The boosters had less to do with this. I really think it was as simple as what the buyout would do to the rest of the athethic department that is already running massively in red. It would hamstring the entire department for years to come. And there is no guarantee the next coach would be much better or get us beyond a 7-5 ceiling. We're not LSU. We have a small fan base. Spending on RU football is politically unpopular in this state.The boosters are the biggest detriment to Rutgers at this point. They care more about their “relationships” than getting RU on the right track.
It's not "100% on Hobbs." That's stupid. This problem is 80 years in the making with lots of culprits.if you want anyone to blame it's 100% on Hobbs.
You literally have no idea what was going on behind the scenes but keep talking like you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.The boosters had less to do with this. I really think it was as simple as what the buyout would do to the rest of the athethic department that is already running massively in red. It would hamstring the entire department for years to come. And there is no guarantee the next coach would be much better or get us beyond a 7-5 ceiling. We're not LSU. We have a small fan base. Spending on RU football is politically unpopular in this state.
if you want anyone to blame it's 100% on Hobbs.
the best thing for this athletic department is to work down gregs and pikes contracts.
You said for 2 months Greg was gone. I said no.You literally have no idea what was going on behind the scenes but keep talking like you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
And I thought Hobbs didn’t want G.S. back for a second run.It's not "100% on Hobbs." That's stupid. This problem is 80 years in the making with lots of culprits.
You guessed, you literally have no information on what was going on behind the scenes nor any specifics on what was agreed to for him to come back.You said for 2 months Greg was gone. I said no.
Guess who is right.
Read her official statement from today, it repeatedly says Greg didn't meet the standards expected.Schiano is not the problem!
It’s the money! Zinn failed.
Look where we got our transfers from, are you kidding me? We do not have the $$$.
We don’t have the players we need to compete. Fingers crossed, maybe we were saving up NIL for next season.
He didn't.And I thought Hobbs didn’t want G.S. back for a second run.
You're losing an argument to Al.You guessed, you literally have no information on what was going on behind the scenes nor any specifics on what was agreed to for him to come back.
We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.Read her official statement from today, it repeatedly says Greg didn't meet the standards expected.
Greg wasted a lot of money on retaining guys that didn't deliver squat, then botched the DC hiring process again, which left him little interested portal targets when the pickings were good.
“Great coach”…?We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
Or rather, what she agreed to so he’d allow her back. Remember, the money guys forced Schiano on us and we learned this week still want him here.You guessed, you literally have no information on what was going on behind the scenes nor any specifics on what was agreed to for him to come back.
He's a horrible coach. He couldn't even win a watered down BE with the most talent and money.We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
2-7 with a possible 2-10 or 3-9 is competent?We will never ever be successful if we keep focusing on the Coach. Schiano has already proven the he is competent. In my opinion, he is a great coach. That aside, Vince Lombardi can’t win in the B1G without lots and lots of great players. It’s the money $$$$$ and Zinn didn’t get the money.
He definitely did not. But if my memory serves right, wasn't there something in Schiano's contract that mandated an extension after X number of years, or perhaps there was some performance clause? Whatever it was, I seem to remember Hobbs (who was completely incompetent, to be sure, other than his instinct not to hire 2.0 in the first place) having his hands tied when it came to the extension, short of letting him go after two or three years.He didn't.
“Great coach”…?
yikes.
Apparently, my memory is way off on this. Gary signed an extension in 2023 after going 6-6. Imagine going 3-6 in conference and getting extended?He definitely did not. But if my memory serves right, wasn't there something in Schiano's contract that mandated an extension after X number of years, or perhaps there was some performance clause? Whatever it was, I seem to remember Hobbs (who was completely incompetent, to be sure, other than his instinct not to hire 2.0 in the first place) having his hands tied when it came to the extension, short of letting him go after two or three years.
Am I completely imagining this? It seems like someone would remember this if it were correct, so maybe it's my imagination. I'll look it up and see if I can find something to support that recollection.
Schiano is not the problem!
It’s the money! Zinn failed.
Look where we got our transfers from, are you kidding me? We do not have the $$$.
We don’t have the players we need to compete. Fingers crossed, maybe we were saving up NIL for next season.
Schiano will sell 6 wins and a toilet bowl like he won the national championship.Apparently, my memory is way off on this. Gary signed an extension in 2023 after going 6-6. Imagine going 3-6 in conference and getting extended?
You know, I hate the 24-team playoff, but one of its untended consequences will be the dissolution of a bunch of bowl games as "success" comes to be redefined simply as qualifying for the playoff or not. It's speculated that many/most good P4 programs who miss the playoffs will opt out of Weed Eater bowls, leaving them to be filled with G6 and bottom-run P4 teams, which doesn't do much to burnish the reputation of that latter group.
So getting to 6 wins really won't mean anything; certainly not what it has for the last bunch of years, anyway.
We were not state university until 1956.And a small independent before that.It's not "100% on Hobbs." That's stupid. This problem is 80 years in the making with lots of culprits.
Right. Fans and former players pushed for him.He didn't.
Look at that, I asked @scarletbergen a legitimate question and he disappeared.Who should we focus on if not Greg for all these issues that he created?
Look at that, I asked @scarletbergen a legitimate question and he disappeared.
And that’s why RU is as far from P4 big time as it gets.Schiano will sell 6 wins and a toilet bowl like he won the national championship.
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