Do you think we will have a top ten class in 2020? Hopefully, we can pull some of the players Alabama, Georgia, OU, Texas, and etc. gets every year, but its gonna take a lot of work from Frost & Co. to get it done. Look at a school like Oregon, Cristobal has a top 6 class according to Rivals.
2020 Recruiting?
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I don't think it will be a Top Ten class, it will probably be a rather small class because we will likely sign 30 this year. But we are in on some good prospects so far.
Once this staff proves they can win here consistently, then I think we might be able to get in the Top 10 range.
Once this staff proves they can win here consistently, then I think we might be able to get in the Top 10 range.
Why don't you try to enjoy this years class for a week or so???
Or maybe, wait for the upcoming season to play out?
We finally have coaches who can develop players.
We have a 4-8 team who is currently 17th in recruiting and 3rd in the big 10...I imagine our staff is going to recruit in the top 10 quite a bit once that record flips. It is hard to go 4-8 and still convince kids(many with top offers) to come to your program....we have some convincing guys.
You can say the same thing for those schools that are winning like Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, Michigan OU, and etc. It's about developing players but you need those top rated players across the nation to win a conference title and maybe college football playoffs. Also, the coaches did a good job this year recruiting, trying to get the players they need to run their offense and defense. Hopefully, they can progress in 2019 and win the Big Ten West and Big Ten Title.
I am not sure Frost and Co ever get a top 10 class. I don't believe they need to have a top 10 class though. Getting consistently top 15 classes will do the trick. Getting 11 or 12 4 stars will get them a top 12-15 class.
There is a lot of talent in the region (500 mile radius) next year and we are in good shape with some highly rated kids. Like mentioned above, we probably won't have the numbers to recruit in the Top 10, but it still has the potential to be a special class.
Next years class will have around 22-25 scholarships according to the local newspaper that did some research. That is if we sign 29 in this class.
If we can just improve a little each year and win on the field then they can move up a little each year and if this staff can get into the range of 9-14 in recruiting rankings then they can be a real contender.
If we can just improve a little each year and win on the field then they can move up a little each year and if this staff can get into the range of 9-14 in recruiting rankings then they can be a real contender.
Two things:
1.) we actually are looking at a class of 25 again from what I was reading. @Tuco Salamanca is always the guy that knows the exact numbers, but it won't be a "small" class by any means, it just won't be 30.
2.) It is correct to say that we don't need a top 10 class to get to the NC game, but we do need to get a couple of years of top 20 classes to do it. Sure, it would be great to do what Alabama does and just have the #1 class every year, but you don't have to do that to run the table, you just have to have a "great" few years of recruiting, plus good coaching, development, and scheme.
1.) we actually are looking at a class of 25 again from what I was reading. @Tuco Salamanca is always the guy that knows the exact numbers, but it won't be a "small" class by any means, it just won't be 30.
2.) It is correct to say that we don't need a top 10 class to get to the NC game, but we do need to get a couple of years of top 20 classes to do it. Sure, it would be great to do what Alabama does and just have the #1 class every year, but you don't have to do that to run the table, you just have to have a "great" few years of recruiting, plus good coaching, development, and scheme.
I only count 16 scholarship seniors on our roster next year. I'm sure there will be some attrition, but not sure how we will find 9 more spots. Especially when some walk-ons like Warner will likely get scholarships too.
I think the number for next year will be 22+3, then adjust to the inevitable attrition
Either the LJS or World Herald wrote about this the other day; it isn't just your seniors, it has to do with weird back-counting too. @Tuco Salamanca broke it all down once. It doesn't SEEM like it's that complicated, but its basically like trying to come up with a solid number based on a target that gets its total from two different places, plus keeps moving. So, its weird.
I think Tuco was right, its supposed to be a class of around 22 plus the over-signs. So, that's not THAT small.
Regardless it will be interesting to see how many in-state kids we offer in the 2020 class. We've offered Betts and Watts, but there are a couple others who could be good prospects but aren't highly rated. With the big class this year, we were able to take a kid like Snodgrass, that we might not have taken if we only had 20 scholarships to give.
Don't expect Nebraska to sign a Top 10 class very often. Geography alone makes that extremely difficult. Recruits from Nebraska and bordering states are not going to be as heavily scouted or highly ranked, compared to their peers in California, Texas, and Florida. Northerners also do not have year-round football, nor do they face as high of competition. Lincoln and Omaha are also not major TV markets, so there isn't going to be as much hype about a recruit coming from, or going to, Nebraska.
Even when Nebraska was winning championships, it wasn't as sexy of a destination as some other schools. Recruits from major metro areas still think Nebraska plays ball in a cornfield, and students ride cows to class. Which is weird, because Tuscaloosa, Alabama is quite a bit smaller than Lincoln.
With that said, recruiting a Top 15 class every year, plus the walk-on program, plus excellent coaching can still make Nebraska a contender. The trick is to do that consistently, and have some coaching stability, so the players can actually thrive.
Even when Nebraska was winning championships, it wasn't as sexy of a destination as some other schools. Recruits from major metro areas still think Nebraska plays ball in a cornfield, and students ride cows to class. Which is weird, because Tuscaloosa, Alabama is quite a bit smaller than Lincoln.
With that said, recruiting a Top 15 class every year, plus the walk-on program, plus excellent coaching can still make Nebraska a contender. The trick is to do that consistently, and have some coaching stability, so the players can actually thrive.
Yup!
I'd say you can even stretch that to top 20 classes and you'll still be a major contender, in our situation.
Recall that Wisconsin has done wonders and we've out-recruited them pretty much always. Frost has specifically pointed to them as a team that simply stuck to their system and it paid off in the end, and that "we used to do that."
If we're landing classes between #10-#20 every year for the next 3-4 years, expect to see us start to seriously dominate on the field. Also, are we talking Rivals or 247 Sports? We're #19 on Rivals right now.
I think you are broadly correct but....
1. Football is much more specialized and more competitive than it used to be= players are groomed from a young age to be college/professional athletes= kids are less likely to go to a school for good weather, girls, and accolades.
2. Urban areas are extremely stressful and distracting= combined with the above specialization players just may not see the point of being close to atlanta, miami, LA...their job is to play football, and if they screw up they waste their opportunity.
3. Social media has made the world smaller= a place like Lincoln used to appear boring= but with social media a football player can meet anybody they want to on campus..so an area with 1 million people is comparable to an area with 20 million people...they don't have enough time in the day. NBA basketball players used to go to a club for fun, so the most attractive cities were L.A, Miami...but it is much easier just to hookup on social media and meet at a hotel for "fun". And players rarely club now, and we see free agents signing in Okie city, Toronto, Cleveland...This applies to all other sports as well.
The proof is in the pudding...we had a historically bad team last year, with a huge amount of transfers and bad optics up until about 8 weeks ago. Remember when we were 0-6 and were beaten in all our national televised games? And all of sudden we are able to get signatures from top talent from over 1500 miles away...with a few to go. We were able to beat top teams in recruiting because of the staff and the culture in Lincoln...and we haven't won in 20 years. Imagine what will happen if we pop a BCS bowl! I think many of us live in the mindset of the 90s-2000s...guys want fun, girls, parties and then football. The culture has changed...a lot of guys want family but...opportunity, relationship with coaches, a chance at the NFL, winning, and some fun.