2019-20 Minute Game

[IGNORE]

So I don’t see any difference makers for next year in the future, so let’s play the minutes game. Total has to equal 200, assuming we have enough guys to get 200 mpg /s

REVISED:
LG: Buie 15, Greer 15 (cringing - let one of them be B1G ready)
Wings: Turner 25, Kopp 25, Gaines 25
Big: Nance 15 (out of position and probably not effective yet)

Subs:
Beran 25 (cuz he arrives playable)
Spencer 10
Young 20 (cuz he has to)
Jones 25 (better than expected)

Greer (really rather him shirt and get his body at the right age)

I have low expectations. I would like to see:

LG: Greer, Gaines
OG: Buie, Gaines
Wing: Kopp, Beran
S4: Nance, Beran
C: Jones, Young

That’s eight returning players. Sprinkle in Turner and Spencer to cover for injury and illness. And let the young guys develop for next year, figure where the needs lie and recruit those positions hard.

 

[NJCat]

So I don’t see any difference makers for next year in the future, so let’s play the minutes game. Total has to equal 200, assuming we have enough guys to get 200 mpg /s

LG: Bam 20 (means he is good)
Wings: Turner 25, Kopp 25, Gaines 25
Big: Nance 15 (out of position and probably not effective yet)

Subs:
Beran 20 (cuz he arrives playable)
Greer 10 (really rather him shirt and get his body at the right age)
Spencer 10
Buie 10 (true frosh style)
Young 20 (cuz he has to), Jones 20 (better than expected)

I have low expectations. I would like to see:

LG: Bam, Greer
OG: Buie
Wing: Kopp, Beran
S4: Nance, Beran
C: Jones, Young

That’s eight returning players. Sprinkle in Turner, Gaines and Spencer to cover for injury and illness. And let the young guys develop for next year, figure where the needs lie and recruit those positions hard.

You are having a game to guess minutes of last season?

I bet I can get it exactly right......

[BTW you realize Bam is going to be a senior in high school this year and won't join NU until the 2020-21 season.....]

 

[IGNORE]

You are having a game to guess minutes of last season?

I bet I can get it exactly right......

[BTW you realize Bam is going to be a senior in high school this year and won't join NU until the 2020-21 season.....]

What are you talking about, check the title. Didn’t realize about Bam. Must be missing someone.

 

[NJCat]

Didn’t realize about Bam. Must be missing someone.

Here are the 10 scholarship players eligible for '19-20.....you weren't missing anyone, you cluelessly had a guy who isn't enrolled on the dang team.

Buie
Greer
Jones
Kopp
Nance
Gaines
Spencer
Young
Turner
Beran

 

[IGNORE]

Here are the 10 scholarship players eligible for '19-20.....you weren't missing anyone, you cluelessly had a guy who isn't enrolled on the dang team.

Buie
Greer
Jones
Kopp
Nance
Gaines
Spencer
Young
Turner
Beran

Well ****, 11 on schollie, 10 eligible, one LAX player. No wonder CCC has been blowing up my phone. Looks like I’m going back for round three. Wonder which house I should pledge this time.

 

[NJCat]

Wonder which house I should pledge this time.

DU.

[Since there is no FU]

 

[IGNORE]

DU.

[Since there is no FU]

I’ve bent an elbow there. That would work. I can probably afford to sponsor a party or two as we stomp the B1G on the way to the Final Four under my experienced play.

 

[freewillie07]

LG: Buie, Greer, Spencer
Wings: Turner, Gaines, Kopp
Stretch 4: Nance, Beran
Big: Jones, Young

Lead guard will be the most interesting battle. I wonder if Spencer could possibly start over the two young guys. Either way, I expect a pretty even split of time until one of the three demonstrates a clear reason to start.

Will also be interesting to see if Nance gets some run at center and how B1G-ready Jones and Beran are as freshmen.

I expect Turner will get over 30 minutes a game as he can play the 1 through 4 positions, particularly when healthy. I also think Nance in particular will get a lot of time as Collins prepares for the future.

 

[GOUNUII]

DU.

[Since there is no FU]

Here’s a wild guess.
1. Jones 27
2. Young 13
3. Nance 28
4. Kopp 28
5. Beran 24
6. Gaines 34
7. Turner 34
8. Greer/Buie/Spencer split 12 among them. Not all 3 play every game.

GOUNUII

 

[scru]

Love this game! Here's my totally wild *** guess:

LG: Greer (15), Boo (15), Spencer (10)
W1: Gaines (28), Kopp (12)
W2: Turner (28), Kopp (12)
S4: Beran (25), Nance (15)
C: Nance (10), Jones (15), Young (15)

If Jones impresses and is ready to start, then it gets interesting to see who starts at the 4. The "small ball" starting lineup shown could be fun, but not sure who rebounds and who can bang against B1G centers.

The LG rotation scarily reminds me of the Bulls the last few season, searching desperately for a reliable starter. Hope one of them emerges!

Mostly, I'm concerned about the complete lack of depth. Zero margin for injuries. Yikes!

 

[Medill90]

Love this game! Here's my totally wild *** guess:

LG: Greer (15), Boo (15), Spencer (10)
W1: Gaines (28), Kopp (12)
W2: Turner (28), Kopp (12)
S4: Beran (25), Nance (15)
C: Nance (10), Jones (15), Young (15)

If Jones impresses and is ready to start, then it gets interesting to see who starts at the 4. The "small ball" starting lineup shown could be fun, but not sure who rebounds and who can bang against B1G centers.

The LG rotation scarily reminds me of the Bulls the last few season, searching desperately for a reliable starter. Hope one of them emerges!

Mostly, I'm concerned about the complete lack of depth. Zero margin for injuries. Yikes!

I think Collins gives Nance the chance to play major minutes and develop the first third of the season...so he's at the 4 and possibly 5. Kopp, AJ and Gaines are all on the floor. Will be interesting to see if Beran pushes into the starting five or is a back up to Nance and Kopp.

I think Collins wants PG skills in the backcourt and I agree that it'll be a committee...it's a guess that Bouie starts at PG with Greer backing him up.

To start the season:

Nance
Kopp
AJ
Gaines
Bouie

Bench:

Beran
Greer
Spencer
AJ/Young

I have a hard time seeing Collins with two frosh starters. And unless Nance had a monster off season, he won't be paired with a frosh center. But you have to start him and play him.

It gets complicated for Collins if Beran can really play, and can really convert. Same with Bouie....if he can be adequate at PG as a frosh, not turn it over, make the offense move and drive and convert....how do you sit him when there's no PG on the floor.

 

[NUCat320]

Turner leads in minutes. Gaines is second. Both over 30 mpg.
Tino is last in minutes.

Jones leads the freshmen in minutes, and gets more minutes than Young.

Boo is the PG with the most minutes, followed by Turner when he’s off of his natural 2.

Kopp plays more than Nance, who plays more than Greer.

Spencer hardly plays, but is a good story late in losses.

Beran plays a lot.

Somebody else can add up what that means.

 

[Titanium999]

So I don’t see any difference makers for next year in the future, so let’s play the minutes game. Total has to equal 200, assuming we have enough guys to get 200 mpg /s

REVISED:
LG: Buie 15, Greer 15 (cringing - let one of them be B1G ready)
Wings: Turner 25, Kopp 25, Gaines 25
Big: Nance 15 (out of position and probably not effective yet)

Subs:
Beran 25 (cuz he arrives playable)
Spencer 10
Young 20 (cuz he has to)
Jones 25 (better than expected)

Greer (really rather him shirt and get his body at the right age)

I have low expectations. I would like to see:

LG: Greer, Gaines
OG: Buie, Gaines
Wing: Kopp, Beran
S4: Nance, Beran
C: Jones, Young

That’s eight returning players. Sprinkle in Turner and Spencer to cover for injury and illness. And let the young guys develop for next year, figure where the needs lie and recruit those positions hard.

I like Geeer! May turn out better than bmac!

 

[CappyNU]

I think Collins gives Nance the chance to play major minutes and develop the first third of the season...so he's at the 4 and possibly 5. Kopp, AJ and Gaines are all on the floor. Will be interesting to see if Beran pushes into the starting five or is a back up to Nance and Kopp.

I think Collins wants PG skills in the backcourt and I agree that it'll be a committee...it's a guess that Bouie starts at PG with Greer backing him up.

To start the season:

Nance
Kopp
AJ
Gaines
Bouie

Bench:

Beran
Greer
Spencer
AJ/Young

I have a hard time seeing Collins with two frosh starters. And unless Nance had a monster off season, he won't be paired with a frosh center. But you have to start him and play him.

It gets complicated for Collins if Beran can really play, and can really convert. Same with Bouie....if he can be adequate at PG as a frosh, not turn it over, make the offense move and drive and convert....how do you sit him when there's no PG on the floor.

I think we all have to look at this season in comparison to 2015, as the start of a new cycle. Coincidentally, 2015 was the last time Collins started two frosh in BMac and Law.

2015's normalized minutes distribution:
Fr. BMac 33
Jr. Demps 32
Jr. Olah 29
Fr. Law 24
So. Lumpkin 22
Sr. Cobb 14 (22 mpg in the 21 games he played)
Fr. Lindsey 14
Sr Sobo 10
So. Taphorn 8
Fr. Skelly 7
Sr. Kreisberg 5
Fr. Vassar 2

Which essentially translated to this:

PG: BMac 33, Sobo 5, Vassar 2
SG: Demps 32, Sobo 5, Lindsey 3
SF: Law 15, Cobb 14, Lindsey 11
PF: Lumpkin 22, Law 9, Taphorn 8, Skelly 1
C: Olah 29, Skelly 6, Kreisberg 5

Here's how I think it shakes out at least initially:

LG: Bouie 18, Greer 12, Spencer 10
Wing: Gaines 30, Turner 10
Wing: Turner 20, Kopp 15, Beran 5
S4: Beran 20, Nance 10, Kopp 10
C: Nance 15, Jones 15, Young 10

I think there are very few fixtures in this lineup outside of Gaines and Turner, and the early games will give Collins the ability to see what he has, how they play together, and will adjust as necessary. If Kopp, Greer and Nance take a big leap, they will probably get more playing time at the expense of Bouie, Jones and Beran. Young is a total unknown at this point, maybe he surprises and takes more minutes. Likewise with Spencer - if he legitimately makes the team better, maybe he gets more minutes, but if I'm Collins I want my young guys getting more minutes for development.

 

[TheC]

I like Geeer! May turn out better than bmac!

No! You're not allowed to adopt a new player.

 

[NUCat320]

I think we all have to look at this season in comparison to 2015, as the start of a new cycle. Coincidentally, 2015 was the last time Collins started two frosh in BMac and Law.

2015's normalized minutes distribution:
Fr. BMac 33
Jr. Demps 32
Jr. Olah 29
Fr. Law 24
So. Lumpkin 22
Sr. Cobb 14 (22 mpg in the 21 games he played)
Fr. Lindsey 14
Sr Sobo 10
So. Taphorn 8
Fr. Skelly 7
Sr. Kreisberg 5
Fr. Vassar 2

Which essentially translated to this:

PG: BMac 33, Sobo 5, Vassar 2
SG: Demps 32, Sobo 5, Lindsey 3
SF: Law 15, Cobb 14, Lindsey 11
PF: Lumpkin 22, Law 9, Taphorn 8, Skelly 1
C: Olah 29, Skelly 6, Kreisberg 5

Here's how I think it shakes out at least initially:

LG: Bouie 18, Greer 12, Spencer 10
Wing: Gaines 30, Turner 10
Wing: Turner 20, Kopp 15, Beran 5
S4: Beran 20, Nance 10, Kopp 10
C: Nance 15, Jones 15, Young 10

I think there are very few fixtures in this lineup outside of Gaines and Turner, and the early games will give Collins the ability to see what he has, how they play together, and will adjust as necessary. If Kopp, Greer and Nance take a big leap, they will probably get more playing time at the expense of Bouie, Jones and Beran. Young is a total unknown at this point, maybe he surprises and takes more minutes. Likewise with Spencer - if he legitimately makes the team better, maybe he gets more minutes, but if I'm Collins I want my young guys getting more minutes for development.

Your breakdown basically achieves “somebody else can add up what that means” from my post. My only point of disagreement with you is that I haven’t seen enough to believe Nance can hold down many minutes at the 5, even as a 21st century tall guy who protects the rim and floats on offense. (Young being an unknown and Jones being a frosh, Nance might emerge as the best option.)

That said, I think we can expect high variability — Nance or Kopp or Beran getting 32 minutes one night, and 11 the next, with, as you wrote, only Turner and Gaines getting their guaranteed minutes each time out.

Turner is a very good player, and I hope that the PG play is solid enough that he can spend most of his time off the ball. The point guard position has 250 minutes of D1 experience outside of Turner.

 

[ricko6543211]

I think we all have to look at this season in comparison to 2015, as the start of a new cycle. Coincidentally, 2015 was the last time Collins started two frosh in BMac and Law.

2015's normalized minutes distribution:
Fr. BMac 33
Jr. Demps 32
Jr. Olah 29
Fr. Law 24
So. Lumpkin 22
Sr. Cobb 14 (22 mpg in the 21 games he played)
Fr. Lindsey 14
Sr Sobo 10
So. Taphorn 8
Fr. Skelly 7
Sr. Kreisberg 5
Fr. Vassar 2

Which essentially translated to this:

PG: BMac 33, Sobo 5, Vassar 2
SG: Demps 32, Sobo 5, Lindsey 3
SF: Law 15, Cobb 14, Lindsey 11
PF: Lumpkin 22, Law 9, Taphorn 8, Skelly 1
C: Olah 29, Skelly 6, Kreisberg 5

Here's how I think it shakes out at least initially:

LG: Bouie 18, Greer 12, Spencer 10
Wing: Gaines 30, Turner 10
Wing: Turner 20, Kopp 15, Beran 5
S4: Beran 20, Nance 10, Kopp 10
C: Nance 15, Jones 15, Young 10

I think there are very few fixtures in this lineup outside of Gaines and Turner, and the early games will give Collins the ability to see what he has, how they play together, and will adjust as necessary. If Kopp, Greer and Nance take a big leap, they will probably get more playing time at the expense of Bouie, Jones and Beran. Young is a total unknown at this point, maybe he surprises and takes more minutes. Likewise with Spencer - if he legitimately makes the team better, maybe he gets more minutes, but if I'm Collins I want my young guys getting more minutes for development.

For this year it's almost a complete crapshoot but your guess seems as good as any.
1. Gaines and Turner should get about 30 a game
2. a few guys could end up anywhere from 12-30 (Nance, Beran, Kopp)
3. a handful could end up from 2 to 25 (Buie, Jones, Greer, Spencer, Young; with Buie and Jones likely at least 10)

 

[CappyNU]

Your breakdown basically achieves “somebody else can add up what that means” from my post. My only point of disagreement with you is that I haven’t seen enough to believe Nance can hold down many minutes at the 5, even as a 21st century tall guy who protects the rim and floats on offense. (Young being an unknown and Jones being a frosh, Nance might emerge as the best option.)

That said, I think we can expect high variability — Nance or Kopp or Beran getting 32 minutes one night, and 11 the next, with, as you wrote, only Turner and Gaines getting their guaranteed minutes each time out.

Turner is a very good player, and I hope that the PG play is solid enough that he can spend most of his time off the ball. The point guard position has 250 minutes of D1 experience outside of Turner.

I mean, Nance played 3 minutes at the 5 against OSU in our only win down the stretch and they didn't score a single point on him, what more do you need to see to anoint him as Pardon's successor? All kidding aside, I agree that I don't think Nance will be able to bang with B1G centers throughout the season and his main position should be at the 4, but then there will be a logjam to get Kopp, Beran and Nance all on the floor at the same time, assuming they are as good as I think they can be.

 

[freewillie07]

I mean, Nance played 3 minutes at the 5 against OSU in our only win down the stretch and they didn't score a single point on him, what more do you need to see to anoint him as Pardon's successor? All kidding aside, I agree that I don't think Nance will be able to bang with B1G centers throughout the season and his main position should be at the 4, but then there will be a logjam to get Kopp, Beran and Nance all on the floor at the same time, assuming they are as good as I think they can be.

Yeah, Nance just needs to play a lot, ready or not. He has more upside than anyone on this roster, just needs confidence and experience.

 

[Medill90]

I mean, Nance played 3 minutes at the 5 against OSU in our only win down the stretch and they didn't score a single point on him, what more do you need to see to anoint him as Pardon's successor? All kidding aside, I agree that I don't think Nance will be able to bang with B1G centers throughout the season and his main position should be at the 4, but then there will be a logjam to get Kopp, Beran and Nance all on the floor at the same time, assuming they are as good as I think they can be.

I think Collins tries out Nance a bit at the 5 and goes with an athletic, fast lineup....Nance, Beran, AJ, Gaines and Bouie...with a lot of help D in the middle.

That's if the two bigs aren't as ready to go.

 

[IGNORE]

I think Collins tries out Nance a bit at the 5 and goes with an athletic, fast lineup....Nance, Beran, AJ, Gaines and Bouie...with a lot of help D in the middle.

That's if the two bigs aren't as ready to go.

While I understand Young was also deemed a project, I suspect if he is not ready to go this year, then he will be, at best, a rotation or practice player for his career.

 

[Medill90]

While I understand Young was also deemed a project, I suspect if he is not ready to go this year, then he will be, at best, a rotation or practice player for his career.

I am so far from an informed opinion about Young or Jones. No idea.

It'll be super interesting to see what a year under BJ has done for Young....how polished he looks, his defense, etc. Jones, as I've written before, looks like a difficult guy to move off his spot. Does he have good knowledge and instincts...is he pretty far along with his bball development. Couldn't tell you. I was struck in his state playoffs film by his fairly smoothly knocking down three pointers.

So we'll see.

Notice Heywood has gone quiet? We need to take him out for a five martini lunch.

 

[NJCat]

It'll be super interesting to see what a year under BJ has done for Jones....how polished he looks, his defense, etc. Jones, as I've written before, looks like a difficult guy to move off his spot. Does he have good knowledge and instincts...is he pretty far along with his bball development. Couldn't tell you. I was struck in his state playoffs film by his fairly smoothly knocking down three pointers.

I'm confused by your post. Jones is an incoming FY, has not had a year under Brian James. Young has.

 

[Medill90]

miswrote

 

[haywood jahblowme]

AJ: 20
MK: 24
AG: 27
PN: 28
RY: 22

BB: 18
RG: 14
PS: 14
JJ: 15
RB: 18

 

[IGNORE]

AJ: 20
MK: 24
AG: 27
PN: 28
RY: 22

BB: 18
RG: 14
PS: 14
JJ: 15
RB: 18

If:

• Nance leads in minutes, I’ll eat my hat;
• If AJ gets more minutes than Buie, Jones and Beran, then get ready for a crappy 20-21 too;
• If Young gets to 20 mpg, that will be a good thing;
• If any of our expected starters for 20-21 aren’t starting by B1G, they better be redshirting or injured or we are having a miracle season.

Thing is that I worry that Heywood has inside information. And I don’t think it’s good information.

 

[Sec_112]

A) I've heard second hand that last winter the staff expected two of this year's freshmen to be day-one B10 season starters. Take that for what it's worth.

I was about to ask which two freshmen, but then we were sidetracked.

B) Personally, my ideal situation is to see Beran, Nance and Jones play to a level that they are unquestionably the starting front line somewhere in the first third of the B10 season.

I assume that's not realistic, but that would be a real program changer in my world.

C) Someone please tell me I wont need to suffer through another season of Turner at the lead guard.

The opposite side of the Beran-Nance-Jones scenario is AJ at 20+ mpg as the LG in the B10. At this early stage, that's a key signal of a bad direction.

 

[Medill90]

AJ: 20
MK: 24
AG: 27
PN: 28
RY: 22

BB: 18
RG: 14
PS: 14
JJ: 15
RB: 18

Looks like....Robbie Beran and Boo Boo Bouie are showing something in practice....and BJ has made significant progress with Ryan Young.

The frosh aren't going to be day one starters....but they will start some games and press the starters.

 

[IGNORE]

Looks like....Robbie Beran and Boo Boo Bouie are showing something in practice....and BJ has made significant progress with Ryan Young.

The frosh aren't going to be day one starters....but they will start some games and press the starters.

Not sure how you read that. If Boo showing something then AJ would be so many minutes. Same w Beran, he would be more than 20 mpg. Keep in mind, w nine scholllie players, everyone has to play. So zero is not the minimum.

 

[Medill90]

Not sure how you read that. If Boo showing something then AJ would be so many minutes. Same w Beran, he would be more than 20 mpg. Keep in mind, w nine scholllie players, everyone has to play. So zero is not the minimum.

The 20 minutes for AJ is a question. Barring injury, I think he'd be more like high twenties.

Haywood is giving Boo and Greer 32 minutes. And Pat Spencer 14. Assuming Haywood is roughly correct, that suggests that AJ is only at PG until the first timeout. If he plays well, Boo may be starting by Christmas. I think it's going to feel much more like a PG is on the court this year, running the offense. Guard play will improve this year over last.

I'm guessing there can't be an accurate read on Pat Spencer until he comes back in the Fall. He does the practice/work out thing in the summer which is a big data download for him. He's already thinking about changing his body for basketball. He'll come back a basketball player. I still question whether he can be a 1, but we'll find that out.

 

[willycat]

Not sure how you read that. If Boo showing something then AJ would be so many minutes. Same w Beran, he would be more than 20 mpg. Keep in mind, w nine scholllie players, everyone has to play. So zero is not the minimum.

With just 9 scholarship players, wondering if another grad transfer might be on the horizon? Anyone?

 

[EvanstonCat]

Turner leads in minutes. Gaines is second. Both over 30 mpg.
Tino is last in minutes.

Jones leads the freshmen in minutes, and gets more minutes than Young.

Boo is the PG with the most minutes, followed by Turner when he’s off of his natural 2.

Kopp plays more than Nance, who plays more than Greer.

Spencer hardly plays, but is a good story late in losses.

Beran plays a lot.

Somebody else can add up what that means.

I bet Spencer plays 30 min a game

 

[freewillie07]

I bet Spencer plays 30 min a game

I'll absolutely take the other side of that bet.

 

[willycat]

I bet Spencer plays 30 min a game

Only if NU starts a men's Lacrosse Program.

 

[mikewebb68]

With just 9 scholarship players, wondering if another grad transfer might be on the horizon? Anyone?

FYI, we have 10 scholarship players eligible this year, possibly 11 if Malnati receives a schollie. But to answer your question, It is certainly possible that we will add another scholarship player, but the options are dwindling as the summer progresses. And taking a late option from overseas, as Illinois did recently when they were short on scholarship players, is not as easy for us due to our academic requirements.

 

[go cats go_rivals310290]

FYI, we have 10 scholarship players eligible this year, possibly 11 if Malnati receives a schollie.

The distinction of Malnati as a scholarship player is basically meaningless if the coaching staff decides to go this route (because they can't sign anyone else of value). Scholarship status doesn't change the fact that, in 3 years with the program, Malnati has played 14 career minutes with 0 points, 1 assist and 2 rebounds. We all know that simply making use of a vacant scholarship on a walk-on is not the same as signing a real prospect who can help us win in the B1G.

 

[NJCat]

The distinction of Malnati as a scholarship player is basically meaningless if the coaching staff decides to go this route (because they can't sign anyone else of value). Scholarship status doesn't change the fact that, in 3 years with the program, Malnati has played 14 career minutes with 0 points, 1 assist and 2 rebounds. We all know that simply making use of a vacant scholarship on a walk-on is not the same as signing a real prospect who can help us win in the B1G.

Precisely.

Tino make become Reggie Hearn v2.0 but right now he doesn't look like a contributor based on what we have seen from him. Jersey Mike seems to be overly optimistic about him.

 

[haywood jahblowme]

no one is being added

 

[willycat]

FYI, we have 10 scholarship players eligible this year, possibly 11 if Malnati receives a schollie. But to answer your question, It is certainly possible that we will add another scholarship player, but the options are dwindling as the summer progresses. And taking a late option from overseas, as Illinois did recently when they were short on scholarship players, is not as easy for us due to our academic requirements.

OK my error but with just 10 scholarship players that are eligible to sure seems somewhat low. Adding Malnati doesn't solve that problem.

 

[NUCat320]

The distinction of Malnati as a scholarship player is basically meaningless if the coaching staff decides to go this route (because they can't sign anyone else of value). Scholarship status doesn't change the fact that, in 3 years with the program, Malnati has played 14 career minutes with 0 points, 1 assist and 2 rebounds. We all know that simply making use of a vacant scholarship on a walk-on is not the same as signing a real prospect who can help us win in the B1G.

For what it’s worth, it’s a stretch to call Spencer a scholarship player too. I think 9 is the right number to use. Perhaps 9*. If all goes to plan, his most valuable contribution will be best production will be beating the crap out of Greer and Buie in practice, and throwing down a ‘no hard feelings bro’ alley-oop dunk from one of them on Senior Day.