Maybe I’d file this in a different part of my brain if it were OSU doing it but man, using religion as a means to skirt NCAA eligibility rules is disgusting. It’s one thing if it were a Ladd Holman LDS thing… but it is not. Poor look for Cael imo
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Maybe I’d file this in a different part of my brain if it were OSU doing it but man, using religion as a means to skirt NCAA eligibility rules is disgusting. It’s one thing if it were a Ladd Holman LDS thing… but it is not. Poor look for Cael imo
lol, and they have the audacity to say OSU didn’t follow rules for RTC with regards to Jax. This is more blatant. Watch PSU fans say those two guys always been more religious. Cole and Connor will both take 2 years and the other will wrestle that year.
On the other hand, looks like anyone can go for religious trip. Who should we send from our side?
On the other hand, looks like anyone can go for religious trip. Who should we send from our side?
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If kids are looking into the military maybe the Wcap can be used. But under it's current structure it wouldn't work for most
This is specifically following the rule. There is a big difference between not following a rule you do not like and following a rule you do not like.
Yep and I knew the minute I read the rule exactly what would happen. It was a rule that never needed to be used to extend eligibility .But now that RS and medicals are gone anyone who knows how wrestling works knew exactly what was about to happen and who would do it first.
No one is naive here. How many years has Cael coached at PSU? Out of these years, with all the religous talks at PSU, how many guys went to a non-LDS mission? suddenly when there is a 5 on 5 rule, PSU discovers about Christian mission. lol how convenient ? PSU fans can glaze all his hypocrisy with rule book, we wont.
I know a few people in Oklahoma that need Jesus.
Almost as convenient as you waiting for 5 for 5 to start stumping for the Mormon church?
I’m pretty sure it is a 3yr commitment that is non-deployable.
The only thing is I don’t think they can compete NCAA at all.
I’m not directing this at wrestleknownothing but the amount of coping PSU fans do is crazy sometimes. This move is absolutely legal, it’s just off putting. Gamesmanship can be off putting at times for fans of other programs (beating the RTC distance ‘rule’, getting Doucet a medical come to mind on our end)… this seems objectively gross in my subjective opinion. Using a religious mission that’s motivated primarily as gamesmanship is the issue. If there wasn’t a roster need for this to happen, it wouldn’t and that’s the off putting part. I wish the PSU fans would simply acknowledge that, then flip us off and I’d be good
Does it all matter? Lets say someone gets injured (Like Henkel this offseason) and not able to compete. In 5 for 5, there are no medical RS. They can just say they now are going for a mission. Like Henkel is doing right now. On the other hand, someone who is non-religious cant really use that excuse. This policy is open for scams and Cael is the first one to pull it off.
I'm sure if DT did something similar first, other boards will be talking the same way about DT.
I'm now waiting for a 5* football player to do this so we will see the ramifications soon.
I'm sure if DT did something similar first, other boards will be talking the same way about DT.
I'm now waiting for a 5* football player to do this so we will see the ramifications soon.
They cannot be enrolled in school or practice with the team per NCAA rules while on mission.
12.6.8.1 Circumstances in Which a Service Exception Does Not Apply. A service exception does not apply to a regular academic term in which a student-athlete attends class as a full-time student, participates in preseason practice preceding a regular academic term or participates in practice on or after the first day of classes.
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RTC practices aren't "team" and they already dropped classes. I know a wealthy family in AZ and their sons Mormon mission was local and he lived at home. So not everyone goes to Zimbabwe or other countries far away. I'm also not saying the mission is Mormon.
Most people are aware Henckel broke his arm and Cole isn't beating his brother. Smart use of the rule no one is saying it's cheating but in all the years prior to medicals Penn St hasn't had anyone leave the team for a mission. So let's not act like these guys all the sudden decided I need to go do the lords work. It's a religious RS
So they have to drop out of school and walk away from the team for at least a year? And figure out how to do enough service work to legitimize the "mission" story? All for the hope that a spot might open up for them in the next few years? Seems like a lot of trouble when they could just transfer to almost any other school and wrestle and make NIL money immediately.
Cael's ability to manipulate kids remains unmatched.
Matt Brown did.
Anyone who has done charity work knows that you do not need to leave the country to do mission work.
This makes me think of Cael’s press conference after NCAAs where he made vague accusations, something to the effect of “we can sleep easy at night knowing we follow the rules, there’s not a lot of that happening right now”.
So yeah, this recent stunt doesn’t seem to be technically violating any rules, but it does highlight how disingenuous his holier-than-thou schtick is.
So yeah, this recent stunt doesn’t seem to be technically violating any rules, but it does highlight how disingenuous his holier-than-thou schtick is.
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People can say what they want. Is it legal and are they following a rule? Yes, but we know the log jams at psu. Weird that LL or Messinbrink or Barr didnt hear the call of the Lord. 
I’m an ordained minister and I’m developing a mission called Grappling for Gospel.
It involves teaching kids about Jesus and then showing some Wrestling. Also, it’s got a prison ministry aspect where they go in with co-founder of GfG to jails (he’s a prison preacher, but mainly county stuff) and discuss Jesus. Afterwards, they’ll show the guards some grappling tricks while they talk about Jesus.
It involves teaching kids about Jesus and then showing some Wrestling. Also, it’s got a prison ministry aspect where they go in with co-founder of GfG to jails (he’s a prison preacher, but mainly county stuff) and discuss Jesus. Afterwards, they’ll show the guards some grappling tricks while they talk about Jesus.
I have absolutely no problem with Mission trips and However wrestlers or anyone want to put God in their life I think it is a great thing. I do not attribute their desire for this as instigated by Cael. I do have a big problem with the latest NCAA rules regarding eligibility. I want wrestlers to have five years to get four years of wrestling, not five years of wrestling.
Yeah, I think the old format could’ve been amended to be beneficial.
Im completely against using God to take advantage of the rules. Of course, God could be using the new rules to spread his Kingdom!?
Yeah, I think the old format could’ve been amended to be beneficial.
Im completely against using God to take advantage of the rules. Of course, God could be using the new rules to spread his Kingdom!
It was supposed to be Connor, but since he won the wrestle off now Cole goes. Loser needs to find god at PSU lol.
My unsolicited 2 cents is that yeah it’s technically within the rules, and so let them do whatever they’re gonna do since it’s allowed. But also let’s not kid ourselves about what’s actually going on and why it’s happening. Especially if their respective mission trips happen to be taking place in State College.
Alas. What can ya do besides wonder if the coaches try and close the loophole next offseason and rib any of your PSU fan friends?
Alas. What can ya do besides wonder if the coaches try and close the loophole next offseason and rib any of your PSU fan friends?
It is a two-edged sword. They just lost two very valuable back ups in case of injury to a starter in a sport where everyone is injured at some point. The gain comes years down the line.
Are you sure? The John Smith worshipper may have them rethink their faith?
Good point!
But I seriously doubt the timing of enrolling and the spring semester, combined with a “lack of desire” for mission work would thwart a spring enrollment.
It may be that we should have Jordyn go on a mission or Jaidyn after a wrestle off for 141.
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