4A West Round 2 Matchups - Ratings

GrizzlyDevil · 2026-11-09T11:34:10-0600

Now for Round 2 - again, I've taken Massey's ratings and formulated an "Overall Ratings" based off each team's offensive and defensive ratings within Massey's system. These change week to week.

TEAM	OFF OVR	DEF OVR	TEAM OVR
1 Hibriten	98	97	97
16 E Burke	56	74	65

8 Lake Norman Ch	52	65	58
9 RS Central	83	56	70

5 Mount Pleasant	74	85	79
12 Wilkes Central	64	68	66

4 Burns	100	89	94
13 Bunker Hill	82	71	76

3 W Iredell	99	87	93
14 W Stanly	62	64	63

6 W Stokes	85	68	77
11 S Rowan	60	49	55

7 Stuart Cramer	88	100	94
23 Fred T Foard	60	61	61

2 Tuscola	94	89	92
15 Maiden	92	80	86

According to the numbers:
Best bang for your buck matchup: Maiden @ Tuscola
Biggest blowout: Fred T Foard @ Stuart Cramer
Highest rated (average) matchup: Maiden @ Tuscola
Lowest rated (average) matchup: RS Central @ Lake Norman Charter

Good Luck to all teams!

ShinyTurd · 2026-11-09T13:37:06-0600

how does he come up with theses numbers? I can't tell if I'm looking at Madden or what? lol

If this has been discussed before, I apologize

GrizzlyDevil · 2026-11-09T13:49:43-0600

I intentionally made it look like Madden haha. Figured it was way better than a raw spreadsheet with a bunch of random looking numbers.

If anyone wants to know how the sausage is made, I can try to explain it, but some people prefer to just eat.

ShinyTurd · 2026-11-09T14:39:34-0600

I like it! Is it as difficult as the RPI?

GrizzlyDevil · 2026-11-09T17:09:09-0600

ShinyTurd said:
I like it! Is it as difficult as the RPI?

This is like building a porch, RPI is like building a suspension bridge

notanyonesfan1 · 2026-11-09T17:44:28-0600

So by overall rating the top 5 are:

1. Hibriten (97)
2(t). Burns (94)
2(t). Cramer (94)
4. West Iredell (93)
5. Tuscola (92)

ShinyTurd · 2026-11-09T18:59:19-0600

notanyonesfan1 said:
So by overall rating the top 5 are:

1. Hibriten (97)
2(t). Burns (94)
2(t). Cramer (94)
4. West Iredell (93)
5. Tuscola (92)

I asked AI to give me comparisons.

Hibriten (97 OVR) — Georgia Bulldogs
East Burke (65 OVR) — UMass Minutemen
Lake Norman Charter (58 OVR) — Kennesaw State Owls
RS Central (70 OVR) — Oklahoma State Cowboys
Mount Pleasant (79 OVR) — Wisconsin Badgers
Wilkes Central (66 OVR) — Vanderbilt Commodores
Burns (94 OVR) — Ohio State Buckeyes
Bunker Hill (76 OVR) — Arkansas Razorbacks
West Iredell (93 OVR) — Oregon Ducks
West Stanly (63 OVR) — Kent State Golden Flashes
West Stokes (77 OVR) — Tennessee Volunteers
South Rowan (55 OVR) — UTEP Miners
Stuart Cramer (94 OVR) — Iowa Hawkeyes
Fred T. Foard (61 OVR) — Akron Zips
Tuscola (92 OVR) — Texas A&M Aggies
Maiden (86 OVR) — Ole Miss Rebels

The Top Three:

Hibriten: Georgia — The most complete team in the field.

Burns: Ohio State — The offensive juggernaut.

Stuart Cramer: Iowa — The defensive powerhouse.

Captn Skully · 2026-11-10T12:37:25-0600

I dont know if Tuscola is a 92 or not, they look big but maybe a step slow in these highlights.

GrizzlyDevil · 2026-11-10T13:25:01-0600

Captn Skully said:
I dont know if Tuscola is a 92 or not, they look big but maybe a step slow in these highlights.

I imagine those guys have sons currently playing.

Chopper747_2.0 · 2026-11-10T13:58:22-0600

ShinyTurd said:
I asked AI to give me comparisons.

Hibriten (97 OVR) — Georgia Bulldogs

East Burke (65 OVR) — UMass Minutemen

Lake Norman Charter (58 OVR) — Kennesaw State Owls

RS Central (70 OVR) — Oklahoma State Cowboys

Mount Pleasant (79 OVR) — Wisconsin Badgers

Wilkes Central (66 OVR) — Vanderbilt Commodores

Burns (94 OVR) — Ohio State Buckeyes

Bunker Hill (76 OVR) — Arkansas Razorbacks

West Iredell (93 OVR) — Oregon Ducks

West Stanly (63 OVR) — Kent State Golden Flashes

West Stokes (77 OVR) — Tennessee Volunteers

South Rowan (55 OVR) — UTEP Miners

Stuart Cramer (94 OVR) — Iowa Hawkeyes

Fred T. Foard (61 OVR) — Akron Zips

Tuscola (92 OVR) — Texas A&M Aggies

Maiden (86 OVR) — Ole Miss Rebels

The Top Three:

Hibriten: Georgia — The most complete team in the field.

Burns: Ohio State — The offensive juggernaut.

Stuart Cramer: Iowa — The defensive powerhouse.

Hilarious

Chopper747_2.0 · 2026-11-10T14:03:19-0600

Captn Skully said:
I dont know if Tuscola is a 92 or not, they look big but maybe a step slow in these highlights.

I wonder who on here has tried this

Goldendomer10 · 2026-11-10T14:15:09-0600

Chopper747_2.0 said:
I wonder who on here has tried this

I played in one of the Pisgah-Tuscola Alumni games. The one in this clip was at Pisgah, I played in the one at Tuscola.

About 4-5 of the current staff at Pisgah played in the one in the video.

Goldendomer10 · 2026-11-10T14:17:20-0600

GrizzlyDevil said:
I imagine those guys have sons currently playing.

Not many but a few have grandchildren in high school on the Pisgah side. One of the captains that walks out at the first of the video, played on one of Pisgah’s state championship teams in the 70s.

Chopper747_2.0 · 2026-11-10T14:47:19-0600

ShinyTurd said:
I asked AI to give me comparisons.

Hibriten (97 OVR) — Georgia Bulldogs

East Burke (65 OVR) — UMass Minutemen

Lake Norman Charter (58 OVR) — Kennesaw State Owls

RS Central (70 OVR) — Oklahoma State Cowboys

Mount Pleasant (79 OVR) — Wisconsin Badgers

Wilkes Central (66 OVR) — Vanderbilt Commodores

Burns (94 OVR) — Ohio State Buckeyes

Bunker Hill (76 OVR) — Arkansas Razorbacks

West Iredell (93 OVR) — Oregon Ducks

West Stanly (63 OVR) — Kent State Golden Flashes

West Stokes (77 OVR) — Tennessee Volunteers

South Rowan (55 OVR) — UTEP Miners

Stuart Cramer (94 OVR) — Iowa Hawkeyes

Fred T. Foard (61 OVR) — Akron Zips

Tuscola (92 OVR) — Texas A&M Aggies

Maiden (86 OVR) — Ole Miss Rebels

The Top Three:

Hibriten: Georgia — The most complete team in the field.

Burns: Ohio State — The offensive juggernaut.

Stuart Cramer: Iowa — The defensive powerhouse.

AI made Pasquotank Texas

I'll take it

3A seed	High school team	University counterpart
1	Northeastern	Georgia
2	Whiteville	Utah
3	Midway	Notre Dame
4	James Kenan	UCLA
5	Martin County	Miami
6	Eastern Randolph	Indiana
7	Hertford County	Alabama
8	Pasquotank County	Texas
9	Wallace-Rose Hill	Tennessee
10	Farmville Central	Texas Tech
11	Providence Grove	Wake Forest
12	South Columbus	BYU
13	Louisburg	Kentucky
14	Princeton	Houston
15	Northwood	USC
16	Wake Prep	Iowa
17	Greene Central	Boise State
18	Kinston	Oregon
19	Pender	Ole Miss
20	Ayden-Grifton	South Carolina
21	McMichael	Ohio State
22	South Lenoir	Arizona
23	Heide Trask	New Mexico
24	Trinity	LSU

2. West bracket — university counterparts

3A seed	High school team	University counterpart
1	North Stanly	Michigan
2	Shelby	Penn State
3	Hendersonville	Oregon State
4	Walkertown	Clemson
5	Thomasville	Florida State
6	Mount Airy	Auburn
7	CHASE	Oklahoma
8	Lincolnton	Wisconsin
9	Mountain Heritage	SMU
10	West Wilkes	Missouri
11	Union Academy	Duke
12	West Davidson	NC State
13	Owen	Louisville
14	East Surry	Oklahoma State
15	East Rutherford	Liberty
16	North Wilkes	California
17	Pine Lake Prep	Virginia Tech
18	West Lincoln	Syracuse
19	Wheatmore	Pittsburgh
20	Polk County	Boston College
21	East Davidson	Stanford
22	Patton	Minnesota
23	Draughn	Rutgers
24	Bessemer City	Florida

Lincolnton · 2026-11-10T15:10:27-0600

Goldendomer10 said:
Not many but a few have grandchildren in high school on the Pisgah side. One of the captains that walks out at the first of the video, played on one of Pisgah’s state championship teams in the 70s.

Can remember trying to pick up playoff games on an old AM/FM, cracker box, tube type radio in 1976. After not being able to get anything inside my house I went out to my car and was able to pick up Pisgah and Northwest Cabarrus.

NWC had Larry Rucker as a running back and Pisgah had David Singleton. Can’t recall the score but Pisgah won. Remember, it was raining here.

The Bears would go on to repeat as state champions by defeating Clinton. The score was 28- to either 12 or 13. Hard to believe that’s been half a century ago.

Kingbluedevil · 2026-11-10T15:18:45-0600

Seeing the college teams mentioned Oregon blew out Ohio State last week and freshman Kendre Harrison got some air time in little scuffle in 4th quarter.

beamer24 · 2026-11-10T17:04:42-0600

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Goldendomer10 · 2026-11-10T18:34:43-0600

Lincolnton said:
Can remember trying to pick up playoff games on an old AM/FM, cracker box, tube type radio in 1976. After not being able to get anything inside my house I went out to my car and was able to pick up Pisgah and Northwest Cabarrus.

NWC had Larry Rucker as a running back and Pisgah had David Singleton. Can’t recall the score but Pisgah won. Remember, it was raining here.

The Bears would go on to repeat as state champions by defeating Clinton. The score was 28- to either 12 or 13. Hard to believe that’s been half a century ago.

You, sir, have an exceptional memory to pull up names from that far back on teams with little, to no, association with you. I hope the younger folks in your area get to glean from your memory and storytelling ability and realize the gift that it is.

amaidendevil · 2026-11-10T19:00:18-0600

Goldendomer10 said:
You, sir, have an exceptional memory to pull up names from that far back on teams with little, to no, association with you. I hope the younger folks in your area get to glean from your memory and storytelling ability and realize the gift that it is.

Sometimes

and sometimes it spins into endless dribble that makes us consider calling the nursing home

seriously we love @Lincolnton you couldn't find a better man

Goldendomer10 · 2026-11-10T19:26:57-0600

amaidendevil said:
Sometimes and sometimes it spins into endless dribble that makes us consider calling the nursing home seriously we love @Lincolnton you couldn't find a better man

And you’re the friend from his North that was placed in his life to keep him humble…

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