressure and G-loads easily exceeded the airframe's certified limits of +3.0G and -1.0G. Between the violent atmospheric turbulence and the extreme overspeed flutter, the structural load simply became too much.
This brings us to the actual impact site and why it completely destroys the “missile” theory.
Look closely at the crash photo. If a missile had struck, you would see a single, uniform, circular crater. Instead, look at the geometry of the damage. You have a heavy main crater right next to an untouched, upright utility pole, but you also have a long, sharp, linear fracture tearing right through the asphalt extending away from it.
That linear slash is the smoking gun. It is the unmistakable footprint of an aircraft striking the ground in a near vertical, knife edge, right bank. In that position, the wings are oriented vertically to the ground. The individual wing panel on a Learjet 60 measures 18 feet 7 inches from the fuselage skin to the wingtip. The distance from that main crater to the edge of the linear pavement slash is approximately 15 to 20 feet.
What we are looking at is the exact spot where the right wing and its high strength winglet sliced into the road like a massive knife blade, while the fuselage and left wing impacted just feet away. At the exact same microsecond, the left wing, now towering nearly 20 feet straight up into the air, would have acted like a vertical guillotine, cleanly severing the parallel overhead power lines spanning 18 to 30 feet above the easement without ever knocking down the adjacent electrical pole.
A symmetrical cruise missile simply does not have the wingspan, the geometry, or the physical structure to leave a this type of a dual damage footprint.
When a combination of severe weather and aerodynamic forces interact upon an airframe this far outside its design envelope, the metal and the physics simply give way. The evidence on the ground doesn't lie:
This was a tragic high altitude loss of control, not a missile strike.
This also addresses the social media conspiracy as to why no large debris or recognizable wreckage seems to exist. People look at a smoking hole in the ground and immediately scream “cover up”. However, as someone who has worked on complex structures, I can tell you that the complete absence of large debris is exactly what happens when physics meets extreme kinetic energy.
The tracking data shows the jet plunging straight down at several hundred miles per hour. When a 58 foot long business jet made predominantly of lightweight aluminum alloy strikes solid earth and asphalt at near sonic speeds, the physics are absolute. The tremendous kinetic energy cannot just stop, it has to dissipate instantaneously. At those velocities, the energy transfer completely obliterates the airframe. The metal doesn't just bend, it fragments into thousands of tiny pieces, shatters, and is driven deep underground into the crater itself or consumed in the intense, fuel fed fireball.
The plane didn't vanish, and it wasn't a solid missile. It was an aluminum machine subjected to a cataclysmic high velocity impact that pulverized the structure. The lack of recognizable wreckage isn't a mystery, it is a textbook demonstration of high speed physics.
For those of you who have spent hours on social media, sharing the conspiracy theories of crackpots, find the courage and dignity to delete your posts.
Science and applied knowledge can’t be beat
 

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Trying to find out if the guy who wrote this is legit and not AI but does seem to be legit(although this may be written by AI which many do now for business emails) and breaks it down for everyone...

The NTSB will have the final word, but as a former Law Enforcement Officer specializing in crash investigations, as well as a 26-year airline veteran and having been trained and experienced in airliner crash investigations as a member of the NTSB “Go Team”, I have been tracking the data on the tragic Learjet 60 crash in Florida. The internet is flooded with “cruise missile” conspiracy theories. However, the raw physics and the physical evidence on the ground completely debunk that nonsense.
A cursory review of the flight data revealed an aircraft at 35,000 feet entering an area of known precipitation, turbulence, and severe icing near a rapidly intensifying storm cell that ballooned 15,000 feet upward in just 20 minutes. This was followed by a sudden plunge with descent rates topping 32,000 feet per minute, which is roughly 360 mph straight down. To anyone who understands aerodynamics and aircraft structures, that strongly suggests a catastrophic aerodynamic upset where the airframe was pushed far past its absolute breaking point.
The trouble likely started with severe icing on the tail. On a T-tail aircraft like the Learjet 60, the horizontal stabilizer has a tighter surface curvature than the main wing, meaning it collects ice much faster. If ice disrupts the airflow over the tail, it loses its downward aerodynamic lift, which is the exact force that keeps the nose up. The result is an immediate, violent nose down pitch.
As the jet pitched down and rapidly accelerated out of control, it quickly sped past its Maximum Operating Speed of 340 knots (391 mph) and Mach 0.81. At those near sonic speeds, a phenomenon called Mach Tuck occurs. The shockwaves forming on the wings cause the center of lift to shift rearward, creating a natural, aggressive pitch down tendency. At that point, the aerodynamic forces become too massive for any human or autopilot to manually overpower.
This extreme speed also puts a unique, brutal stress on the propulsion system. The Learjet 60 is powered by Pratt and Whitney PW305A turbofans, and during a severe overspeed dive, the engines face a massive influx of high velocity, high density air. This can cause the fan blades and compressors to operate way outside their aerodynamic design limits, leading to severe compressor stalls, engine surges, or even structural failure of the rotating components due to the sheer kinetic energy forcing its way through the core.
Down in the lower, denser air, traveling at speeds well over 400 knots (460 mph), the dynamic pressure and G-loads easily exceeded the airframe's certified limits of +3.0G and -1.0G. Between the violent atmospheric turbulence and the extreme overspeed flutter, the structural load simply became too much.
This brings us to the actual impact site and why it completely destroys the “missile” theory.
Look closely at the crash photo. If a missile had struck, you would see a single, uniform, circular crater. Instead, look at the geometry of the damage. You have a heavy main crater right next to an untouched, upright utility pole, but you also have a long, sharp, linear fracture tearing right through the asphalt extending away from it.
That linear slash is the smoking gun. It is the unmistakable footprint of an aircraft striking the ground in a near vertical, knife edge, right bank. In that position, the wings are oriented vertically to the ground. The individual wing panel on a Learjet 60 measures 18 feet 7 inches from the fuselage skin to the wingtip. The distance from that main crater to the edge of the linear pavement slash is approximately 15 to 20 feet.
What we are looking at is the exact spot where the right wing and its high strength winglet sliced into the road like a massive knife blade, while the fuselage and left wing impacted just feet away. At the exact same microsecond, the left wing, now towering nearly 20 feet straight up into the air, would have acted like a vertical guillotine, cleanly severing the parallel overhead power lines spanning 18 to 30 feet above the easement without ever knocking down the adjacent electrical pole.
A symmetrical cruise missile simply does not have the wingspan, the geometry, or the physical structure to leave a this type of a dual damage footprint.
When a combination of severe weather and aerodynamic forces interact upon an airframe this far outside its design envelope, the metal and the physics simply give way. The evidence on the ground doesn't lie:
This was a tragic high altitude loss of control, not a missile strike.
This also addresses the social media conspiracy as to why no large debris or recognizable wreckage seems to exist. People look at a smoking hole in the ground and immediately scream “cover up”. However, as someone who has worked on complex structures, I can tell you that the complete absence of large debris is exactly what happens when physics meets extreme kinetic energy.
The tracking data shows the jet plunging straight down at several hundred miles per hour. When a 58 foot long business jet made predominantly of lightweight aluminum alloy strikes solid earth and asphalt at near sonic speeds, the physics are absolute. The tremendous kinetic energy cannot just stop, it has to dissipate instantaneously. At those velocities, the energy transfer completely obliterates the airframe. The metal doesn't just bend, it fragments into thousands of tiny pieces, shatters, and is driven deep underground into the crater itself or consumed in the intense, fuel fed fireball.
The plane didn't vanish, and it wasn't a solid missile. It was an aluminum machine subjected to a cataclysmic high velocity impact that pulverized the structure. The lack of recognizable wreckage isn't a mystery, it is a textbook demonstration of high speed physics.
For those of you who have spent hours on social media, sharing the conspiracy theories of crackpots, find the courage and dignity to delete your posts.
So, it wasn't a surface to air missile fired from Mar-A-Lago?
 

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Pilot from Limerick, PA strong faith heard saying the Lords Prayer near the end when they knew there was no chance of saving the plane. Going to be interesting to see what the true speed of that plane was as it doesn't reach terminal velocity and kept accelerating in the 60 degree pitch as it rocketed downward. That storm came over us and was insane. Kept exploding larger as it moved. Most likely why they asked to climb to.37k but didn't have enough info that storm tops were already at 47k. Fly right into the worst part of the storm. Add in the lift of water droplets in the core for icing as the storm exploded in strength they didn't have much of a chance. Storm exploded in strength went from 37 dbz to 54 dbz in little time some are saying it was a 1,000 year storm. Bless all their families including local girl who was co pilot from West Boca High who knowing what was coming still talked to the tower relaying information.
Makes you wonder why this doesn't happen more often. Lots of planes get caught in bad storms but don't crash. Very sad.
 

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Trying to find out if the guy who wrote this is legit and not AI but does seem to be legit(although this may be written by AI which many do now for business emails) and breaks it down for everyone...

The NTSB will have the final word, but as a former Law Enforcement Officer specializing in crash investigations, as well as a 26-year airline veteran and having been trained and experienced in airliner crash investigations as a member of the NTSB “Go Team”, I have been tracking the data on the tragic Learjet 60 crash in Florida. The internet is flooded with “cruise missile” conspiracy theories. However, the raw physics and the physical evidence on the ground completely debunk that nonsense.
A cursory review of the flight data revealed an aircraft at 35,000 feet entering an area of known precipitation, turbulence, and severe icing near a rapidly intensifying storm cell that ballooned 15,000 feet upward in just 20 minutes. This was followed by a sudden plunge with descent rates topping 32,000 feet per minute, which is roughly 360 mph straight down. To anyone who understands aerodynamics and aircraft structures, that strongly suggests a catastrophic aerodynamic upset where the airframe was pushed far past its absolute breaking point.
The trouble likely started with severe icing on the tail. On a T-tail aircraft like the Learjet 60, the horizontal stabilizer has a tighter surface curvature than the main wing, meaning it collects ice much faster. If ice disrupts the airflow over the tail, it loses its downward aerodynamic lift, which is the exact force that keeps the nose up. The result is an immediate, violent nose down pitch.
As the jet pitched down and rapidly accelerated out of control, it quickly sped past its Maximum Operating Speed of 340 knots (391 mph) and Mach 0.81. At those near sonic speeds, a phenomenon called Mach Tuck occurs. The shockwaves forming on the wings cause the center of lift to shift rearward, creating a natural, aggressive pitch down tendency. At that point, the aerodynamic forces become too massive for any human or autopilot to manually overpower.
This extreme speed also puts a unique, brutal stress on the propulsion system. The Learjet 60 is powered by Pratt and Whitney PW305A turbofans, and during a severe overspeed dive, the engines face a massive influx of high velocity, high density air. This can cause the fan blades and compressors to operate way outside their aerodynamic design limits, leading to severe compressor stalls, engine surges, or even structural failure of the rotating components due to the sheer kinetic energy forcing its way through the core.
Down in the lower, denser air, traveling at speeds well over 400 knots (460 mph), the dynamic pressure and G-loads easily exceeded the airframe's certified limits of +3.0G and -1.0G. Between the violent atmospheric turbulence and the extreme overspeed flutter, the structural load simply became too much.
This brings us to the actual impact site and why it completely destroys the “missile” theory.
Look closely at the crash photo. If a missile had struck, you would see a single, uniform, circular crater. Instead, look at the geometry of the damage. You have a heavy main crater right next to an untouched, upright utility pole, but you also have a long, sharp, linear fracture tearing right through the asphalt extending away from it.
That linear slash is the smoking gun. It is the unmistakable footprint of an aircraft striking the ground in a near vertical, knife edge, right bank. In that position, the wings are oriented vertically to the ground. The individual wing panel on a Learjet 60 measures 18 feet 7 inches from the fuselage skin to the wingtip. The distance from that main crater to the edge of the linear pavement slash is approximately 15 to 20 feet.
What we are looking at is the exact spot where the right wing and its high strength winglet sliced into the road like a massive knife blade, while the fuselage and left wing impacted just feet away. At the exact same microsecond, the left wing, now towering nearly 20 feet straight up into the air, would have acted like a vertical guillotine, cleanly severing the parallel overhead power lines spanning 18 to 30 feet above the easement without ever knocking down the adjacent electrical pole.
A symmetrical cruise missile simply does not have the wingspan, the geometry, or the physical structure to leave a this type of a dual damage footprint.
When a combination of severe weather and aerodynamic forces interact upon an airframe this far outside its design envelope, the metal and the physics simply give way. The evidence on the ground doesn't lie:
This was a tragic high altitude loss of control, not a missile strike.
This also addresses the social media conspiracy as to why no large debris or recognizable wreckage seems to exist. People look at a smoking hole in the ground and immediately scream “cover up”. However, as someone who has worked on complex structures, I can tell you that the complete absence of large debris is exactly what happens when physics meets extreme kinetic energy.
The tracking data shows the jet plunging straight down at several hundred miles per hour. When a 58 foot long business jet made predominantly of lightweight aluminum alloy strikes solid earth and asphalt at near sonic speeds, the physics are absolute. The tremendous kinetic energy cannot just stop, it has to dissipate instantaneously. At those velocities, the energy transfer completely obliterates the airframe. The metal doesn't just bend, it fragments into thousands of tiny pieces, shatters, and is driven deep underground into the crater itself or consumed in the intense, fuel fed fireball.
The plane didn't vanish, and it wasn't a solid missile. It was an aluminum machine subjected to a cataclysmic high velocity impact that pulverized the structure. The lack of recognizable wreckage isn't a mystery, it is a textbook demonstration of high speed physics.
For those of you who have spent hours on social media, sharing the conspiracy theories of crackpots, find the courage and dignity to delete your posts.
Way too many people wear tin foil hats - missile stike WTF? The interwebs is the last bastion of the dumb and ill informed.
 
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