I know some of you could add more insight and or suggest good material to read regarding this historic event.
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calling @Tom McAndrew , phone call on white courtesy line, early US history thread needs immediate attentionI know some of you could add more insight and or suggest good material to read regarding this historic event.
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Is there a parade?I know some of you could add more insight and or suggest good material to read regarding this historic event.
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Thanks Tom!#SubjectLinesMatter
Most historians of the American Revolution would not consider this the "249th Anniversary of the Lee Resolution." It's far more nuanced than that.
Richard Henry Lee, a delegate to the Second Continental Congress, introduced a resolution in Congress on June 7, 1776. The text of the resolution was as follows:
"Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved. That it is expedient forthwith to take the most effectual measures for forming foreign Alliances. That a plan of confederation be prepared and transmitted to the respective Colonies for their consideration and approbation."
As such, the resolution proposed three parts:
- declare independence from Britain
- form foreign alliances
- set up a governing confederation of the colonies/states
The members of Congress did not feel they were ready to vote on the resolution at the time it was introduced. (A combo of 1) some delegations wanting feedback from their respective colonies, 2) a concern as to whether it would pass at that time, and 3) a desire that if they took the steps that the resolution advocated that the vote in favor be unanimous.) So they deferred consideration of the resolution until July 2. However, they did set up three committees to deal with the parts of the resolution.
On July 2nd, Congress did meet as a whole, and approved the 1st part of the resolution. The vote was unanimous, but only so because New York abstained. They were under instructions to not vote for independence, and did not received approval to do so from the New York Convention until July 9, 1776. Also, note that the vote by the delegates was not unanimous. Each delegate would cast a vote, but then their votes were tallied by the colony they represented. Each colony got one vote, which was dictated by how their collective delegates voted.) John Adams (delegate from Massachusetts who went on to become the 2nd President of the USA) was euphoric about the vote, and wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorial epoch in the history of America. (He was off by 2 days.)
The 2nd part of the resolution (forming treaties with foreign countries) was not approved until September of 1776. The 3rd part of the resolution (setting up a governing confederation) was not approved until November of 1777.
The Lee Resolution is well known, and considered important in US history. Most historians treat June 7 (the date the resolution was introduced by Lee) as a date to celebrate. (I meant to post something about the Lee Resolution this past June 7, but never got to it.)
Yeah, I had known that June 7, 1776 was an important date leading up to the DoI, but didn’t quite make the connection in this thread.#SubjectLinesMatter
Most historians of the American Revolution would not consider this the "249th Anniversary of the Lee Resolution." It's far more nuanced than that.
Richard Henry Lee, a delegate to the Second Continental Congress, introduced a resolution in Congress on June 7, 1776. The text of the resolution was as follows:
"Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved. That it is expedient forthwith to take the most effectual measures for forming foreign Alliances. That a plan of confederation be prepared and transmitted to the respective Colonies for their consideration and approbation."
As such, the resolution proposed three parts:
- declare independence from Britain
- form foreign alliances
- set up a governing confederation of the colonies/states
The members of Congress did not feel they were ready to vote on the resolution at the time it was introduced. (A combo of 1) some delegations wanting feedback from their respective colonies, 2) a concern as to whether it would pass at that time, and 3) a desire that if they took the steps that the resolution advocated that the vote in favor be unanimous.) So they deferred consideration of the resolution until July 2. However, they did set up three committees to deal with the parts of the resolution.
On July 2nd, Congress did meet as a whole, and approved the 1st part of the resolution. The vote was unanimous, but only so because New York abstained. They were under instructions to not vote for independence, and did not received approval to do so from the New York Convention until July 9, 1776. Also, note that the vote by the delegates was not unanimous. Each delegate would cast a vote, but then their votes were tallied by the colony they represented. Each colony got one vote, which was dictated by how their collective delegates voted.) John Adams (delegate from Massachusetts who went on to become the 2nd President of the USA) was euphoric about the vote, and wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorial epoch in the history of America. (He was off by 2 days.)
The 2nd part of the resolution (forming treaties with foreign countries) was not approved until September of 1776. The 3rd part of the resolution (setting up a governing confederation) was not approved until November of 1777.
The Lee Resolution is well known, and considered important in US history. Most historians treat June 7 (the date the resolution was introduced by Lee) as a date to celebrate. (I meant to post something about the Lee Resolution this past June 7, but never got to it.)
#tomknowshissht#SubjectLinesMatter
Most historians of the American Revolution would not consider this the "249th Anniversary of the Lee Resolution." It's far more nuanced than that.
Richard Henry Lee, a delegate to the Second Continental Congress, introduced a resolution in Congress on June 7, 1776. The text of the resolution was as follows:
"Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved. That it is expedient forthwith to take the most effectual measures for forming foreign Alliances. That a plan of confederation be prepared and transmitted to the respective Colonies for their consideration and approbation."
As such, the resolution proposed three parts:
- declare independence from Britain
- form foreign alliances
- set up a governing confederation of the colonies/states
The members of Congress did not feel they were ready to vote on the resolution at the time it was introduced. (A combo of 1) some delegations wanting feedback from their respective colonies, 2) a concern as to whether it would pass at that time, and 3) a desire that if they took the steps that the resolution advocated that the vote in favor be unanimous.) So they deferred consideration of the resolution until July 2. However, they did set up three committees to deal with the parts of the resolution.
On July 2nd, Congress did meet as a whole, and approved the 1st part of the resolution. The vote was unanimous, but only so because New York abstained. They were under instructions to not vote for independence, and did not received approval to do so from the New York Convention until July 9, 1776. Also, note that the vote by the delegates was not unanimous. Each delegate would cast a vote, but then their votes were tallied by the colony they represented. Each colony got one vote, which was dictated by how their collective delegates voted.) John Adams (delegate from Massachusetts who went on to become the 2nd President of the USA) was euphoric about the vote, and wrote that July 2 would be celebrated as the most memorial epoch in the history of America. (He was off by 2 days.)
The 2nd part of the resolution (forming treaties with foreign countries) was not approved until September of 1776. The 3rd part of the resolution (setting up a governing confederation) was not approved until November of 1777.
The Lee Resolution is well known, and considered important in US history. Most historians treat June 7 (the date the resolution was introduced by Lee) as a date to celebrate. (I meant to post something about the Lee Resolution this past June 7, but never got to it.)
Watched Gettysburg day 2, of the 1993 movie tonight. Such a great movie and no cgi etc. the seen with chamberlain, the desperation of the charge was amazing.Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain's big day. Rest easy, sir.