St. Francis vs. Cary-Grove

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How many kids play both sides of the ball for SF?
On OL they normally have 4 kids that really only play OL and rotate their big soph OT on the DL throughout the game. I fully expect him to play a little more on D this week. They also have gotten their lone SR OL a little time on D as the season has progressed, coming off ACL last year they eased him in on D. They have a few WRs that play in the secondary but they also rotate kids through DB and WR. Their best D player plays a S/LB type position. He gets some snaps as an H-back/TE in certain sets but not a ton of O play. This is nothing new, they have been playing kids both ways for years and do a good job of rotating, especially on the lines, kids in and out. It is hard to toss a number out since they rotate kids in and out but getting healthy later in the year has helped that. But they also will change up their D schemes at times. I expect they most likely come out in a 4-4, been playing a 4-3 a lot but probably swap a safety for another LB.

I will say C-G hasn't played a team with the speed and depth at WR position like SF has this year. In all honesty there are only a handful of teams in the state that are better or can match it. SF will run the ball if C-G cheats on the pass, SF RB is healthy and has been really good in playoffs.
 
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Assignment football. Brutal. A lot is on the defensive tackles and Inside backers. CG runs inside veer, outside veer, midline, counter and inside toss and an outside toss. Inside veer and midline the dt is the read. If the dt doesn’t squeeze your Inside backer is going to have a guard at a full sprint blocking him so you’re looking at 4-5 yards. If the dt squeezes and tackles the fb then the qb keeps it. No one can cheat. If your dt isn’t tackling the fb then your linebacker starts to cheat and next thing you know the qb keeps it and is gone for a td.

Every player on the defensive side has to do their job. If one guy starts cheating it’s over. CG doesn’t have the athletes that st Francis has but they are disciplined and well coached. The perfect example of them at their best is the east side games when cg beat them. CG was able to have 19 play drives and even though they didn’t match up well man for man they kept the east side offense off the field.

When I say CG is well coached, I mean they might have one of the best staffs in the state. Watch their early season games and see their progress to now. They have really really good high school football players that they make even better as the season goes on.

This will be one of the better quarterfinal games.
Perfectly stated
 

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Midline is determined with reading the 0 through 3 technique.

IV read is the technique touching the play side OT, typically. Also referred to as EMOL (end man on line). Not a LB, who (depending on defensive alignment) is the force player (could also be the S). The force player is identified by the QB as the defender who you attack to put into conflict. It’s the second option progression. QB pitches or keeps when reading the force players’ decision, which comes fast. And the QB is exposed to significant contact.

I’ve seen past Carmel Catholic QB’s maintain alignment with the A back (pre-snap motion wing) and pitch 10+ yds. downfield. Dangerous yes, but repped enough a thing of beauty.
 
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Quick Math. 12 mins is 720 seconds. Divide that by 40 sec play clock, that is 18 attempts. If they have a 11 or 12 play drive, that is the entire quarter.

I know it seem like I am CG fan but, reality is after seeing them, I have tremendous respect for what they do and it is not as simply as being undisciplined like some suggest. They put a lot into the game plan that include much more than just running the option. They want to keep your offense off the field. They are very content with 3 yards a play and using 30 plus second per play. Won't be in a rush at all.
What CG did to EStL was ball control perfection... These Trojans are young and hungry and have the ability to control the ball on any team!
 
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What CG did to EStL was ball control perfection... These Trojans are young and hungry and have the ability to control the ball on any team!
What they did in '21 and '23 was a masterclass, no doubt about it. But the year is 2026 and those kids are graduated from college or upperclassmen in college now. I know the system hasn't changed but '21 and '23 really do not have any baring on this game.
 
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What they did in '21 and '23 was a masterclass, no doubt about it. But the year is 2026 and those kids are graduated from college or upperclassmen in college now. I know the system hasn't changed but '21 and '23 really do not have any baring on this game.
Well... The offensive philosophy is the same... The players are different... If CG can play discipline they will roll... IF!
 

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Is Cary-Grove the school that takes in the kids living on the river? If so, lots of swingers will be at this game! Wear pineapple apparel with caution.
 

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Yeesh. SF can't stop the run. Toss to the outside for CG. SF had 2 guys outside vs 4 blockers for CG. I'm not sure what SF is doing defensively.
 

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21-14. SF methodical drive down the field. Interesting that CG has had the short drives and quick scores and SF has had the long drives.
 

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Looks like CG punched it in again 34-14 at halftime. SF just didn’t come to play, turned the ball over multiple times in the half and couldn’t stop the run. Credit to CG. Brutal half for Franny.
 
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Well I admit I was wrong. The mid size CCL teams are kinda disappointing to be honest.
Well... I think people think the RPO is awesome and it really isn't... When playing running teams RPO teams have problems... When playing good running teams RPO teams gets stalled... I will always go for the good running teams... Especially at home!!!
 
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SF with the win 28-16
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