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8 year attendance average for potential B12 invitees

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doneagain

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I realize attendance would increase if they were to join the B12, but it to me is a good indicator of fan support and growth potential to look at attendance over a significant period of time. That way, you can see past one-year spikes in attendance when they have an exceptionally good year or unusually poor year.


Colorado State
2007 - 21794
2008 - 21008
2009 - 23643
2010 - 22400
2011 - 21867
2012 - 19250
2013 - 18600
2014 - 26575

BYU
2007 - 64497
2008 - 64102
2009 - 64236
2010 - 61381
2011 - 60265
2012 - 61161
2013 - 61225
2014 - 57141

CINCINNATI
2007 - 30246
2008 - 31965
2009 - 33957
2010 - 35067
2011 - 32293
2012 - 29138
2013 - 31771
2014 - 28840

UCF
2007 - 44018
2008 - 39596
2009 - 38078
2010 - 39618
2011 - 34283
2012 - 34608
2013 - 42084
2014 - 37812

USF
2007 - 53170
2008 - 49690
2009 - 52553
2010 - 40849
2011 - 44550
2012 - 44130
2013 - 34702
2014 - 30694

UConn
2007 - 38205
2008 - 39331
2009 - 38229
2010 - 38248
2011 - 36668
2012 - 34672
2013 - 30932
2014 - 27461

HOUSTON
2007 - 20955
2008 - 21518
2009 - 25242
2010 - 31728
2011 - 31731
2012 - 27247
2013 - 24256
2014 - 28311

MEMPHIS
2007 - 29670
2008 - 25003
2009 - 25795
2010 - 23918
2011 - 20078
2012 - 24371
2013 - 28537
2014 - 33851

EAST CAROLINA
2007 - 41537
2008 - 42016
2009 - 41742
2010 - 49665
2011 - 50012
2012 - 47013
2013 - 43985
2014 - 44786

BOISE STATE
2007 - 30338
2008 - 32375
2009 - 32782
2010 - 33269
2011 - 34018
2012 - 35404
2013 - 34366
2014 - 32504
 
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CTOkie

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doneagain said:
I realize attendance would increase if they were to join the B12, but it to me is a good indicator of fan support and growth potential to look at attendance over a significant period of time. That way, you can see past one-year spikes in attendance when they have an exceptionally good year or unusually poor year.


Colorado State
2007 - 21794
2008 - 21008
2009 - 23643
2010 - 22400
2011 - 21867
2012 - 19250
2013 - 18600
2014 - 26575

BYU
2007 - 64497
2008 - 64102
2009 - 64236
2010 - 61381
2011 - 60265
2012 - 61161
2013 - 61225
2014 - 57141

CINCINNATI
2007 - 30246
2008 - 31965
2009 - 33957
2010 - 35067
2011 - 32293
2012 - 29138
2013 - 31771
2014 - 28840

UCF
2007 - 44018
2008 - 39596
2009 - 38078
2010 - 39618
2011 - 34283
2012 - 34608
2013 - 42084
2014 - 37812

USF
2007 - 53170
2008 - 49690
2009 - 52553
2010 - 40849
2011 - 44550
2012 - 44130
2013 - 34702
2014 - 30694

UConn
2007 - 38205
2008 - 39331
2009 - 38229
2010 - 38248
2011 - 36668
2012 - 34672
2013 - 30932
2014 - 27461

HOUSTON
2007 - 20955
2008 - 21518
2009 - 25242
2010 - 31728
2011 - 31731
2012 - 27247
2013 - 24256
2014 - 28311

MEMPHIS
2007 - 29670
2008 - 25003
2009 - 25795
2010 - 23918
2011 - 20078
2012 - 24371
2013 - 28537
2014 - 33851

EAST CAROLINA
2007 - 41537
2008 - 42016
2009 - 41742
2010 - 49665
2011 - 50012
2012 - 47013
2013 - 43985
2014 - 44786

BOISE STATE
2007 - 30338
2008 - 32375
2009 - 32782
2010 - 33269
2011 - 34018
2012 - 35404
2013 - 34366
2014 - 32504
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The addition of any of these teams will not save the Big Not-So-12, not when considering distance and brand name appeal.
 
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MiccoMacey

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If that's who we're aiming at bringing in, count me out. Probably good teams with good fans, but not only do they add no real revenue to the conference, they probably decrease everybody else's share.
 
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DubiousDon

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Based on attendance figures, the teams that would "fit" with the Conference are ... surprise, surprise ... BYU and East Carolina. Anybody want either?

By the way, where the hell is East Carolina?
 
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Plainosooner_rivals54053

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BW, you may be right. But BYU will never be in the conference. If they could be, they already would be. I do believe however that if Colorado State came into the conference, they'd build a quality following. They're at least as good as Colorado. And there are those in the area that would rather watch Big XII football than Pac 12.
 
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Tuloma

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doneagain said:
I realize attendance would increase if they were to join the B12, but it to me is a good indicator of fan support and growth potential to look at attendance over a significant period of time. That way, you can see past one-year spikes in attendance when they have an exceptionally good year or unusually poor year.


Colorado State
2007 - 21794
2008 - 21008
2009 - 23643
2010 - 22400
2011 - 21867
2012 - 19250
2013 - 18600
2014 - 26575

BYU
2007 - 64497
2008 - 64102
2009 - 64236
2010 - 61381
2011 - 60265
2012 - 61161
2013 - 61225
2014 - 57141

CINCINNATI
2007 - 30246
2008 - 31965
2009 - 33957
2010 - 35067
2011 - 32293
2012 - 29138
2013 - 31771
2014 - 28840

UCF
2007 - 44018
2008 - 39596
2009 - 38078
2010 - 39618
2011 - 34283
2012 - 34608
2013 - 42084
2014 - 37812

USF
2007 - 53170
2008 - 49690
2009 - 52553
2010 - 40849
2011 - 44550
2012 - 44130
2013 - 34702
2014 - 30694

UConn
2007 - 38205
2008 - 39331
2009 - 38229
2010 - 38248
2011 - 36668
2012 - 34672
2013 - 30932
2014 - 27461

HOUSTON
2007 - 20955
2008 - 21518
2009 - 25242
2010 - 31728
2011 - 31731
2012 - 27247
2013 - 24256
2014 - 28311

MEMPHIS
2007 - 29670
2008 - 25003
2009 - 25795
2010 - 23918
2011 - 20078
2012 - 24371
2013 - 28537
2014 - 33851

EAST CAROLINA
2007 - 41537
2008 - 42016
2009 - 41742
2010 - 49665
2011 - 50012
2012 - 47013
2013 - 43985
2014 - 44786

BOISE STATE
2007 - 30338
2008 - 32375
2009 - 32782
2010 - 33269
2011 - 34018
2012 - 35404
2013 - 34366
2014 - 32504
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Attendance figures are usually very inflated and are not attendance at all, but tickets distributed......that is tickets sold and given away etc
 
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runningback43

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doneagain said:
I realize attendance would increase if they were to join the B12, but it to me is a good indicator of fan support and growth potential to look at attendance over a significant period of time. That way, you can see past one-year spikes in attendance when they have an exceptionally good year or unusually poor year.


Colorado State
2007 - 21794
2008 - 21008
2009 - 23643
2010 - 22400
2011 - 21867
2012 - 19250
2013 - 18600
2014 - 26575

BYU
2007 - 64497
2008 - 64102
2009 - 64236
2010 - 61381
2011 - 60265
2012 - 61161
2013 - 61225
2014 - 57141

CINCINNATI
2007 - 30246
2008 - 31965
2009 - 33957
2010 - 35067
2011 - 32293
2012 - 29138
2013 - 31771
2014 - 28840

UCF
2007 - 44018
2008 - 39596
2009 - 38078
2010 - 39618
2011 - 34283
2012 - 34608
2013 - 42084
2014 - 37812

USF
2007 - 53170
2008 - 49690
2009 - 52553
2010 - 40849
2011 - 44550
2012 - 44130
2013 - 34702
2014 - 30694

UConn
2007 - 38205
2008 - 39331
2009 - 38229
2010 - 38248
2011 - 36668
2012 - 34672
2013 - 30932
2014 - 27461

HOUSTON
2007 - 20955
2008 - 21518
2009 - 25242
2010 - 31728
2011 - 31731
2012 - 27247
2013 - 24256
2014 - 28311

MEMPHIS
2007 - 29670
2008 - 25003
2009 - 25795
2010 - 23918
2011 - 20078
2012 - 24371
2013 - 28537
2014 - 33851

EAST CAROLINA
2007 - 41537
2008 - 42016
2009 - 41742
2010 - 49665
2011 - 50012
2012 - 47013
2013 - 43985
2014 - 44786

BOISE STATE
2007 - 30338
2008 - 32375
2009 - 32782
2010 - 33269
2011 - 34018
2012 - 35404
2013 - 34366
2014 - 32504
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How big are their stadiums? I have been to two games at Colorado State, and their stadium is not very big at all. All of these schools would have to increase the size of their stadium in order to become members of the Big XII and then somehow find a way to sell more tickets.
 
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BillyRay_rivals31072

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CTOkie said:
The addition of any of these teams will not save the Big Not-So-12, not when considering distance and brand name appeal.
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That's true CT, but in the end the Big XII is gonna invite someone. There are really no great options. There are only the "best" of what's out there, which isn't really saying much. But I think if inviting a couple of the teams on that list can actually save the Big XII and help improve it, then I think instead of looking at those programs past attendance, we should look at what joining the Big XII can do to improve their programs attendance and overall quality of their respective football programs. I think that kind of longterm future outlook will save the Big XII in the long run.
 
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CTOkie

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BillyRay said:
That's true CT, but in the end the Big XII is gonna invite someone. There are really no great options. There are only the "best" of what's out there, which isn't really saying much. But I think if inviting a couple of the teams on that list can actually save the Big XII and help improve it, then I think instead of looking at those programs past attendance, we should look at what joining the Big XII can do to improve their programs attendance and overall quality of their respective football programs. I think that kind of longterm future outlook will save the Big XII in the long run.
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I hope you're right.
But something that has not yet been mentioned is having OU taking care of its own business and performing at a dominate level each year, regardless of what the conference does or does not do. OU still has its "brand name" among the elite programs and I believe it would be a good scenario for OU to be the best Big 12 (or not-so-12) team, much like Ohio State is in the Big 10 or Alabama in the SEC, even if the rest of the conference teams were to fall into mediocrity.
This is a realistic wish on my part.
 
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