(rev) HOW DOMINANT WILL PSU'S 2027 TEAM BE?

How many shutouts will PSU have in 2027?


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lionlover

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PSU's 2026 team had an elite "8" shutouts. This team has been lauded as PSU's best team ever by some.

So, I am curious as to what you guys think...
 
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Joejitsu

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is there a greater measuring stick than AA and NCs?
I think barring injury. We have 10 AA and somewhere between 3 and 5 NC with a possibility of more
(Luke, Ono, Blaze, SVN, Kasak, PJ, Mitch, Rocco, Barr) could all be NC
Not to leave Connor out but ... realistically we should have a minimum of 6 or 7 finalists.

IDK about shutouts... not even sure about the point margin at NCAAs but if we have
10 AA, 6 finalists and 4 champions. Is that the most dominant team ever?
 

Wrestleknownothing

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A run down of all the teams PSU faces would make this easier.. the amount of shutouts also depends on the teams faced.
Home
11/12/2026​
Bloomsburg
Away
11/15/2026​
Oklahoma
Away
12/6/2026​
Lehigh
Home
12/13/2026​
West Virginia
Away
12/20/2026​
Oregon State
Away
12/20/2026​
Duke
Away
12/20/2026​
Binghamton
Away
1/9/2027​
Rutgers
Home
1/15/2027​
Michigan
Home
1/17/2027​
Maryland
Away
1/22/2027​
Michigan State
Home
1/24/2027​
Wisconsin
Away
1/29/2027​
Minnesota
Home
2/5/2027​
Iowa
Away
2/12/2027​
Ohio State
Home
2/19/2027​
Northern Colorado
 
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I'd look at it has who on the dual schedule can win a match.
Bloom: nada
Oklahoma: nope
Lehigh: Stanich and Taylor
WVU: uh-uh
Beavers: nothin
Duke: none
Binghamton: zero
Rutger: nothing
Michigan: nope
Maryland:zip
Sparty: Noooo!
Wiscy: none
Gophers: McEnelly?
Iowa: Crookham, Ferrari on his knees, Kooter
tOSU: Davino and Feldman
No. Co.: hell no

So of the 16 duals, 12 looks like the number barring upsets or injuries.
 

lionlover

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is there a greater measuring stick than AA and NCs?
I think barring injury. We have 10 AA and somewhere between 3 and 5 NC with a possibility of more
(Luke, Ono, Blaze, SVN, Kasak, PJ, Mitch, Rocco, Barr) could all be NC
Not to leave Connor out but ... realistically we should have a minimum of 6 or 7 finalists.

IDK about shutouts... not even sure about the point margin at NCAAs but if we have
10 AA, 6 finalists and 4 champions. Is that the most dominant team ever?
I don't dispute that. But, there are many metrics to determine dominance in a lot of areas. This poll is measuring dominance relative to not allowing a team to score against you. So, feel free to make your own poll(s) of interest.
 

lionlover

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I'd look at it has who on the dual schedule can win a match.
Bloom: nada
Oklahoma: nope
Lehigh: Stanich and Taylor
WVU: uh-uh
Beavers: nothin
Duke: none
Binghamton: zero
Rutger: nothing
Michigan: nope
Maryland:zip
Sparty: Noooo!
Wiscy: none
Gophers: McEnelly?
Iowa: Crookham, Ferrari on his knees, Kooter
tOSU: Davino and Feldman
No. Co.: hell no

So of the 16 duals, 12 looks like the number barring upsets or injuries.
That's sound logic. But...as @Wrestleknownothing said, "The real wildcard is who takes the mat for PSU on any given match day."
 

Kiddagger311

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I'd look at it has who on the dual schedule can win a match.
Bloom: nada
Oklahoma: nope
Lehigh: Stanich and Taylor
WVU: uh-uh
Beavers: nothin
Duke: none
Binghamton: zero
Rutger: nothing
Michigan: nope
Maryland:zip
Sparty: Noooo!
Wiscy: none
Gophers: McEnelly?
Iowa: Crookham, Ferrari on his knees, Kooter
tOSU: Davino and Feldman
No. Co.: hell no

So of the 16 duals, 12 looks like the number barring upsets or injuries.
I’d guess 11, RU’s Knox has a non zero chance against LL as he’s beaten LL at who’s Number 1 before and w Elite freshmans u never really know how good they might be yet. We will get a better picture of Knox after national duals.

Other team is Michigan. Between Catrabone and Mantanoa there’s a non zero chance of an upset. Especially when Rocco wrestles close could drop one. I’ll hedge and guess PSU gets 11 shutouts .
 
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That's sound logic. But...as @Wrestleknownothing said, "The real wildcard is who takes the mat for PSU on any given match day."
Coach Cael isn't in the habit of sitting guys is he? Las year PJ skipped an early dual coming off Worlds, Blaze is expected to do the same. Barr missed the early season due to injury. Right now, it sounds like everyone is healthy and there are solid backups at most weights.

"Wildcards" taking the mat sounds like a Tom Ryan thing. Or Oklahoma and Wyoming in Rec Hall.
 

Dogwelder

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Rutger would probably shut them out.
Maybe this one:


 
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Wrestleknownothing

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that has not been Cael's MO, and I doubt 5for5 changes that. But I guess we will see.
Sometimes it has been his MO. PJ Duke and Mitchell Mesenbrink wrestled 14 of 15 duals last year. Or maybe they had a sick day. And sometimes it is due to injuries either to themselves (Barr) or the starter in front of them (Davis) sometimes they wrestle fewer.
 
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Nitlion1986

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Sometimes it has been his MO. PJ Duke and Mitchell Mesenbrink wrestled 14 of 15 duals last year. Or maybe they had a sick day. And sometimes it is due to injuries either to themselves (Barr) or the starter in front of them (Davis) sometimes they wrestle fewer.
I good rule of thumb is at PSU starters start. The exception is that something is going on.

Brooks had a bytch of a weight cut. Someone is a little banged up, or there is a bug running through the team. Maybe something like a kid is coming off an extensive period of international competition and takes a break.
The weight is unsettled. There might be a discipline issue.

It is very rare for a starter to take a seat to give the backup a match.
 
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Wrestleknownothing

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I good rule of thumb is at PSU starters start. The exception is that something is going on.

Brooks had a bytch of a weight cut. Someone is a little banged up, or there is a bug running through the team. Maybe something like a kid is coming off an extensive period of international competition and takes a break.
The weight is unsettled. There might be a discipline issue.

It is very rare for a starter to take a seat to give the backup a match.
Yes, my point was that when guessing the number of shutouts, whatever you think it should be based on the starting lineup, you should fade that number to reflect that the starting lineup does not start all the time. It was a statement of fact rather than judgement.
 
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