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*****NOV 14 Other Games Thread, esp those impacting #15 IOWA's CFP Chances (UNDERDOGS: #6 Texas; #12 Texas Tech; #13 Wake Forest; #18 USC)*****

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#15 IOWA has a chance to rise 3 (or 4?) spots in the next CFP rankings after today's games.

Why I say that:

--> #14 Houston (now 7-3) went down Friday night, 42-32, at Colorado.

--> UNDERDOGS TODAY: #6 Texas (7-2); #12 Texas Tech (8-1); #13 Wake Forest (8-1); #18 USC (7-2).

--> #8 Tennessee (7-2) is just a 1.5 point favorite over Texas A&M.

--> #11 Kentucky (7-2) is just a 3 point favorite over Florida.

--> We also want Washington (5-4) & Minnesota (5-4) to win today, so that they remain above .500. Michigan (5-4) somehow pulling off the upset at Oregon would be ideal, as well.

Today's Important Games:

#7 Miami (8-1) hosts Duke (7-2)
Miami favored by 14
11:00 am CT, ABC

#13 Wake Forest (8-1) at SMU (7-2)
SMU favored by 1.5
11:00 am CT, ESPN

#20 Ohio State (6-3) hosts Northwestern (6-3)
OSU favored by 14
11:00 am CT, FOX

#3 Alabama (7-2) at Vanderbilt (4-5)
Alabama favored by 14
11:45 am CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#8 Tennessee (7-2) at Texas A&M (4-5)
Tennessee favored by 1.5
2:00 pm CT, ESPN

#22 Missouri (6-3) at #1 Georgia (8-1)
Georgia favored by 16.5
2:30 pm CT, ABC

#18 USC (7-2) at #9 Indiana (8-1)
Indiana favored by 9.5
2:30 pm CT, CBS

#16 Oregon (6-3) hosts Michigan (5-4)
Oregon favored by 10.5
2:30 pm CT, FS1

..........................................................................

Washington (5-4) at Michigan State (3-6)
Washington favored by 2.5
4:30 pm CT, BTN

#11 Kentucky (7-2) hosts Florida (5-4)
Kentucky favored by 3
5:15 pm CT, ESPN

..........................................................................

#10 BYU (7-2) hosts Baylor (6-3)
BYU favored by 8.5
6:00 pm CT, FOX

Minnesota (5-4) at Penn State (5-4)
Penn State favored by 11.5
6:00 pm CT, FS1

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC

#15 IOWA (7-2) hosts Purdue (3-6)
IOWA favored by 17.5
6:30 pm CT, NBC

#17 South Carolina (6-3) at Arkansas (3-6)
South Carolina favored by 7.5
6:45 pm CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#12 Texas Tech (8-1) at #25 Oklahoma State (6-3)
Oklahoma State favored by 3.5
8:30 pm CT, ESPN

#2 Utah (9-0) at #23 Arizona (7-2)
Utah favored by 1.5
9:30 pm CT, FOX
 
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Go SMU!!!

#13 Wake Forest (8-1) at SMU (7-2)
SMU favored by 1.5
11:00 am CT, ESPN
 
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Franisdaman said:
#15 IOWA has a chance to rise 3 (or 4?) spots in the next CFP rankings after today's games.

Why I say that:

--> #14 Houston (now 7-3) went down Friday night, 42-32, at Colorado.

--> UNDERDOGS TODAY: #6 Texas (7-2); #12 Texas Tech (8-1); #13 Wake Forest (8-1); #18 USC (7-2).

--> #8 Tennessee (7-2) is just a 1.5 point favorite over Texas A&M.

--> #11 Kentucky (7-2) is just a 3 point favorite over Florida.

--> We also want Washington (5-4) & Minnesota (5-4) to win today, so that they remain above .500. Michigan (5-4) somehow pulling off the upset at Oregon would be ideal, as well.

Today's Important Games:

#7 Miami (8-1) hosts Duke (7-2)
Miami favored by 14
11:00 am CT, ABC

#13 Wake Forest (8-1) at SMU (7-2)
SMU favored by 1.5
11:00 am CT, ESPN

#20 Ohio State (6-3) hosts Northwestern (6-3)
OSU favored by 14
11:00 am CT, FOX

#3 Alabama (7-2) at Vanderbilt (4-5)
Alabama favored by 14
11:45 am CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#8 Tennessee (7-2) at Texas A&M (4-5)
Tennessee favored by 1.5
2:00 pm CT, ESPN

#22 Missouri (6-3) at #1 Georgia (8-1)
Georgia favored by 16.5
2:30 pm CT, ABC

#18 USC (7-2) at #9 Indiana (8-1)
Indiana favored by 9.5
2:30 pm CT, CBS

#16 Oregon (6-3) hosts Michigan (5-4)
Oregon favored by 10.5
2:30 pm CT, FS1

..........................................................................

Washington (5-4) at Michigan State (3-6)
Washington favored by 2.5
4:30 pm CT, BTN

#11 Kentucky (7-2) hosts Florida (5-4)
Kentucky favored by 3
5:15 pm CT, ESPN

..........................................................................

#10 BYU (7-2) hosts Baylor (6-3)
BYU favored by 8.5
6:00 pm CT, FOX

Minnesota (5-4) at Penn State (5-4)
Penn State favored by 11.5
6:00 pm CT, FS1

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC

#15 IOWA (7-2) hosts Purdue (3-6)
IOWA favored by 17.5
6:30 pm CT, NBC

#17 South Carolina (6-3) at Arkansas (3-6)
South Carolina favored by 7.5
6:45 pm CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#12 Texas Tech (8-1) at #25 Oklahoma State (6-3)
Oklahoma State favored by 3.5
8:30 pm CT, ESPN

#2 Utah (9-0) at #23 Arizona (7-2)
Utah favored by 1.5
9:30 pm CT, FOX
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Lot of potentially very good losses in the SEC today, the kind you can really build a strong argument with.
 
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Franisdaman said:
#15 IOWA has a chance to rise 3 (or 4?) spots in the next CFP rankings after today's games.

Why I say that:

--> #14 Houston (now 7-3) went down Friday night, 42-32, at Colorado.

--> UNDERDOGS TODAY: #6 Texas (7-2); #12 Texas Tech (8-1); #13 Wake Forest (8-1); #18 USC (7-2).

--> #8 Tennessee (7-2) is just a 1.5 point favorite over Texas A&M.

--> #11 Kentucky (7-2) is just a 3 point favorite over Florida.

--> We also want Washington (5-4) & Minnesota (5-4) to win today, so that they remain above .500. Michigan (5-4) somehow pulling off the upset at Oregon would be ideal, as well.

Today's Important Games:

#7 Miami (8-1) hosts Duke (7-2)
Miami favored by 14
11:00 am CT, ABC

#13 Wake Forest (8-1) at SMU (7-2)
SMU favored by 1.5
11:00 am CT, ESPN

#20 Ohio State (6-3) hosts Northwestern (6-3)
OSU favored by 14
11:00 am CT, FOX

#3 Alabama (7-2) at Vanderbilt (4-5)
Alabama favored by 14
11:45 am CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#8 Tennessee (7-2) at Texas A&M (4-5)
Tennessee favored by 1.5
2:00 pm CT, ESPN

#22 Missouri (6-3) at #1 Georgia (8-1)
Georgia favored by 16.5
2:30 pm CT, ABC

#18 USC (7-2) at #9 Indiana (8-1)
Indiana favored by 9.5
2:30 pm CT, CBS

#16 Oregon (6-3) hosts Michigan (5-4)
Oregon favored by 10.5
2:30 pm CT, FS1

..........................................................................

Washington (5-4) at Michigan State (3-6)
Washington favored by 2.5
4:30 pm CT, BTN

#11 Kentucky (7-2) hosts Florida (5-4)
Kentucky favored by 3
5:15 pm CT, ESPN

..........................................................................

#10 BYU (7-2) hosts Baylor (6-3)
BYU favored by 8.5
6:00 pm CT, FOX

Minnesota (5-4) at Penn State (5-4)
Penn State favored by 11.5
6:00 pm CT, FS1

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC

#15 IOWA (7-2) hosts Purdue (3-6)
IOWA favored by 17.5
6:30 pm CT, NBC

#17 South Carolina (6-3) at Arkansas (3-6)
South Carolina favored by 7.5
6:45 pm CT, SEC Network

..........................................................................

#12 Texas Tech (8-1) at #25 Oklahoma State (6-3)
Oklahoma State favored by 3.5
8:30 pm CT, ESPN

#2 Utah (9-0) at #23 Arizona (7-2)
Utah favored by 1.5
9:30 pm CT, FOX
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Okie State, LSU, SMU all home favorites and wins that would really help us. Kentucky and Tennessee on the road as slim favorites. With Houston going down, even 2 of these 5 coming though in our favor probably moves us up another 3 slots…….but…….take care of business at home Hawks!
 
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Jonesy5960 said:
Lot of potentially very good losses in the SEC today, the kind you can really build a strong argument with.
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I have said it before. Ranking 2 loss Texas and 2 loss Alabama so high so early has set both up to make the CFP with up to 3 losses.

How do we get rid of the obvious bias? Go back to the BCS computer to rank the Top 25? Or, will what is input be biased, too?
 
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RuggieC said:
Okie State, LSU, SMU all home favorites and wins that would really help us. Kentucky and Tennessee on the road as slim favorites. With Houston going down, even 2 of these 5 coming though in our favor probably moves us up another 3 slots…….but…….take care of business at home Hawks!
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There could be some really interesting chaos today.

How far would Texas drop of they lost on the road today?

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC
 
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I'm wary of 3 loss SEC teams. So I actually want anything close to Iowa with 3 losses to become 4 - like LSU. The committee as shown they are not afraid to shift things around quite a bit, so anything below Iowa with 3 losses won't necessarily stay there - if one gets a quality win, while Iowa beats a bad team - Purdue. And Oregon, Ohio State also picking up a 4th loss to solidify Iowa as the 3rd B1G option, assuming USC loses to Indiana as well.
 
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Franisdaman said:
I have said it before. Ranking 2 loss Texas and 2 loss Alabama so high so early has set both up to make the CFP with up to 3 losses.

How do we get rid of the obvious bias? Go back to the BCS computer to rank the Top 25? Or, will what is input be biased, too?
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A computer has no ability to reason and think freely. Just programming and consequently can be programmed with biases although it would be easier to check that than with a human.
 
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MacMiney said:
I'm wary of 3 loss SEC teams. So I actually want anything close to Iowa with 3 losses to become 4 - like LSU. The committee as shown they are not afraid to shift things around quite a bit, so anything below Iowa with 3 losses won't necessarily stay there - if one gets a quality win, while Iowa beats a bad team - Purdue. And Oregon, Ohio State also picking up a 4th loss to solidify Iowa as the 3rd B1G option, assuming USC loses to Indiana as well.
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You are right. The Committee is unpredictable from week to week. Oregon jumped 7 spots (from 23 to 16) after beating Ohio State last week. Who's to say #16 Oregon won't jump us this week if they win big and we don't?

If #18 USC wins at Indiana, USC could jump us, too.

#16 Oregon (6-3) hosts Michigan (5-4)
Oregon favored by 10.5
2:30 pm CT, FS1

#18 USC (7-2) at #9 Indiana (8-1)
Indiana favored by 9.5
2:30 pm CT, CBS

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC
 
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Texas appears to be in regardless of winning or losing today, so as a fan you would prefer they win and get rid of LSU. SMU/Okie St/A&M are the three games I have the most hope in for additional poll spots. I didn't think Colorado would pull the upset last night so Iowa is already sitting one spot higher than I thought they would be before Saturday even kicks off. If things go Iowa's way they may be the last team in with 2 games to go. I'll make sure our kids yell extra loud tonight from the north endzone to ensure a Hawk victory.

(Oh and Michigan deciding they know how to play football would be great as well)
 
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MacMiney said:
I'm wary of 3 loss SEC teams. So I actually want anything close to Iowa with 3 losses to become 4 - like LSU. The committee as shown they are not afraid to shift things around quite a bit, so anything below Iowa with 3 losses won't necessarily stay there - if one gets a quality win, while Iowa beats a bad team - Purdue. And Oregon, Ohio State also picking up a 4th loss to solidify Iowa as the 3rd B1G option, assuming USC loses to Indiana as well.
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Agree.
 
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Franisdaman said:
I have said it before. Ranking 2 loss Texas and 2 loss Alabama so high so early has set both up to make the CFP with up to 3 losses.

How do we get rid of the obvious bias? Go back to the BCS computer to rank the Top 25? Or, will what is input be biased, too?
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Yes, as I've said, it's always been true and always will be true of computers: Garbage In, Garbage Out (GIGO). Maybe, somehow, use an unbiased / objective version of AI to determine the CFP field. But, as noted, that's trickier than it sounds.
 
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Franisdaman said:
There could be some really interesting chaos today.

How far would Texas drop of they lost on the road today?

#6 Texas (7-2) at #21 LSU (6-3)
LSU favored by 4.5
6:30 pm CT, ABC
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Drop? LOL Texas would move up a spot. After all, they are Texas. What happens on the field is a mere footnote to their greatness.
 
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Burghawk87 said:
Texas appears to be in regardless of winning or losing today, so as a fan you would prefer they win and get rid of LSU.
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Good point.


Burghawk87 said:
SMU/Okie St/A&M are the three games I have the most hope in for additional poll spots.
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Hoping for a crazy a$$ day of upsets. :) Except for IOWA, of course.

Burghawk87 said:
I didn't think Colorado would pull the upset last night so Iowa is already sitting one spot higher than I thought they would be before Saturday even kicks off. If things go Iowa's way they may be the last team in with 2 games to go.
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I just hope a team doesn't steal a spot by winning their CCG. Example: Duke won the ACC CCG last year and missed the playoff. This year? Conference champs are automatic bids.

Burghawk87 said:
I'll make sure our kids yell extra loud tonight from the north endzone to ensure a Hawk victory.
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Is there a bad seat in the North End zone? It really is a shame that the South Endzone does not look like it....
 
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DukeSlater said:
Yes, as I've said, it's always been true and always will be true of computers: Garbage In, Garbage Out (GIGO). Maybe, somehow, use an unbiased / objective version of AI to determine the CFP field. But, as noted, that's trickier than it sounds.
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The simulated BCS Top 25 (calculated by BCSKnowHow for Week 11 of the 2026 season) blends the AP Poll, Coaches Poll, and computer averages into a single score on a 0.000 to 1.000 scale.

Full Simulated BCS Top 25 (Week 11, 2026)

RankTeamBCS ScoreChange from Week 10
1Georgia0.9694+1
2Utah0.9326+1
3Notre Dame0.8868+3
4UCLA0.8524+1
5Miami (Fla.)0.8257-4
6Alabama0.7878+3
7Indiana0.7785-3
8Texas0.7404+2
9Tennessee0.6373+7
10Texas Tech0.5753+5
11Wake Forest0.5415+3
12BYU0.5291-4
13Kentucky0.5083-6
14USC0.4024+3
15Houston0.3907+3
16Iowa0.3803+4
17Ole Miss0.3330-5
18Oregon0.3278+7
19Boise State0.2845+2
20Ohio State0.2805-9
21LSU0.2506-8
22South Carolina0.1968+2
23Arizona0.1759New
24New Mexico0.1109New
25Missouri0.0844-6
 
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If Iowa wins out Iowa gets in with all the Teams in the top 20 playing each other , Just win, Especially with Houston already going down
 
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HawkBot said:
A computer has no ability to reason and think freely. Just programming and consequently can be programmed with biases although it would be easier to check that than with a human.
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Correct. If I as the programmer believes that one conference is superior to all others, or if I set it up to utilize recruiting rankings in the analysis, then certain programs come into each season with inherent advantages.
 
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Franisdaman said:
Good point.




Hoping for a crazy a$$ day of upsets. :) Except for IOWA, of course.



I just hope a team doesn't steal a spot by winning their CCG. Example: Duke won the ACC CCG last year and missed the playoff. This year? Conference champs are automatic bids.



Is there a bad seat in the North End zone? It really is a shame that the South Endzone does not look like it....
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Give $80 million and I am sure the South would look like the north.
 
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Ridiculous. They literally just showed that he made the 27 and talked about him making the 27 and then mark at the 26 lol. And of course they don’t get it. So rigged
 
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Thanks a lot, SMU.
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