Let's face it. Ace Bailey was extremely raw when he played here and one dimensional. Gurdak is a much more complete player and will be much more valuable than Ace was to us
Gurdak is much more complete than Ace
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congrats, dumbest post of the year
Why are we comparing a freshman wing to our transfer center?
I've also noticed Lino Mark is much better at driving past defenders than Shaq Doorson
Just pointing out to people who got on Pike for not producing with 2 NBA first rounders how hard it is to win without rebounding and defense. Ace was certainly a great athletic specimen but he was not a good rebounder and defender. If we had Gurdak on that team we probably would've been a really good team. This is not an indictment to Ace just a compliment to how Gurdsk is a really good complete player.
If we had Keli Zinn then instead of Hobbs, we likely advance deep into tournament
Ace was the top rebounder and defender on that Rutgers team..they were bad because ace and Dylan were the only players. Ace was that teams big man..
the fact that they aren’t the same position is only the start of how this comparison is weird
Gurdack is a very skilled (but athletically limited) smallish 5 whereas Ace is an athletic FREAK wing (who had great skills for his age as a wing - not as a 5)
they almost couldnt be more different
Gurdack is a very skilled (but athletically limited) smallish 5 whereas Ace is an athletic FREAK wing (who had great skills for his age as a wing - not as a 5)
they almost couldnt be more different
Agree! Ogbole was a disaster. I am really impressed with how good Gurdak is. He has great hands, can pass, defend, rebound and shoot. Probably the best portal pickup ever here
I think he couldn't find the right words to say that this years team is depending on experienced players. While ace and Dylan were freshmen expected to lead a team of d3 caliber players..
This post is ridiculous.
Dylan Grant cracked the starting line up on that Rutgers team - as a frosh. That’s how bad the surrounding cast was.
Here’s the perspective. Currently, Dylan Grant is averaging 12.8 minutes of playing time on a 2-2 Charlotte roster AS A JUNIOR. There are 8 players averaging more minutes that Grant right now on that Charlotte roster. We’re talking about a Charlotte team that just lost at home to Appalachian State.
Dylan Grant cracked the starting line up on that Rutgers team - as a frosh. That’s how bad the surrounding cast was.
Here’s the perspective. Currently, Dylan Grant is averaging 12.8 minutes of playing time on a 2-2 Charlotte roster AS A JUNIOR. There are 8 players averaging more minutes that Grant right now on that Charlotte roster. We’re talking about a Charlotte team that just lost at home to Appalachian State.
maybe
but his post was limited to directly comparing the two players, saying zero about the teams they were on so….
It was also factually inaccurate - saying ace was one dimensional (implying no defense or rebounding) which is revisionist history. Just not true
While ace may have not been the best defender or rebounder he was not completely lacking in that regard and, in fact, it could very well be argued that ace was a better rebounder and defender at his position than Gurdack is at his position (as gurdack is hardly a top notch defender or rebounder)
so frankly I still have absolutely no idea what the point of the OP was.
Gurdack is great but considering that he is NOT a top notch defender or rebounder even his premise of him being a “better all around player” than ace is, frankly, just totally wrong
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wtf is this thread and why am I in it lol
Not sure why people bag on Ace. He was a top 5 talent in the country who decided to forge his own path and commit to a non-blue blood. He led that team in rebounding and blocks as a wing. Sure you can question the defensive intensity at times but he was the lone offensive hub on that team for long stretches (especially when Dylan was out).
Also a weird comparison because I’m not even sure Gurdak is a good defender. His post-defense has been average against 3 300+ Kenpom teams. Obviously a great addition and certainly would’ve been a big plus to have on that Ace / Dylan ‘24 team, but the basis for this comparison is non-sensical
You take your meds yesterday?
I think I get a point somewhere in your dopey comparison. Yes. Having an effective offensive spoke in the middle of the offense is great.
Hopefully you took a nap after posting.
GO RU
I can’t take posts like this seriously. Just because the surrounding cast on the Ace/Dylan team was not B1G quality and forced those to do way more than any two players should have been asked, does not mean they weren’t unbelievably good. Ace could take over a game at any moment. He could score from anywhere on the court. And in case you forgot, here you go. For some context, Harper didn’t play in this game and he still put up 39 despite the defense being locked in on him. Please tell me you thing Gurdak is a more complete player after watching this lol
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