13 Years 300 Million

Canadian Dukie

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Bryce Harper just signed with the Phillies...how high are these crazy salaries going to go? he will make $157k for every game he plays...$45k for every plate appearance! The average salary for people living in Philadelphia is 41k per year..I know its all about market value,but this is ridiculous.your thoughts?
 

nets on nets on nets

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Imagine if there was no salary cap in basketball.
1 guy isn't gonna do squat to save a baseball team, 1 guy can make all the difference in the world when it comes to basketball.
 

dbav

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The average annual actually isn't bad for him, but 13 years is way too much from the perspective of the franchise. I'm actually happy my team didn't go after him for that duration of a contract.
 

HeLooks2MuchLikeDave

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Imagine if there was no salary cap in basketball.
1 guy isn't gonna do squat to save a baseball team, 1 guy can make all the difference in the world when it comes to basketball.
Exactly. Especially when you think about $200-300m contracts given to pitchers. Imagine if you had a basketball player who only played once every 5 games, left after the 3rd quarter, and only played on offense??
 

retiredsoldier

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And my fellow brothers and sister serving this great country everyday, are on a set salary based on their rank. Why I always said, some jobs you can't do for the pay, you just have to love what you represent and provide. I can't be upset about it, it's the fans that help generate the nonsense also. The amount of money professionals get for playing a game seems crazy regardless of the sport.
 

Willcampbell

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Baseball definitely needs a salary cap and a spending floor. No reason for the World Series champs to have a $200 million payroll and the worst team to have a $16 million one. Baseball needs to fix this.
If all a salary cap does is put more money into rich owners pockets, then I vote "no." However, couple that with a mandatory price reduction for fans going to the park, then count me in.
OFC
 

phillyzag

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Trout may want to come home and play for his home baseball team in 2 years, The Phillies will open their checkbook again.
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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A buddy of mine that’s a Cubs fan was hoping that Harper would’ve signed with the Cubs posted on Facebook that Harper got less money than he was asking for because he wanted $30 million per year. I think it’s crazh how much baseball players get paid per season.
 

youngman42

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It's not as good as Machado's on an AAV (Machado, 10 yrs, 300; Harper 13 / 330). And, it's a better deal than Stanton (The Yankees should never have traded for Stanton - that was ridiculous; they'd have been much better off paying for Harper as a lefty to pair with Judge instead of Stanton and Judge).

The thing about the contracts that has to be understood is that MLB teams get a ton of money from local revenue b/c they have 81 home games vs 8 in the NFL and local TV. But, this is actually a slowing down of contract growth.

And, it's a great deal for the Phillies. Contrary to the above, 13 years is not a bad deal. Harper is only 26 and in 13 years he'll be 39. And 13 years from now his contract will look average.

The other value of the deal is that there are no opt outs and it's a no trade clause. The value for Harper and the Phillies is that they can attract other free agents and those guys know that Harper won't be gone in two years.

Personally, although Harper has wow factor and will draw fans in for that in Philly, he's not a high average hitter and is not as good an all around player as a Trout or even Machado (who is a solid 3Bman).
 

skysdad

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I find it crazy that the Phillies or any one else is willing to pay Harper that much money. I don't think he has ever had a 100 RBI season and doesn't have a good career BA. The Philly fans are gonna demand super seasons from him for that kind of money. OFC
 
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A buddy of mine that’s a Cubs fan was hoping that Harper would’ve signed with the Cubs posted on Facebook that Harper got less money than he was asking for because he wanted $30 million per year. I think it’s crazh how much baseball players get paid per season.
James is paid $10M more per season than Harper while playing half the number of games and guaranteed 1 day break in between. Occasionally Harper will play 2 games in 1 day...
 

BeerPoisoning

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Athletes in general make an absurd amount of money, but we as fans pay for it to be that way. Can’t blame the capitalists for paying the employees that make it happen.

I think boxing is the one that drives me the most crazy. Mayweather netted $275 million off of that fight against McGregor.

ONE FIGHT. $275M.
Jesus
 

Willcampbell

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My friend and high school teammate, Steve Braun, was among the first to make 100K per year. He was the beneficiary of expansion, and went from the Twins to the Seattle Pilots for the big bucks. We all thought he was rich. How times have changed!
OFC
 
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dukedevilz

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I don't look at baseball stats often, but I find it odd that Harper has had quite a roller-coaster in terms of batting average. That can't be normal, right?

Batting Average from the last 4 years:
2015: .330
2016: .243
2017: .319
2018: .249
 

GillJET

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I don't look at baseball stats often, but I find it odd that Harper has had quite a roller-coaster in terms of batting average. That can't be normal, right?

Batting Average from the last 4 years:
2015: .330
2016: .243
2017: .319
2018: .249
Definitely unusual. But he also takes a ton of walks and hits for a lot of power, so he still brings a lot to the table as a hitter.

I would have loved for my Cardinals to have gone out and got Bryce. I think a change of scenery from DC is going to do him good.
 
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Liftee

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James is unique in his consistency and durability. Harper has neither. Stats show that baseball players start declining at age 32 or so. The Phillies just signed an A-Rod type contract. If they don't mind paying the last 7 years for a bench player, then the first 6 years might make it worthwhile if Harper becomes more consistent and durable. Time will tell.
 

dukephysics

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Definitely unusual. But he also takes a ton of walks and hits for a lot of power, so he still brings a lot to the table as a hitter.

I would have loved for my Cardinals to have gone out and got Bryce. I think a change of scenery from DC is going to do him good.
Definitely this. Looking back at the last few NL batting champs (Harper was runner-up in 2015), he has a few seasons that are much worst BA than those guys, but his on base percentage is pretty exceptional.
 
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