4K TVs
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My FIL has one. I don't find it that much better, than the current high end TVs. If you are over 10ft away from it, it looks about the same too me. They are too expensive right now for me to justify the upgrade.
Plus I read that there isn't a ton of programming in 4K yet anyway, and internet streaming (netflix, etc.) won't catch up anytime soon because of the amount of data it takes.
What I do find cool is his TV is curved. You definitely see it better if you get stuck viewing from the corner of the couch or something, but who is going to set on the side of their TV to view it?? If you want to please you buddy that always get the corner seat then get one, I guess.
Over father's day we were all watching the US Open and the FIL sat on the corner of the couch and said, wow I can really see this from here. It was the first time he had even watched it from a different angle and he's had it for 6 months.
Plus I read that there isn't a ton of programming in 4K yet anyway, and internet streaming (netflix, etc.) won't catch up anytime soon because of the amount of data it takes.
What I do find cool is his TV is curved. You definitely see it better if you get stuck viewing from the corner of the couch or something, but who is going to set on the side of their TV to view it?? If you want to please you buddy that always get the corner seat then get one, I guess.
Over father's day we were all watching the US Open and the FIL sat on the corner of the couch and said, wow I can really see this from here. It was the first time he had even watched it from a different angle and he's had it for 6 months.
Love my 4k but I went from SD to a 4K so how much better it is then 1080p I don't really know. What I do love is the first time in my life I am ahead of the curve on TV technology. Which is awesome because it looks like directv and dish might soon offer 4k. When I notice the biggest difference is when I watch my nature shows the blues and greens really pop.
I have been in the market for a new TV so I have been doing some research on this exact thing. I compared LCD, OLED, and 4K TV's (plasma is dead and most manufacturers are not even making them anymore. Which is sad because you could not get a better refresh rate than plasma). The conclusion is that it REALLY depends on viewing distance. A 55" TV at 8 - 10 feet is what I was looking at. Within 8 feet the OLED and 4K TV were close but noticeable difference edging toward 4K being better. Over 10 feet and it was no comparison that the OLED was better. 4K works, and was really developed, for very large screens from far away. Combine that with the fact that not a lot of programing being developed in 4K and OLED is probably going to be my choice unless I just find a great deal on a 4K UHD. I think 4K programming is coming considering the compression, but about 3 - 5 years from truly being adopted as a standard. Remember that you cannot scrimp on other things just for the OLED or 4K sticker. You still need consider brightness, contrast ratio, refresh rates, etc. in order to really get a great viewing experience.
Just having a smart TV was worth the upgrade. Also I was very lucky and bought the TV on black Friday so I got the tv for about what a 1080p smart tv would go for.
Netflix is now offering 4k content but you need to be subscribed to their highest plan:
http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-content-guide-what-to-watch-in-4k-today/
Bville is right about distance. just know that todays tvs refresh faster than the human eye can process so at certain distances we cant see a difference in the picture. what we do see is the brightness, color, and total picture movement. So most Tv's will look exactly the same on most cable broadcasts. Also know that 4k video processors are the best in the biz so you should expect some of the best overall picture quality. the one thing about 4k's is they are still LED tvs. LED TV's are just LCD tvs that are back-lit. they still suffer a much slower refresh rate than plasmas. if you are lucky enough to have a Panasonic Plasma from 2012 and on, hang on to it as long as you can. Plasma are still the very BEST when it comes to watching sports and that is not even a close debate.
http://www.cnet.com/news/4k-content-guide-what-to-watch-in-4k-today/
Bville is right about distance. just know that todays tvs refresh faster than the human eye can process so at certain distances we cant see a difference in the picture. what we do see is the brightness, color, and total picture movement. So most Tv's will look exactly the same on most cable broadcasts. Also know that 4k video processors are the best in the biz so you should expect some of the best overall picture quality. the one thing about 4k's is they are still LED tvs. LED TV's are just LCD tvs that are back-lit. they still suffer a much slower refresh rate than plasmas. if you are lucky enough to have a Panasonic Plasma from 2012 and on, hang on to it as long as you can. Plasma are still the very BEST when it comes to watching sports and that is not even a close debate.
You won't for awhile. That is sooooo much data. However, you can benefit from the extra pixel density in your general viewing.
I remember the first plasma tv I saw at an electronics store in L.A. I think the salesman said it best: "It's like looking through a freshly washed window."
TV's used the same basic technology (with the upgrade of solid state from tubes, but the CRT still remained as the primary component) for nearly 60+ years, and now they're on a whole other plane. But then again, most cell phones today actually have more computing power than the first two generations of the Cray SuperComputer. I can only imagine how another 15 yrs is going to change the equation. (Perhaps Kentucky Fried Movie had it right, in another decade we may get to watch TV in "feel around")
TV's used the same basic technology (with the upgrade of solid state from tubes, but the CRT still remained as the primary component) for nearly 60+ years, and now they're on a whole other plane. But then again, most cell phones today actually have more computing power than the first two generations of the Cray SuperComputer. I can only imagine how another 15 yrs is going to change the equation. (Perhaps Kentucky Fried Movie had it right, in another decade we may get to watch TV in "feel around")
I don't own one personally, but have one that I use in my office. 4K content is coming. This is not like 3D which never took off, 4K channels are coming in the not too distant future. The reason that have not been launched sooner is that only about 11% of households own a 4K capable set and only about 1% of households have a cable/satellite set-top box that supports 4K. Most cable operators just started deploying 4K STBs this year.
Netflix will have 4K content faster I would assume. However, that is going to cause issues at many customers homes. Most broadband providers have usage caps. And thanks to FCC and Obama behind "net neutrality" you will see broadband providers start charging for overages in the next few months. That is a problem because 4K content will be bandwidth intensive and could cause customers to exceed their bandwidth usage allowances.
Netflix will have 4K content faster I would assume. However, that is going to cause issues at many customers homes. Most broadband providers have usage caps. And thanks to FCC and Obama behind "net neutrality" you will see broadband providers start charging for overages in the next few months. That is a problem because 4K content will be bandwidth intensive and could cause customers to exceed their bandwidth usage allowances.
There are third party software companies that are quickly coming out with new compression technologies that allow 4K to take up about 50% less bandwidth than it does right now. If one of those is proved out we will see a massive rush to 4K content streaming.
True B-ville, but we are still talking a huge amount more bandwidth.
HEVC is the latest video compression coding. It doubles the efficiency over MPEG-2 which was double the efficiency of MPEG-2.
But 4K still takes a lot more bandwidth. Netflix, for instance, recommends 3 Mbps for standard def, 5 Mbps for HD, and 25 Mbps for 4K.
Interesting fact, raw broadband consumption has increased 50% or more, year over year, since 2009
HEVC is the latest video compression coding. It doubles the efficiency over MPEG-2 which was double the efficiency of MPEG-2.
But 4K still takes a lot more bandwidth. Netflix, for instance, recommends 3 Mbps for standard def, 5 Mbps for HD, and 25 Mbps for 4K.
Interesting fact, raw broadband consumption has increased 50% or more, year over year, since 2009
Back when I bought my plasma 1080p was just coming into the mainstream. I thought I remember seeing information when I did the research that you would have to be really close to the TV for the human eye to notice a difference between 720 and 1080. Is this true? If so then can the human eye really tell that much difference with the 4K or is it just another way to get us to buy a new TV?
Well for me it just boils down to this. Plasma is on its way out. OLED is still really expensive and out of my price range for the size I want. Manufacturers are scaling back on 1080p production and increasing UHD production. 4K is here to stay. Price points may come down in a year, but in a 1-3 years this discussion will be moot.
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