A lot of people sure are quiet today.

18IsTheMan

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If China is foolish enough to not negotiate then they get isolated.
China needs our market more than we need theirs and it's their people who truly get hurt not ours.
Others will step up to supply our market with affordable goods.

If you haven't noticed, when you wait for the final result, Trump is proven to be right most of the time.
Right. The Chinese economy is already in a tight spot. Even a brief shutdown in exports to the US could be almost crippling.

Trump 2.0 has turned the Democrat party inside out. They are now warmongers advocating for endless war in Ukraine. They now openly call for a return of slavery in the United States. They demand that we support forced labor and slavery in China.
 
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Right. The Chinese economy is already in a tight spot. Even a brief shutdown in exports to the US could be almost crippling.

Trump 2.0 has turned the Democrat party inside out. They are now warmongers advocating for endless war in Ukraine. They now openly call for a return of slavery in the United States. They demand that we support forced labor and slavery in China.

It is very ironic.

Don't forget they're violently attacking an EV manufacturer that they idolized up intil a few months ago.
 
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Sorry, with 4 kids, I need a family car. My wife drives a mini-van. 100% of the American made mini-vans are crap. Ratings will verify. That said, most of these forgein companies are building in the US.
Lol, and all this time I thought you were a women
 

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If China is foolish enough to not negotiate then they get isolated.
China needs our market more than we need theirs and it's their people who truly get hurt not ours.
Others will step up to supply our market with affordable goods.

If you haven't noticed, when you wait for the final result, Trump is proven to be right most of the time.
Their people will certainly get hurt but they are communist and will absorb. As mentioned, there are no elections that Xi needs to be concerned with. I honestly don't believe they'll cave.

Secondly, you are naive if you think prices aren't going to substantially increase. Nobody is stepping up to make things as affordable as China. I work in contract manufacturing. We don't have the work force in the US that is willing to build many of the products that are built in China. Our only option is to attempt to automate. We struggle to find workers to produce high volume items (such as Iphones).

It's really irrelevant who gets hurt more. Bottom line, if we move forward, it's going to continue dragging down our financial markets, drive us into a recession and put many small businesses out. Who cares what it does to China.
 

18IsTheMan

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It is very ironic.

Don't forget they're violently attacking an EV manufacturer that they idolized up intil a few months ago.
lol, yes, forgot that one! Who’s old enough to remember when owning a Tesla was THE ultimate leftist status symbol? Even among EVs, it was the crème de la crème. If you saw a Tesla, you knew there was at least an 80% chance that a pink haired baby murderer she-male was driving it. Saw a video last week of a lib congressman proudly showing off his new huge gas guzzling SUV he purchased after ditching his Tesla in protest. You seriously can’t make up this level of irony. It’s delicious and beautiful.
 
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I haven't weighed in on this yet, but I'll say this and nothing else.

I started investing back in the early 1980s with a couple of mutual funds - just getting my feet wet. Beginning in 1986, I began investing in equities regularly using an IRA. I have been buying systematically ever since. At 74 years of age, I'm still buying and expect to be buying as long as I live.

This approach has served me well through a couple of recessions, plus the banking crisis. My only regret is that I wasn't in a position to start sooner. This has been an opportunistic moment for the stalwart investor - the person who doesn't lose his s____t over temporary vicissitudes.
 

18IsTheMan

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I haven't weighed in on this yet, but I'll say this and nothing else.

I started investing back in the early 1980s with a couple of mutual funds - just getting my feet wet. Beginning in 1986, I began investing in equities regularly using an IRA. I have been buying systematically ever since. At 74 years of age, I'm still buying and expect to be buying as long as I live.

This approach has served me well through a couple of recessions, plus the banking crisis. My only regret is that I wasn't in a position to start sooner. This has been an opportunistic moment for the stalwart investor - the person who doesn't lose his s____t over temporary vicissitudes.
This is why Warren Buffett said most people are not emotionally stable enough to invest. If you plan to lose your junk over every single day or short-term fluctuation, you need to find something else to do with your money.
 
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Viennacock

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I haven't weighed in on this yet, but I'll say this and nothing else.

I started investing back in the early 1980s with a couple of mutual funds - just getting my feet wet. Beginning in 1986, I began investing in equities regularly using an IRA. I have been buying systematically ever since. At 74 years of age, I'm still buying and expect to be buying as long as I live.

This approach has served me well through a couple of recessions, plus the banking crisis. My only regret is that I wasn't in a position to start sooner. This has been an opportunistic moment for the stalwart investor - the person who doesn't lose his s____t over temporary vicissitudes.
Same here. I'm about 20 years younger than you but started back around 1984. My father got me started young. We live relatively conservatively. I'll never spend the money we currently have built-up. I have my kids college paid for through a 529. My oldest fortunately just signed paperwork for a scholarship to play a college sport. I guess I'll need to roll those dollars to my future grandkids 529.
 
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KingWard

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This is why Warren Buffett said most people are not emotionally stable enough to invest. If you plan to lose your junk over every single day or short-term fluctuation, you need to find something else to do with your money.
Exxxxactly!
 

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Hey Chris and Shoe I saw where you put an announcement out that if there was political discussions on the forum that you would stop it and start checking those individuals posts etc? What about this thread??
 

Lurker123

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Hey Chris and Shoe I saw where you put an announcement out that if there was political discussions on the forum that you would stop it and start checking those individuals posts etc? What about this thread??

Seems they felt it hadn't degraded enough to bother.