How does reading the room apply here? Why would others’ opinions affect ours?
“Religious Mission”
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You’re like the 7th PSU poster post AI slop and not one of the posts were witty or funny. Be better.
I've seen and met both sorts, and I don't buy that a profession of faith is the same as self-righteousness, but I can see how they can be confused by nonreligious people. I do buy that it's not unique to PSU, but they certainly have mastered it. Faith is not why they win. Top talent, excellent coaching, and abundant resources are why they are winning.
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Yeah, we should have spent this time hitting Minnysoda instead. Next time . . .
“**** the sport, as long as I get my trophy at the end of the year” -Carl
Have they mastered it, or is there a selection bias? Because they keep winning individual titles they keep getting interviewed mat-side at the tournament, and they keep professing their faith on national TV. But I seem to recall that it was happening with just about every winner, if not every winner. But I confess my memory is limited in this regard.
I do wonder what paperwork and what requirements are to be met. Then how hard will the NCAA really pry here.
If a requirement is they cannot receive NIL money during this time period- how does one monitor if a friend of the program suddenly makes a donation to that church. And even if you can how say that donation is illegal?
If Cael uses the same church every time- how do you call that illegal? Therefore I believe there should be some sort of seasoning required with the church. If its the kids been a member of the same since forever fine. But just becoming a member of the Happy Valley church that's running the scheme out for Cael, not so much
To me a the kid in question should announce the intention prior to the school year- not be enrolled until the coach sees how the lineup will sake out right up until the first meet.
I agree with you this was just a matter of time. Water is wet duh. Cael also isn't doing anything technically legal and likely never will. Its a win win for Cael as long as he is careful on email, texts or putting anything in writing. Because if and when the NCAA could investigate a certain case Cael wont be the fall guy nor can an NCAA really bring in outside law on a church.
It will likely be the kid and kid alone who take the brunt of it and ends up losing that year or maybe even if severe, all eligibility. I would caution the PSU parents or any parent at any university on who ultimately losses if something is not right. Pretty easy for the coach who set it all up to claim, Whoa that's between the church and the kid. But I hope Cael messes up on a text where he unknowingly leveraged a parent.
Still amazing that something unethical can be legal but Nelson Brands lost a year over a $10 bet on the Chicago Bears like he was insider trading. I expect the NCAA to tighten down the rules on this but it will be exploited pretty good in the meantime.
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The church gives all the information and obligations and dates to the University compliance office who then forwards it to the NCAA
So in otherwards a large donation to a certain church could ensure the proper paperwork.
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IF you know this???? Then lets see the paper work???? Now before you say something about it being private. Lets just see the BLANK paper work you are talking about. Then we can go from there OK?
This should be GREAT!!!! Can't wait!!!! What "church" has this paper work? What religion is it? What mission, where, who is paying?????
I believe an entirely new thread should be started once we have this PAPER WORK!
You’re an idiot. No one is going to have access to the paperwork.
Go work for PSU compliance if you want to see it. You’re being weird.
Aweful lot of speculation in this thread. It's obvious Cael is running a faith based team. Listen to his wrestlers speak, it's not a new thing.
Btw, seems to be working pretty well for all of them.
Btw, seems to be working pretty well for all of them.
Pry implies a lack of certainty... so you don't really know for sure either... got it.
PSU had the highest RPI of any team last year. Do you understand what that means?
Probably similar reasons as to why Brands refused to wrestle UNI
You need an official mission or call letter from the church stating what the mission is the date it will start and end . That goes to University compliance. It's not some paperwork with questions to answer. That happens when the athlete returns. They just want to make sure you didn't enroll in another institution or compete in organized sports while you were gone. It's the same process the NCAA has always used for missions. This isn't a new process
this thread is what I imagine a thread would be on a OSU or ISU message board if they existed between 1988-1998.
Recruit better and and it wouldnt exist here right now.
Recruit better and and it wouldnt exist here right now.
Mormons are Christian. You can’t be serious. You realize that there have been Mormons represent the University of Iowa and have served two year missions. It’s not a scam, and it’s hard to come back from taking two years off. It took Luke Lofthouse a full year to fully get back in shape.
Are you aware of any non-Mormons who took a one year mission trip mid college career? I don’t have anywhere close to the exposure to the sport you have, so curious if this is more common than some would have thought. I agree with you it is within the rules as presented. Thanks
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