“Religious Mission”

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Once AGAIN, we have a failure to communicate!! Am I questioning their faith? OR am I questioning their NEWLY formed faith in the COCKROACH krailure!?!?!?!?

ahhhhhhh exactly , and you?????? I pointed out the BULL and ANYONE who follows IOWA wrestling could tell you in a millisecond that the kid was religious!!!! You can point out plenty, BO BASSETTE comes to mind for example.

You being a F*** st luver because they cheated and won( you were never one before!!!!!) You can obviously/ certainly point us to ALL these "great men of faith" ( the lying POS krailures words) that you have seen!!!

come on man!!!!

YES!!!! TY the SCUMBAG lying POS should be removed from coaching!!!!

uhhhh what????? "its legal" yea so was paying out $600K in "camp expenses"!?!?!? I mean you run camps and instead of making money, you pay money!!!!!! YEP nothing to see here!!!! Move right along!!!!

I mean I have seen this many times, dozens of times, hundreds even........ oh wait a minute......... NO I haven't , not even ONCE have I seen kids in skool who SUDDENLY leave to go on a mission!!!! I have seen Mormons who commit BEFORE skool etc.....

PLEASE point out OTHER F*** st wrestlers who have done this????? NOT Mormon by the way, also enrolled in skool for years!!!! I will help you out, how about any wrestlers from any team???? I will wait LMAO PATHETIC bunch of LOSERS you bandwagon clowns are!!!!!
Dusty Hone started college and wrestled 2 years then took a Mormon mission. He was done at Oklahoma st 9 years after he graduated HS. He got 2 medicals took a RS and a 2 year mission.
 
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I’m not going to start. What are my options?

1. lose a year of eligibility in the practice room
2. Transfer
3. Enter the military
4. Get pregnant
5. Do a mission for my church

They picked #5. More power to them. We’ll just be sure to have them reach out to Ironbird next time to “show/talk” about their religious beliefs beforehand.
If medicals were available do you think Henckel would be on a mission? It's ok that they're using the rules to their advantage and everyone should. But it's also ok to say yes they're using the rules to get an extra year . Because that's exactly why is happening
 

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So prove it, where is your proof of their motives behind this?
Well they were all registered and in school. So this wasn't some calling. It's all happened fast. Some thought Henckel would get a medical RS but since those aren't available the mission medical is. Everyone should be doing it I will give it to Cael he's not afraid to use a rule regardless of what people will say.
 

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Dusty Hone started college and wrestled 2 years then took a Mormon mission. He was done at Oklahoma st 9 years after he graduated HS. He got 2 medicals took a RS and a 2 year mission.
Thanks for the response! KEY here is a MORMON mission!!!! Also when was this?
 

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Thanks for the response! KEY here is a MORMON mission!!!! Also when was this?
2014 HS grad. The rule has always stated official religious missions. These are mission RS do some feel its scummy sure but it's within the rules. 78 other D1 coaches should be looking to use the rules to their advantage. Now the gap is wider for others. This isn't a 250 mile rule thing like at Oklahoma st where they were breaking a rule that was rumored to be changing. This is a rule and it's being used. Peoples opinions are like a**holes everyone has them. This helps Penn st wrestling down the line. I saw this coming and posted about it the day the rules were released on June 23. Cael took advantage of the rule while others didn't
 
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You think these young men are doing that? Pretty bold statement. Did it occur to you that they may actually be fine young men honoring their calling to serve God? So many athletes proclaim their faith. If its not your deal, you have the right to not believe. To insinuate these men are lying about their faith, that's pretty scummy.
100% they're using this as a loophole to gain another year. They can still be kids of faith, doesn't change the fact they're taking advantage of a rule.
 

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With Davis, I'm hearing Cael is experimenting with the penal system and how it pertains to NCAA rules.

I'm still shocked Braeden is down with it all to be honest. These damn kids will do anything for that man...
I'm hearing you bend over for him multiple times a week.
I'm still shocked you are down with it.
Damn, a shitbag like you will do anything for Carl.
The johnstowntoetoucher
 
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If medicals were available do you think Henckel would be on a mission? It's ok that they're using the rules to their advantage and everyone should. But it's also ok to say yes they're using the rules to get an extra year . Because that's exactly why is happening

Do you think that is all the Iowa fans on here want? As a PSU fan, I'll definitely say that the timing of the mission is absolutely due to the fact that they aren't going to be in the lineup and it saves them a year of eligibility, It would be silly to think otherwise. However, there are rules that they need to follow for this mission, and the fact that they are timing it in a way to help their wrestling career does not make me question their religion.
 

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You think these young men are doing that? Pretty bold statement. Did it occur to you that they may actually be fine young men honoring their calling to serve God? So many athletes proclaim their faith. If its not your deal, you have the right to not believe. To insinuate these men are lying about their faith, that's pretty scummy.
“Their calling to serve god”. Your head is so far in the sand, it’s unbelievable.
 

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100% they're using this as a loophole to gain another year. They can still be kids of faith, doesn't change the fact they're taking advantage of a rule.
Yes, the two things are not mutually exclusive. The mission, Davis's dismissal, and the announcement of the result of the Ono-Desmond wrestle off all came within days. Pretty clearly, PSU just had their wrestle offs. If Cole and Henckel lost their wrestle offs and were facing a year as backups, it's possible they decided to take a year off from wrestling instead and do something good for the world during that year and not lose a year of eligibility in the process. Everything doesn't have to be done cynically. It's possible that they genuinely decided that the best thing they could do with a year out of the lineup is serve their church and their faith, and not that Cael simply told them they need to hide out on a mission somewhere to preserve eligibility and that they are only doing it to skirt the rules and not to genuinely serve their faith.
 

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It's a search engine just like Google AI. I never knew about an exemption for missionary work prior to this incident because I never paid attention to it.

But it seems we have a bunch of sore loser experts here who will assume the worst motives for people who want to do this?
Im aware. Id just like to see A1 vs. Msu in a heated debate.
 

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Joe please stop being a casual.
Please learn a little critical thinking. It's a logical fallacy to assume motive for someone and it's a big part of cognitive therapy challenging your automatic thought assumptions. Here's an assumption, no one from Iowa would give a crap about their missions if PSU was not at the top of the heap. Who do think think is more accurate?
 
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Everyone in a positive mood for the start of the season? This board is already in "Friday morning of NCAAs" level of anger. Life is easier and more enjoyable when you spend less time blaming and being resentful and spiteful.
Yep, guess they want to get an early start.
 

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Everyone in a positive mood for the start of the season? This board is already in "Friday morning of NCAAs" level of anger. Life is easier and more enjoyable when you spend less time blaming and being resentful and spiteful.

Grateful for Carl scheduling Duke for a dual.
 

mcpat

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If medicals were available do you think Henckel would be on a mission? It's ok that they're using the rules to their advantage and everyone should. But it's also ok to say yes they're using the rules to get an extra year . Because that's exactly why is happening
Literally the post you responded to said they were doing it to not lose a year of eligibility while not starting. 🤷‍♂️
 

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You think these young men are doing that? Pretty bold statement. Did it occur to you that they may actually be fine young men honoring their calling to serve God? So many athletes proclaim their faith. If its not your deal, you have the right to not believe. To insinuate these men are lying about their faith, that's pretty scummy.
Geezuz Dude. I got 3 words for you: Read The Room.
 

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Do you think that is all the Iowa fans on here want? As a PSU fan, I'll definitely say that the timing of the mission is absolutely due to the fact that they aren't going to be in the lineup and it saves them a year of eligibility, It would be silly to think otherwise. However, there are rules that they need to follow for this mission, and the fact that they are timing it in a way to help their wrestling career does not make me question their religion.
I'm not questioning their religion, at all. I hope they understand the commitment they just made, and the skepticism that comes with it due to their athletic ability and certain NCAA eligibility (cough, cough) "rules". To say that wasn't a HUGE part of the conversation I think would be EXTREMELY naive, regardless of your fandom. (they can accept my apologies in advance if they are joined by thousands of the "non-distinguished" Penn State student body members, whose eligibility is only a matter of their parents pocketbooks)

This all comes back to Carl, fits his M.O. to a tee (the trail starts with Bobby Douglas and Andrew Long, follow the crumbs from there, but give yourself plenty of time).

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it's a duck. Quack, quack. 🦆
 

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There is a somewhat recent interview with Messenbrink where he indicates he was waiting on what happens with Haines if he would wrestle this season. From that you can comfortable tell had Haines been eligible that Mitchell would have been the 3rd guy to go on a mission.

Somebody can look it up, its pretty clear looking back that's what he was saying. Doesn't really matter now.

I am just happy Cael is able to exploit religion for his own personal gains inside his cult. The pre requisite to being a Nittany Lyin' moving forward- must be a member in a church with a 1 year mission program available.
 

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One has to wonder if Cael has a specific church in Happy Valley that will feed him the paperwork or if each kid truly has his own church from back home? The new feeder system.

Cody, this guy lost wrestle offs- print off the docs and have the pastor sign here, here & here. Cael call the parents and make them understand.

Basically this is the NCAA wrestling equivalent of calling to HR and sending a DR's note you are now suddenly mentally unwell and suicidal to obtain short term disability and get out of work

Sometimes its often true but other times its just BS but the important thing is how dare you question it!
 
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IRON HAWK

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2014 HS grad. The rule has always stated official religious missions. These are mission RS do some feel its scummy sure but it's within the rules. 78 other D1 coaches should be looking to use the rules to their advantage. Now the gap is wider for others. This isn't a 250 mile rule thing like at Oklahoma st where they were breaking a rule that was rumored to be changing. This is a rule and it's being used. Peoples opinions are like a**holes everyone has them. This helps Penn st wrestling down the line. I saw this coming and posted about it the day the rules were released on June 23. Cael took advantage of the rule while others didn't
I get what you are saying about the rule. Question is ,is krailure once again breaking the rule as he has with every other rule??? I have seen no indication that either of these wrestlers are very religious? So IF the reality is, they are skating the rules once again, the POS should be removed!!!

Also, "good for POS F*** st" does not mean good for college wrestling!!! Due to the fact that they obviously have no oversight, and a bag of FatMoneyMans dough. They are able to pay people off!!! Someone has to front the bills, kids picking up and changing course, in what appears to be mid-season, can not be cheap!?!?!?!?

and worse is, these kids could be wrestling for other teams!!! I would like to know what flavor of Cool-Aid these MORONS over their are drinking????
 

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Do you think that is all the Iowa fans on here want? As a PSU fan, I'll definitely say that the timing of the mission is absolutely due to the fact that they aren't going to be in the lineup and it saves them a year of eligibility, It would be silly to think otherwise. However, there are rules that they need to follow for this mission, and the fact that they are timing it in a way to help their wrestling career does not make me question their religion.
I don't think anyone is saying they think they started going to church yesterday . It's a rule use it but if a medical RS was available I believe Henckel would use it instead of a mission. That's my opinion and that's not saying he's not religious not every religious person does a mission
 

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Please learn a little critical thinking. It's a logical fallacy to assume motive for someone and it's a big part of cognitive therapy challenging your automatic thought assumptions. Here's an assumption, no one from Iowa would give a crap about their missions if PSU was not at the top of the heap. Who do think think is more accurate?
You assumed they were going on a Mormon mission 🤷 keep assuming. I like facts🤷
 

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I get what you are saying about the rule. Question is ,is krailure once again breaking the rule as he has with every other rule??? I have seen no indication that either of these wrestlers are very religious? So IF the reality is, they are skating the rules once again, the POS should be removed!!!

Also, "good for POS F*** st" does not mean good for college wrestling!!! Due to the fact that they obviously have no oversight, and a bag of FatMoneyMans dough. They are able to pay people off!!! Someone has to front the bills, kids picking up and changing course, in what appears to be mid-season, can not be cheap!?!?!?!?

and worse is, these kids could be wrestling for other teams!!! I would like to know what flavor of Cool-Aid these MORONS over their are drinking????
I want to take back everything I said. Now that I know ironhawk does not know about their spiritual lives I realize the error of my ways.
 

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There is a somewhat recent interview with Messenbrink where he indicates he was waiting on what happens with Haines if he would wrestle this season. From that you can comfortable tell had Haines been eligible that Mitchell would have been the 3rd guy to go on a mission.

Somebody can look it up, its pretty clear looking back that's what he was saying. Doesn't really matter now.

I am just happy Cael is able to exploit religion for his own personal gains inside his cult. The pre requisite to being a Nittany Lyin' moving forward- must be a member in a church with a 1 year mission program available.
Spot on, They would had no other move if Levi did come back with PJ not being able to make 57 anynmore. If PJ could of still made it, they just would of gave kasak the shaft. Just like them pretty much making James take a grey shirt when he didnt want to. (If anyone doubts this, reach out to someone close to james and see what his feelings were on the matter)
 
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Corby2

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I get what you are saying about the rule. Question is ,is krailure once again breaking the rule as he has with every other rule??? I have seen no indication that either of these wrestlers are very religious? So IF the reality is, they are skating the rules once again, the POS should be removed!!!

Also, "good for POS F*** st" does not mean good for college wrestling!!! Due to the fact that they obviously have no oversight, and a bag of FatMoneyMans dough. They are able to pay people off!!! Someone has to front the bills, kids picking up and changing course, in what appears to be mid-season, can not be cheap!?!?!?!?

and worse is, these kids could be wrestling for other teams!!! I would like to know what flavor of Cool-Aid these MORONS over their are drinking????
Churches have paperwork they need to fill out with the obligations and everything and the NCAA looks it over. No one is cheating it's a rule. Some may not like how the rule is being used but it's a rule. Guys qualify for Olympic Redshirts through the process and don't try for the team people don't like it but it's a rule.
 

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Now do the rest of our non-conference schedule and do yours!!
If you want to we can. Your argument here is solely based on OK St coming to Carver. If your SoS is anchored by a 30-6 loss to the pokes...ok I will give you that. The rest of the non conference schedule is very comparable. Maybe I just want to hear you all say how good UNI and Iowa St are...

Iowa: PSU:
Iowa St. Lehigh
Pitt. Oklahoma
UNI. WVU
OK St. Oregon State
No Col
Binghampton
Soldier Salute Black Knight
 

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Now do the rest of our non-conference schedule and do yours!!
If you want to we can. Your argument here is solely based on OK St coming to Carver. If your SoS is anchored by a 30-3 loss to the pokes...ok I will give you that. The rest of the non conference schedule is very comparable. Maybe I just want to hear you all say how good UNI and Iowa St are...

Iowa: PSU:
Iowa St. Lehigh
Pitt. OK
UNI. WVU
OK St. Or St
Sold Sal. Black knight

Add on No Col., Duke and Binghamton, you can mock the competition but it is 3 more matches they are wrestling, it is their job to grow the sport right?
 
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