1-Seed??

chov1125

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it sounds crazy I know but here me out. I start by saying this, if you think UNC still deserves a 1-seed, how did we not bump them out last night? About a month ago I mentioned how putting our resumes side by side would lead one to believe that Duke actually had the better resume, not UNC. It wasn't a big deal back then as there were still plenty of games to be played. Well now it's up for debate. Do I think UNC is worthy of a 1-seed, yes. Therefore I must make a case for Duke leap frogging them with a win tonight.

Regular season champ vs ACC tournament champ: on one hand the regular season champ is made up of a season worth of games and not just one weekend. Some would say it's a better indicator of cream rising to the top. On the other hand look at the unbalanced schedules with having such a large conference. Duke had to play every single top ACC team on the road this year. We had our struggles but we also came away with very impressive wins, see Notre Dame and Virginia. Additionally the ACC tournament is all played on a neutral court as is the NCAA tournament and it's a win and move on lose and go home style as is the NCAA tournament. I would argue that in the very least it's a tie

Overall Record: if Duke wins tonight they finish the regular season 27-8. With the loss last night UNC finished at 27-7. A half game difference.

Good Wins/Bad Losses: obviously the Nc St loss sticks out like a sore thumb. But look at our overall body of work and look at our wins. @ND @virginia FSU UNC Florida Mich St even Rhode Island and then tournament wins against Louisville UNC and Nd. You take a look at UNC's resume which is compiled of beating people up on their home court and you can't honestly say that their resume matches up with ours.

So there you have it. Similar overall records, equal amount of championships whether regular season or conference tournament and a resume comparison where ours stacks up much better than theirs IMO. It sounds crazy I know, but if you argue that UNC is still a 1-seed I would argue that we are playing tonight to leap frog them.
 

K-oach Q

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Yeah logically it seems like a possibility...I'm not sure if we win today how you can make a case for UNC and not us with only one loss separating us and our schedule much much tougher than the road they had to go...

Also we went 2-1 against the Heels...

Could you imagine the ***** fest if the committee gave us a 1 Seed..Lol
 
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Dahntay#1

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I see no reason UNC should be a #1 seed over us if we win today. For some reason, I think they will get the #1 seed though. Makes no sense to me.
 

K-oach Q

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If you just put resumes up side by side blind...no way you would choose UNC over us...no way...

But we have to win today...or it doesn't matter.....
 

WI#1Dukie22

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Win today and it might just happen. The committee looks at the numbers and the eye test. IF it's between Duke and UNC I think we get it
 

dukiejay

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We're not getting a one seed, and shouldn't. I'm not sure UNC should get one either, but I think they will.

Here's how I see things playing out....the winner of the PAC-12 stays west and gets the two with Gonzaga, that means UNC on the one line. The Heels will be the first one seed ever without a single win on the road or at a neutral site over a top-30 RPI team. They're 0-6.

The bottom line for us is that we still didn't have a great regular season. A really bad loss at home and a 3-6 mark in conference road games. That doesn't scream #1 seed to me. Does UNC's resume scream #1 seed? No, probably not. But I'm not sure there's a team out there who does...and I'm sure Oregon would prefer to stay home as the two.

We win tonight and we're probably the #2 in Villanova or Kansas's region. I'm fine with that.
 

Redickulous4

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I'll need someone to explain it to me if they think they deserve a 1 seed. Their best wins were at home. They suck away from home, bottom line.
 

Testkid

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We're not getting a one seed, and shouldn't. I'm not sure UNC should get one either, but I think they will.

Here's how I see things playing out....the winner of the PAC-12 stays west and gets the two with Gonzaga, that means UNC on the one line. The Heels will be the first one seed ever without a single win on the road or at a neutral site over a top-30 RPI team. They're 0-6.

The bottom line for us is that we still didn't have a great regular season. A really bad loss at home and a 3-6 mark in conference road games. That doesn't scream #1 seed to me. Does UNC's resume scream #1 seed? No, probably not. But I'm not sure there's a team out there who does...and I'm sure Oregon would prefer to stay home as the two.

We win tonight and we're probably the #2 in Villanova or Kansas's region. I'm fine with that.
Would prefer the 1 in the east. I don't want to play kansas in Kansas city
 
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dbav

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I don't think there is a chance we get a 1 seed.

However, I would love to see it happen after we win tonight. Can you imagine how many hater heads would explode? It would be glorious.
 
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Duke It Out

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If Duke finishes off NC State, they are a one seed. If they would've finished off Cuse, they would've been a one seed.

It's going to be tough at this point. Win or lose today I think they get a two seed.
 

germantondevil

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Duke also played the toughest road schedule in the conference and the holes were priveledged to a very soft conference road schedule and anti Duke Bilas made that statement.
 
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hart2chesson

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Oh and I forgot we won the head to head matchup 2-1

Chov you nailed it on that 2 to 1 head to head- that should speak volumes.....Also keep in mind going back to their game at UVA, UNC has LOST 2 of their last 4 games- both losses by double digits....This thing can be broken down so many ways other than by UNC mouthpiece Joe ESPN Linardi....

OFC
 

denverexpat

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2 in the east right now. Think we stay there.

Just looked at the bracketology....i liked us in the #3 with Gonzaga vs the #2 with Villanova....just think that is a tougher match up if we get to that point....Gonzaga region looks pretty weak if that is what it turns out to be....a #1 would be nice but cant see that happening despite using logic!
 

Mac9192

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Tar Holes should be a 2, If Duke wins tonight a 2 in south, Kansas should be 1 but not in Midwest
 

OldasdirtDevil

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Just think a week ago many were thinking Duke would be a 4 or 5 seed. I'm pretty pleased to see where we're sitting. We get a 2 seed if we win tonight, and might still have a chance at it (hey, Duke gets all the breaks) even if we lose.

OFC
 
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jcdevilfan

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I believe I heard Lunardi say that if Duke wins to ACCT Championship, they would probably be the #2 seed in the East, putting them in the bracket with Nova. Keep in mind, that's if we win.
Carolina will probably be in the South Region, but my personal feeling is they will be a #2 seed also (?). I say this because I think the PAC 12 winner (Oregon-Arizona) will be the #1 seed in the South. Just my honest opinion, not cut in stone.
That leaves Gonzaga #1 in the West, with Kansas #1 in the Midwest. Duke, in my opinion, has no shot at a #1 seed, but that's ok, nobody said it was going to be easy! ;)
Go Duke!
OFC
 

hpnole

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I don't think UNC deserves a 1 seed either. But, I would not bet against them getting one. What I really , along with a lot of others, wonder when the NCAA is going to punish them for 18 years of cheating? Last BB season it was going to be after the NCAA tourney. Well , here we are a year later and I haven't heard any more about it .. Duke gets a number 2 in the toughest region, where ever that is..
 

pisgah101

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2 in the west with the Zags.. If we win tonight I could see a slight glimmer of a one seed but I think we're a safe 2 now
 

Liftee

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Duke is still paying its penance for losing to NC State at home. I know it was a long time ago but it looks so bad in any comparison. I think we get a 3 in the west. Depending on the 2 seed in that bracket it might be better than a 2 in the East, even if they are at MSG.
 

IPSYCHOSIS

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Neither UNC or Duke will get a 1 seed ...not happening ..I'm guessing 2 seed locks if we win tonight ..3 if we lose with possibility to sneak a 2
 

DukeDenver

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We're gettin a one seed with a win tonight. When that happens tarhole nation will have a meltdown of epic proportions.
I like this. Give me more of this. Their feminine tears will sustain me over the long summer while it's all golf and tennis.
 

Dukebonedoc

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I like this. Give me more of this. Their feminine tears will sustain me over the long summer while it's all golf and tennis.


I don't post a lot but this one is worth it. Looks like the 1 seed is in play. We control our own destiny. It's time to go get it!

2017 NCAA Tournament: Duke among six teams still in play for a No. 1 seed
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...mong-six-teams-still-in-play-for-a-no-1-seed/
via http://cbssportsapp.com 2017 NCAA Tournament: Duke among six teams still in play for a No. 1 seed
 
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DukeDenver

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I don't post a lot but this one is worth it. Looks like the 1 seed is in play. We control our own destiny. It's time to go get it!

2017 NCAA Tournament: Duke among six teams still in play for a No. 1 seed
http://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...mong-six-teams-still-in-play-for-a-no-1-seed/
via http://cbssportsapp.com 2017 NCAA Tournament: Duke among six teams still in play for a No. 1 seed
Yes! Please just yes. Knock Notre Dame and UNC down a peg and have the whole nation cursing Duke the 1 seed.
 

IPSYCHOSIS

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We're not getting a 1 seed with a win..0 chance imo ...man Iowa state is going to be scarey in the dance ..no way an 8 loss team gets a 1 just because of all our adversity ...PAC team will get the final 1..
 
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DukeDenver

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We're not getting a 1 seed with a win..0 chance imo ...man Iowa state is going to be scarey in the dance ..no way an 8 loss team gets a 1 ...no way
So no ACC team gets one? Seems dumb to punish teams for playing in a stacked conference.