Just hard to swallow the complete mediocrity of this program
1-4 now after a 5-0 start….is that elite?
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James is gonna get some things cleaned up for next week…..Again
I like Franklin as a man. He has good values and says all the right things. But this staff under him is the General Motors of college football. They consistently do less with more and they have a deserved reputation for it in coaching circles.
The untimely gaffes are consistent and so is the lack of clutch play without a generational talent
Younger players consistently out play upper class men, which points to systematic development failures.
This staff consistently fails to beat evenly-matched opponents and routinely loses to 1-2 over matched opponents due to failures in scheme and game prep.
This isn’t going to suddenly change under James’ leadership. He’s 8 years in. He is what he is. We better hope he finds a few more Saquons and can just our talent teams for a stretch.
The untimely gaffes are consistent and so is the lack of clutch play without a generational talent
Younger players consistently out play upper class men, which points to systematic development failures.
This staff consistently fails to beat evenly-matched opponents and routinely loses to 1-2 over matched opponents due to failures in scheme and game prep.
This isn’t going to suddenly change under James’ leadership. He’s 8 years in. He is what he is. We better hope he finds a few more Saquons and can just our talent teams for a stretch.
He issued that challenge to himself and has failed miserably at meeting it. Why would he use the term again when he’s running full speed in the other direction?
Loss to Illinois
No depth at QB
Loss to Illinois
Loss to Iowa
Loss to Illinois
No running game
Loss to Illinois
Loss to tOSU
Loss to Illinois
OL gets Clifford killed
Loss to Illinois
Loss to Michigan
Had enuf?
No depth at QB
Loss to Illinois
Loss to Iowa
Loss to Illinois
No running game
Loss to Illinois
Loss to tOSU
Loss to Illinois
OL gets Clifford killed
Loss to Illinois
Loss to Michigan
Had enuf?
What do we have to do now to make a NY6 bowl? Can someone spell that out for me?
Buy a ticket would be my guess
Buy a ticket would be my guess
Here's a thought....what do 3 of our best defensive players have in common? They are all transfers. Brisker from jc, AK and Tangelo portal transfers. I have contended that Franklin does not develop players. These 3 obviously were already coached up prior to transferring in.
It was the dumbest statement ever made by a Penn State football coach. He owns it. It will be on his tombstone
I am relieved to the point taking each Saturday's game as a comedy show. I feel that gives me healthier perspective.
Brisker has improved a lot since he got here.
AK and Tangelo have done more for their draft prospects here than they did at their previous homes.
5th year guys play well. Hmm. Strange concept.
Agreed. If one coach deserves a little credit, it's our defensive secondary coach.
Goodness though, we can't build an OL for squat though.
No. I didn’t say either was lousy. Brisker supports my lack of player development point. He transferred in. Mustipher is a real bright spot. His injury was unfortunate and again underlines the lack of player development at DT.
Agreed. I believe one the issues with that is I don't believe the OL and OC are on the same page. If I hired an OC, I would let him bring in, if possible, his OL coach.
James is going to SAY he is gonna get some things cleaned up for next week.
The problem is that we will see the same mistakes next week, and the week after, and……..
With 3 left, it can't hurt. Tengwall. Christ. Anybody on the chart at RT. Give em a shot.
Maybe. Definitely couldn't hurt compared to what we have done.
to be fair, this team is not close to the team that best Wisky and Auburn early. The team was always very good, and with every body ready to play at full strength it is an excellent team. the loss of PJ was always a concern, and has shown. The DEF plays with determination but is not the same as with PJ. We have no similar player. anyone can see that Clifford is not the same since before the injury. he never was back 100% and now looks to be pretty beat up again. how many RBs do we have a full strength - not sure any are. this team is very beat up and the schedule was always going to present that risk.
IF we could have opened with every player on the roster available and at 100%, on that day we would have beaten OSU in Columbus. Imagine Isaac, Beamon, PJ all there at full strength. Wormley at OG. All the RBs at true 100% - Cain equal to the guy of 2019, etc. That PSU team beats OSU.
The team was never is in a position to have some of the injuries we have had. Even today, Ellies got hurt and left - when he returned you could see something was wrong. Even the guys playing are hurt. Injures and lost players may be part of the game and it has hurt PSU more than most teams (i.e. Levis would allow Clifford to be hurt and leave game but now we have nobody to backup SC).
This is why the SEC schedules patsies at the end of the season.
To quote a student walking out of the stadium this afternoon…..”well Franklin was successful this week, now he has 6 days to figure out how he is going to F up the Rutgers game.”
Not a good sign…that means he is likely not as good as what we trot out there…scary thought…
never thought i would say this, but what is full strength for a psu running back? also, the injuries...does the volume of them imply issue with our strength training program?
IF ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas!
Yesterday Wisconsin won their sixth straight game to go 7-3. They are in position to win the B1G West.
Auburn dropped their game to Miss. St. yesterday, to go to 6-4, same record as Penn State. Auburn and PSU will probably both wind up 7-5.
Put Wisconsin down to schedule (B1G West)? Maybe, but Wisconsin won over Illinois and Iowa, which Penn State didn't do. Both PSU and Wisc lost to Michigan.
Auburn - schedule too, maybe, they lost to Georgia and TAMU, and as noted, lost to MSU yesterday.
Wisconsin - trending up
Auburn - trending down
Penn State - trending down
It should also be noted that UM also beat Nebraska at Lincoln by a mere FG. So, does that make PSU a similar-strength team to 3-7 Nebraska?
What's the answer? Don't know, there are a lot of variables...but I feel pretty confident in predicting that Auburn will make a HC change before PSU does!
The truth is that this cannot be very surprising. We all knew after Villanova that unless PSU found a running game fast there was trouble on the horizon. With that said there still is no excuse for the Illinois loss.
pure speculation on my part, but we MAY have changed some things in S&C during COVID. I have no proof, but I heard Saban say they modified some things in their S&C and he was not happy.
Completely agree. We are stuck with him and mediocrity until the impasse is broken where he is canned or they simply let his contract expire or he completes a "good" 9-3 season and gets a HC gig somewhere. I don't think any contract extensions are happening for him with this piss poor product he shovels out so eventually he will be gone. In the meantime we can dream about 6-6 to possibly 9-3 and if all the stars align a 10-2 season thrown in there. I just hope the powers that be are not so stupid that if he does manage a 10-2 season with obligatory loss to O$U and then take your pick....scUM, MSU, Iowa, Wisky or some other random crap B10 West team (ya know it's coming) that he does not get some ridiculous contact extension. We have seen the future withe good ole James and it is mediocre, uninspired football. As you say, getting less out of talent than pretty much any other program.
Uninspired and soft…the writing is on the wall. The Lettermen are embarrassed by both.
