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[chasepollard]

This is my favorite time of the year and this is my favorite board to follow. Yet, we don't have much discussion going.

I'm going to fill out each bracket with my best effort to use all the wrestling I watch and make my wife sit through. Hopefully these generate some discussion and maybe get us close to a solid set of expectations for OSU and the NCAA tourney.

I've got Peters and Terao making some noise, and of course Youtsey scares me pretty bad...so here goes.

Semis...Nato vs Millhof after Millhof upsets Gillman. Maybe wishful thinking here? Mega vs. dance. NATO and dance square off for the title. Again, maybe wishful thinking hoping PSU loses points here?

Blood round...
Terao vs. Gillman...Gillman
Macri vs. Peters...Peters
Petrol vs. Schram....Schram
Rodriguez vs. Klimara...Klimara

It finishes out there that Gillman beats Peters and Mega beats Gillman and Klimara for 3rd. Klimara beats Schram and Millhof to finish 4th. Millhof 5th, Peters 6th, Gillman 7th and Schram 8th.

I've noticed Peters isn't hitting an all cylinders, but this is the way the bracket shakes out for him.

If it goes this way, PSU is ahead in points. However, OSU wrestles above seed and earns some unexpected points.

 

[april racer]

This would be an ideal scenario for OSU, but I don't see the top 4 making the semis. It would be ironic if Gilman lost to the upstart big 12 winner again. I Think Klimara will come back to take fifth. I have no clue how the top 4 will shake up, but I expect them to finish in those spots in some order. That being said since 125 seems so clear that there is a separation between the top 4 and everyone else then one or maybe 2 of them will get upset. Seems like the obvious choices don't work out about half the time.

 

[april racer]

Not sure if you have seen it, but Lutherace on the hawkeye report has an amazing interactive bracket. I think the title of the thread is "you asked for it, here it is".

 

[chasepollard]

Thanks, I'll check that out...but I do want to discuss here.

Also, I've got my bracket where the Top 4 don't make the semis. It's NATO, Millhof, dance and mega.

 

[chasepollard]

I'm having a problem doing anything on the link?

 

[cowboyalum1990]

I actually like your semis pick. Holding weight for 3 days has an effect!

 

[chasepollard]

Yeah, the weigh in is one thing that creates problems picking this thing?

 

[april racer]

I'm having a problem doing anything on the link?

The link from HR? It should open to a rugby site, then download bracket, put scores in yellow boxes and it auto fills. Put in score of 30-0 for pin.

 

[chasepollard]

I'm on an iPad, so I'll tinker with it.

 

[NCcowboy]

As much as I would like to see someone out side the top 4 break through, I am not optimistic. I think Tomasello repeats. I have not seen Dance this year and don't know who he wrestled, but he is 28-1. Can't see Gillman losing to Milhoff, but would like to be wrong. Best case is somehow Eddie beats Megaludis and Gillman and Nico wrestle in consultation semis. In my opinion, Kilmara could finish 5 or could not place. Really hoping for the 5 th place finish. Same feeling for Rogers.

 

[chasepollard]

I just ran through the tourney as unbiased as I can...we can win! 128.5 to 118 for the good guys! Went back and gave Conaway another match and bonused a few more and got it to 128.5 to 125.

That spreadsheet is crazy!

On 25...Millhof can beat Gillman. Its very important that he does. Eddie has to get crazy to beat Mega.

 

[april racer]

I just ran through the tourney as unbiased as I can...we can win! 128.5 to 118 for the good guys! Went back and gave Conaway another match and bonused a few more and got it to 128.5 to 125.

That spreadsheet is crazy!

On 25...Millhof can beat Gillman. Its very important that he does. Eddie has to get crazy to beat Mega.

I think we have a great chance. We just can't have anyone bomb. We have few that can improve their seeds a lot, especially Collica and Boyd.

 

[chasepollard]

Back to just 25...

Yes, there's not much of a chance that the top 4 don't finish in some range of 1-4...but for OSU, we need Mega at 4.

Eddie is not a bonus machine, so need an upset to get him into the conso finals or he needs to step it up for the lower ranked guys.

 

[oberebo]

Back to just 25...

Yes, there's not much of a chance that the top 4 don't finish in some range of 1-4...but for OSU, we need Mega at 4.

Eddie is not a bonus machine, so need an upset to get him into the conso finals or he needs to step it up for the lower ranked guys.

Past history does not support Klimara over Gilman but I like your optimism chase.

 

[Wrassler223]

I did my ncaa picks draft with the other coaches last night. The way we do it is we just go in order from person to person, and you get any 10 guys you want in the tournament. Once somebody picks a person he no longer an available option for somebody else's future picks. 3 points for advancement in championship bracket, 1 on backside. Extra point for bonus. Plus one of your ten has to be a sleeper (outside of the top ten. Here's my picks.
1. Jason Nolf
2. Kyle Snyder
3. Cory Clark
4. Thomas Gilman
5. Jden Cox
6. Brandon Sorensen
7. Joey Dance
8. Collica (sleeper)
9. Anthony Ashnault
10. Joe Smith.

What do y'all think?

 

[april racer]

I did my ncaa picks draft with the other coaches last night. The way we do it is we just go in order from person to person, and you get any 10 guys you want in the tournament. Once somebody picks a person he no longer an available option for somebody else's future picks. 3 points for advancement in championship bracket, 1 on backside. Extra point for bonus. Plus one of your ten has to be a sleeper (outside of the top ten. Here's my picks.
1. Jason Nolf
2. Kyle Snyder
3. Cory Clark
4. Thomas Gilman
5. Jden Cox
6. Brandon Sorensen
7. Joey Dance
8. Collica (sleeper)
9. Anthony Ashnault
10. Joe Smith.

What do y'all think?

How many contestants? Looks like you hedged pretty well. Looks pretty good. 4-5 finalists and all in the top 4.

 

[Wrassler223]

Out of 4 other people.

 

[OkieSpladle]

I would say Gilman is the least likely of the top 4 to lose to someone outside the top 4 due to style. He is so tough and aggressive (overly so...maybe he gets DQd?) that I just don't see guys like Millhoff having much chance. He has only had 3 decisions all year (11-4 over Lambert, 5-1 over Rios Oregon State, 4-1 over Rodriguez NDSU) while he has majored Lambert, Eddie, Youtsey, and Fausz. I'd expect Dance or NaTo to be more likely to get upset than Gilman, but the top 4 in the semi's seems most likely.

I think our ideal scenario (that doesn't involve something crazy happening which, of course, it always could) is Millhoff and Eddie both losing in the quarters so that they are on opposite sides in the consis. This would make Eddie in the 5/6 match very likely, IMO, and I'm not sure if Millhoff gets there or not. The other contenders on the back (Cruz, Mcghee, Peters, Schram, Rios) are tough, but I like how Eddie matches up with them.

 

[april racer]

They are doing by weight previews on flo, they are up to 149. So far EK 5th, Dean 2nd, and AC fourth.

 

[chasepollard]

I would say Gilman is the least likely of the top 4 to lose to someone outside the top 4 due to style. He is so tough and aggressive (overly so...maybe he gets DQd?) that I just don't see guys like Millhoff having much chance. He has only had 3 decisions all year (11-4 over Lambert, 5-1 over Rios Oregon State, 4-1 over Rodriguez NDSU) while he has majored Lambert, Eddie, Youtsey, and Fausz. I'd expect Dance or NaTo to be more likely to get upset than Gilman, but the top 4 in the semi's seems most likely.

I think our ideal scenario (that doesn't involve something crazy happening which, of course, it always could) is Millhoff and Eddie both losing in the quarters so that they are on opposite sides in the consis. This would make Eddie in the 5/6 match very likely, IMO, and I'm not sure if Millhoff gets there or not. The other contenders on the back (Cruz, Mcghee, Peters, Schram, Rios) are tough, but I like how Eddie matches up with them.

I really agree with this! Tough bracket outside of the Top 4...and the top 4 is going to be tough to crack.

 

[Poel_Jeer]

I also agree that the top four are gonna be tough to crack. I feel Tomasello is most likely to be upset. Tomasello has wrestled close with Megaludis and Dance. Anytime you wrestle close, you could go down...Gilman is a hot head, I see him getting frustrated and doing something stupid and not making the finals. My AA's are in order Dance, Tomasello, Megaludis, Gilman, Klimara, Peters, Millhof, McGhee.

 

[OSUMatFan]

I think Eddie has a little advantage in the quarter finals as he is a smaller 125 pounder and pulls less weight. If I am not mistaken the matches for finals run simultaneously with the consolations so the time after weigh-in is limited. A big 125 pounder will suffer in that scenario. I have no idea how much Nico pulls, but that could help Eddie. Nico is truly a beast and will be tough, but that may be a little advantage for Eddie.

 

[skylinepoke]

You guys are much more optimistic on Eddie than I am. I just hope that he AAs, a higher placing will be gravy.

 

[chasepollard]

This weight is a bear! Outside of the Top4, you have 4 more guys that are quality enough to sneak into the Finals most years. Its so close I am getting pumped. Mark Perry posted a vine, and I am sure there are more to go from others...but man, getting choked up on Monday makes me feel I need to temper my emotions this year.