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psu83 · Sunday at 8:13 AM

I don't watch anywhere near the amount of college football games as I used to as I feel the sport has proliferated to a who's who of money spenders\money grabbers and not the game I grew up watching. The question I have is this: when I watch a game now the announcers are mushmouthed loud mouths, trying to top each other and show how articulate they are while demonstrating they did nothing with their education while in school. I grew up watching\enjoying Keith Jackson, Brent Musberger, Curt Gowdy etc (showing my age now

) and trying to listen to games now is aggravating. Thoughts?

MtNittany · Sunday at 8:16 AM

I mute even PSU games and play Supertramp or Mick Taylor Stones. If there is some call to be explained, or something I really need to hear, then I'll hit the remote.

BobPSU92 · Sunday at 8:29 AM

Chumboshifko1 · Sunday at 8:31 AM

Used to record every game. Stopped doing that back in the day.

laKavosiey-st lion · Sunday at 9:04 AM

There are about 10 or so college announcer seats in the entire country. It amazes me you all discount the guys who score those seats. I’m guessing they worked their asses off to win those spots.

psu83 · Sunday at 9:06 AM

laKavosiey-st lion said:
There are about 10 or so college announcer seats in the entire country. It amazes me you all discount the guys who score those seats. I’m guessing they worked their asses off to win the spots.

I didn't realize there were only 10 college announcer seats? Seems there are more than 10 college games aired, do these 10 announcers jet from game to game?

laKavosiey-st lion · Sunday at 9:11 AM

psu83 said:
I didn't realize there were only 10 college announcer seats? Seems there are more than 10 college games aired, do these 10 announcers jet from game to game?

Of course but you’re not criticizing the tools who called the Harvard game yesterday.

84lion · Sunday at 9:17 AM

I watched a bit of the Florida-Georgia game yesterday, it sounded like Kirk Herbstreit and whoever the PxP guy is (can't recall the name at the moment). Can't stand Herbie. Glad I didn't care much about the game. Then there was Fox. Whatever the 3:30 game was, the crowd noise was overwhelming my rear surround speakers (funny, not a problem with CBS or ABC so much, hmm) although the announcers were full blast. Only reason I switched on these games is because it was during my daily workout routine.

We switched to Youtube TV last summer, so last year we had BTN and all the sports networks. This spring, we switched our package to the least expensive one and ditched sports. It's been great - I haven't missed it. I do follow the Penn State games and other scores on Yahoo, but that's about it. CFB and Pro football are fading fast in my rear view mirror. Better things to do.

psu83 · Sunday at 9:37 AM

laKavosiey-st lion said:
Of course but you’re not criticizing the tools who called the Harvard game yesterday.

I was being facetious, My Friend, all in good fun. I've watched games on ESPN, Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc and the announcers, for the most part, are horrendous

laKavosiey-st lion · Sunday at 11:00 AM

Dammit missed it completely

PSUHarry · 2026-11-05T06:10:37-0600

84lion said:
I watched a bit of the Florida-Georgia game yesterday, it sounded like Kirk Herbstreit and whoever the PxP guy is (can't recall the name at the moment). Can't stand Herbie. Glad I didn't care much about the game. Then there was Fox. Whatever the 3:30 game was, the crowd noise was overwhelming my rear surround speakers (funny, not a problem with CBS or ABC so much, hmm) although the announcers were full blast. Only reason I switched on these games is because it was during my daily workout routine.

We switched to Youtube TV last summer, so last year we had BTN and all the sports networks. This spring, we switched our package to the least expensive one and ditched sports. It's been great - I haven't missed it. I do follow the Penn State games and other scores on Yahoo, but that's about it. CFB and Pro football are fading fast in my rear view mirror. Better things to do.

What is it you don’t like about Herbie? I think the other guy was probably Chris Fowler.

PSU Mike · 2026-11-05T06:17:42-0600

laKavosiey-st lion said:
There are about 10 or so college announcer seats in the entire country. It amazes me you all discount the guys who score those seats. I’m guessing they worked their asses off to win those spots.

Well there’s only one U.S. president.

LionJim · 2026-11-05T06:28:23-0600

PSU Mike said:
Well there’s only one U.S. presidency, only one @Tom McAndrew.

Fixed, ffs. Now, off to the gym!

Kroixklk · 2026-11-05T07:38:02-0600

PSUHarry said:
What is it you don’t like about Herbie? I think the other guy was probably Chris Fowler.

Probably the best two out there so you have a very high ceiling.

barry j fenchak · 2026-11-05T07:52:21-0600

psu83 said:
I don't watch anywhere near the amount of college football games as I used to as I feel the sport has proliferated to a who's who of money spenders\money grabbers and not the game I grew up watching. The question I have is this: when I watch a game now the announcers are mushmouthed loud mouths, trying to top each other and show how articulate they are while demonstrating they did nothing with their education while in school. I grew up watching\enjoying Keith Jackson, Brent Musberger, Curt Gowdy etc (showing my age now ) and trying to listen to games now is aggravating. Thoughts?

If you included Musberger in the ones that you enjoyed, there is really little that can be said. He was the absolute worst.

JerseyLion · 2026-11-05T08:07:44-0600

It doesn't get any worse than Gus Johnson. What a clown!

I do like Todd Blackledge. I am not as crazy about Matt Millen even though he is such a PSU homer.

Navion N8865H · 2026-11-05T08:20:14-0600

Chumboshifko1 said:
Used to record every game. Stopped doing that back in the day.

Ah, the days of recording games on blank VHS tapes, only to find out the copy (magnetic I assume) degrades over the years. Plus, who has a VHS player anymore.

Alphalion75 · 2026-11-05T08:30:55-0600

psu83 said:
I don't watch anywhere near the amount of college football games as I used to as I feel the sport has proliferated to a who's who of money spenders\money grabbers and not the game I grew up watching. The question I have is this: when I watch a game now the announcers are mushmouthed loud mouths, trying to top each other and show how articulate they are while demonstrating they did nothing with their education while in school. I grew up watching\enjoying Keith Jackson, Brent Musberger, Curt Gowdy etc (showing my age now ) and trying to listen to games now is aggravating. Thoughts?

The announcers today talk to much and are purveyors of the obvious.

BobPSU92 said:

Gus Johnson is the worst.

NoBareFeet · 2026-11-05T08:42:19-0600

Gus Johnson at play-by-play, and RGIII as an analyst are two guys that can materially reduce my enjoyment of watching a game. Most of the time I basically tune the announcers out.

retsio · 2026-11-05T08:59:36-0600

Unfortunately, I have seen local news in the 45 States I have visited professionally or personal basis. The level of hype and slogans to attract viewers is unheard of and disgusting. I wonder if any of them have even visited a college course in English, Public Speaking, Drama or Debate. The word 'job' should be replaced with 'work', 'have got' is a negative command/demand and 'reporting live' - we know you are not dead.

Two of the worst on the national scene were T. LLamas and Elizabeth Vargas and the many who maintain a speaking part as an additional observer. And - Gus Johnson is terrible - enough said.

At one time, baseball announcers were gifted with insights to be reported, now many just talk to hear themselves positioned for notoriety. They were just one man in the booth, but now everything is two or more who must have their say. Like the announcers on local tv, bantering back and forth .........unlike the God of Local TV - Jim Gardner of Philadelphia. He regularly had 93% market domination during his broadcasts.

I cringe at the use of the English language being used and additionally the 'slanguage' used to attract viewers. Hopefully one day our resistance will be noted and change will happen. Until then ........good luck.

LionJim · 2026-11-05T09:04:18-0600

It seems that the announcers talk as if they were assuming the viewer had never before watched a football game.

Bvillebaron · 2026-11-05T09:05:18-0600

laKavosiey-st lion said:
There are about 10 or so college announcer seats in the entire country. It amazes me you all discount the guys who score those seats. I’m guessing they worked their asses off to win those spots.

So they are immune from criticism because they worked their asses off to get their jobs?

Bvillebaron · 2026-11-05T09:07:55-0600

barry j fenchak said:
If you included Musberger in the ones that you enjoyed, there is really little that can be said. He was the absolute worst.

Musberger was bad but I forgave his incompetence after Penn State completed its comeback from 21 points down against Illinois in 1994 and he said I don’t know about the polls but I just saw the best team in the country. Might be the only time he was right.

olelion · 2026-11-05T09:12:16-0600

psu83 said:
I don't watch anywhere near the amount of college football games as I used to as I feel the sport has proliferated to a who's who of money spenders\money grabbers and not the game I grew up watching. The question I have is this: when I watch a game now the announcers are mushmouthed loud mouths, trying to top each other and show how articulate they are while demonstrating they did nothing with their education while in school. I grew up watching\enjoying Keith Jackson, Brent Musberger, Curt Gowdy etc (showing my age now ) and trying to listen to games now is aggravating. Thoughts?

Oh you're onto it. One guy is describing in a corporate approved tone what YOU are watching, and the semi-articulate ex jock wearing a suit that will be out of style by the end of the game is attempting to tell you what you should have seen. This is my view of too many of the broadcasts. There are some good broadcast teams out there however and no need to mention them. We all pretty much know who they are

olelion · 2026-11-05T09:13:44-0600

84lion said:
I watched a bit of the Florida-Georgia game yesterday, it sounded like Kirk Herbstreit and whoever the PxP guy is (can't recall the name at the moment). Can't stand Herbie. Glad I didn't care much about the game. Then there was Fox. Whatever the 3:30 game was, the crowd noise was overwhelming my rear surround speakers (funny, not a problem with CBS or ABC so much, hmm) although the announcers were full blast. Only reason I switched on these games is because it was during my daily workout routine.

We switched to Youtube TV last summer, so last year we had BTN and all the sports networks. This spring, we switched our package to the least expensive one and ditched sports. It's been great - I haven't missed it. I do follow the Penn State games and other scores on Yahoo, but that's about it. CFB and Pro football are fading fast in my rear view mirror. Better things to do.

Herbie, although pretty good, needs a cup of STFU once in a while

barry j fenchak · 2026-11-05T09:26:53-0600

olelion said:
Herbie, although pretty good, needs a cup of STFU once in a while

They all do, that is when the mute comes into play.

Don't know who he is paired with but the team with Jesse Palmer doesn't seen to grate on my nerves like many others.

LionJim · 2026-11-05T09:28:53-0600

Navion N8865H said:
Ah, the days of recording games on blank VHS tapes, only to find out the copy (magnetic I assume) degrades over the years. Plus, who has a VHS player anymore.

Gotta love YouTube.

olelion · 2026-11-05T09:29:21-0600

barry j fenchak said:
They all do, that is when the mute comes into play.

Don't know who he is paired with but the team with Jesse Palmer doesn't seen to grate on my nerves like many others.

most do yes, but Herbie stands out a bit

massimoManca II · 2026-11-05T09:31:37-0600

olelion said:
Herbie, although pretty good, needs a cup of STFU once in a while

Over the past seven seasons Herbie has had an intrinsic need to whip out the term “physicality” once every broadcast such that it’s now in the broadcasting lexicon …. Likewise he’s been guilty of mis-using the term “prototypical” for years … I hate him for those reasons as much as his gooey leakage of Alma-mater bias

Midnighter · 2026-11-05T10:29:11-0600

Always thought Joey Galloway was really good but not sure which network he's on (Fox?).

Erial_Lion · 2026-11-05T10:36:37-0600

laKavosiey-st lion said:
There are about 10 or so college announcer seats in the entire country. It amazes me you all discount the guys who score those seats. I’m guessing they worked their asses off to win those spots.

You could also carry it over to referees and coaches. Guys didn't get jobs coaching at the highest level because they don't know what they're doing, but many fans think they are idiots. And the guys refereeing Big Ten football or NFL are the best of the best, yet most think they are terrible.

As @Grant Green likes to point out, male sports culture is a different breed.

Grant Green · 2026-11-05T10:46:01-0600

Erial_Lion said:
You could also carry it over to referees and coaches. Guys didn't get jobs coaching at the highest level because they don't know what they're doing, but many fans think they are idiots. And the guys refereeing Big Ten football or NFL are the best of the best, yet most think they are terrible.

As @Grant Green likes to point out, male sports culture is a different breed.

Nothing more emotional than the male sports fan. And nostalgia is a hell of a an emotion.

NEPA Lion · 2026-11-05T10:56:52-0600

I could never understand the annoyance over announcers, never a big deal if you know the game.
Maybe getting Keith Jackson back in the day meant your team, especially your game was special.
Like game day today, and that's even getting stale.

Ludd · 2026-11-05T10:59:59-0600

There are far more games being broadcast, so you have far more broadcasters. I would say the percentage of good vs bad is about the same, but the actual number of bad ones is higher. I also think there’s a bit of nostalgic remembrance going on with some of these broadcasters from the past.

SleepyLion · 2026-11-05T15:27:41-0600

I think it was Trent Green last week during and NFL game said something like, the offense is trying to get a touchdown here, if not that at least a field goal.

It is that insight that has me wondering how I could get such a job.

Binder74 · 2026-11-05T16:07:50-0600

SleepyLion said:
I think it was Trent Green last week during and NFL game said something like, the offense is trying to get a touchdown here, if not that at least a field goal.

It is that insight that has me wondering how I could get such a job.

You don't know. They could be trying for a safety.

GSPVik · 2026-11-05T18:53:54-0600

The most annoying word of all of them: "physicality". Has anybody ever counted the times the lightweight announcers say this word?

Mile High Lion · 2026-11-05T20:32:56-0600

massimoManca II said:
Over the past seven seasons Herbie has had an intrinsic need to whip out the term “physicality” once every broadcast such that it’s now in the broadcasting lexicon …. Likewise he’s been guilty of mis-using the term “prototypical” for years … I hate him for those reasons as much as his gooey leakage of Alma-mater bias

He's also the first person I heard using the word ask as a noun. "Can quarterback Blah Blah drive for a TD with so little time? That's a big ask." I've since heard two or three other people use ask in the same way. Is it a noun? I don't think so but maybe Herbie is doing it so much he's changing the English language.

BobPSU92 · 2026-11-05T20:46:11-0600

SleepyLion said:
I think it was Trent Green last week during and NFL game said something like, the offense is trying to get a touchdown here, if not that at least a field goal.

It is that insight that has me wondering how I could get such a job.

saturdaysarebetter · 2026-11-05T20:55:48-0600

Navion N8865H said:
Ah, the days of recording games on blank VHS tapes, only to find out the copy (magnetic I assume) degrades over the years. Plus, who has a VHS player anymore.

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