A whole week without an expansion thread?

[skygusty_rivals]

Yeah, we thought we would be excited about WVU football by now. Well there is always next week. Rumor has it that the BIG12 will not stop at 4 schools. 2-4 more may be invited down the road. This will bring Memphis, Boise St. USF Tulane and Colorado State into the discussion again, maybe even San Diego State. I am not a big fan of a coast to coast league but if we can have divisions or pods that minimizes travel, who knows. One or two guys are still pumping the WVU to the ACC pump.

Also looking for the Big 12 to help with exit fees for the 3 AAC schools. It will be deducted over 3 seasons or so, those 3 still get an increase in revenue even at a reduced rate until the buyout is paid and they can get out. Pretty much what the Big12 did for WVU and TCU. This will work the same way with Oklahoma and Texas, for some or all of the fee, however they want to do it they already have more money than sense. You would think that both those schools will still be making more money than they are in the BIG12 and the SEC is going to have stupid money available. These are not insurmountable obstacles.

 

[atlanta_eer]

Add whoever we need to in order to keep the conference alive - as long as WVU doesn't sign a GOR or anything else obligating us to stay should another opportunity arise. We need to resist that at every turn....

 

[WVUALLEN]

The new BIGAAC 12-2=10-2=8+8=16

A pile of cow manure.

While BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, Boise St, USF, Colorado State make more money Teams such as WVU, OSU, TCU, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas, ISU and Kansas State will make less money.

 

[Buckaineer]

Many think the eight will make the invitation for the new four by the end of this week.

Also expected that the conference will maintain P5 status beyond the current expiration of contracts.

Agree with the sentiment not to lock in a GOR unless its maybe a five year deal- no long term low pay bs.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

CSU campus looks cool...fun road trip but I doubt I'd ever be going anyways.

Boise from a football perspective is good, but just another western team...SDSU , no way.

Tulane seems batshit crazy....

Memphis just feels too weak...USF same

Id keep it at 4, 12 total.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Id do Navy/Air Force before any of those options...at least you are adding schools with some kind of value.

 

[Tylerite]

WVU to the SEC, bookmarket!

 

[The Bell Tolls for Thee]

I think it's stupid to add Houston. Get BYU, Cincy, UCF, and Memphis. That's it. No other schools add enough value and they'll always be there if the Big 12 really needs extra members. With the Big XII having the teams mentioned, they would have options to add ACC schools when that conference inevitably gets raided. An ACC minus Clemson, Florida State, and UNC is a worse football and money making conference than the Big 12 with its 8 members and the 4 I mentioned at the start.

 

[Tylerite]

I think it's stupid to add Houston. Get BYU, Cincy, UCF, and Memphis. That's it. No other schools add enough value and they'll always be there if the Big 12 really needs extra members. With the Big XII having the teams mentioned, they would have options to add ACC schools when that conference inevitably gets raided. An ACC minus Clemson, Florida State, and UNC is a worse football and money making conference than the Big 12 with its 8 members and the 4 I mentioned at the start.

I don’t think the ACC will get raided

 

[oceantide83]

Never fear! Gold & Blue Dude is here!

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

CSU campus looks cool...fun road trip but I doubt I'd ever be going anyways.

Boise from a football perspective is good, but just another western team...SDSU , no way.

Tulane seems batshit crazy....

Memphis just feels too weak...USF same

Id keep it at 4, 12 total.

Boise is a Nokia Cell Phone. Why they get any attention since 2007 is beyond me. Total garbage school with a gimmick turf. They remind me of powerbots.

 

[mountaineermaniac34]

Never fear! Gold & Blue Dude is here!

I heard a guy blame Coach Nehlen for Steve Slaton fumbling the ball. This 119 from Charleston to Logan fart is worse

 

[steeleer]

That is the first time I have bothered to watch Gold and Blue Dude.

I immediately regret my decision.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

That is the first time I have bothered to watch Gold and Blue Dude.

I immediately regret my decision.

Yeah, he is still beating the ACC drum. Dude knows people behind the scenes. Right.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

I have heard a rumor of conference divisions into East and West. Somehow Iowa isn't in the East but both Kansas schools are. This is the speculation.
EAST
Cincy
WVU
UCF
Kansas
Kansas State
OKState
----
WEST
BYU
Houston
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
Iowa State

 

[Charleston Mountie]

I have heard a rumor of conference divisions into East and West. Somehow Iowa isn't in the East but both Kansas schools are. This is the speculation.
EAST
Cincy
WVU
UCF
Kansas
Kansas State
OKState
----
WEST
BYU
Houston
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
Iowa State

Iowa State and Oklahoma State need to be flipped. Oklahoma State is not going to be out of the Texas division because that is their sole recruiting ground from Oklahoma City to the Metroplex.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

Iowa State and Oklahoma State need to be flipped. Oklahoma State is not going to be out of the Texas division because that is their sole recruiting ground from Oklahoma City to the Metroplex.

With just 5 conference games within your division there is a lot of room to play several of the teams in the other division I guess. Would the East be as strong as the West if you switched those two? West would be pretty tough.

 

[Charleston Mountie]

With just 5 conference games within your division there is a lot of room to play several of the teams in the other division I guess. Would the East be as strong as the West if you switched those two? West would be pretty tough. These divisions would not play before 2023 and who knows what will happen by then? I do not think it matters on the power scale concerning who is where. This conference is basically 11 B or B+ teams and one D team. But, as poorly as some think of Kansas, Kansas is better than Vanderbilt, Stanford and Duke. Every conference has one of them, heck the Big Ten has Northwestern.

These divisions would not play before 2023 and by then who knows how strong some might be and might not be. But, as of right now, the Eastern division has the ranked teams - #7 Cincinnati and #9 Iowa State. No one in the west is ranked at all.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

With BYU in, and further expansion possibly including Memphis and Boise State, wouldn't it be worth an inquiry to Colorado? It would give BYU a travel partner and a contiguous link to other parts of the country and would be a better fit than Boise. The PAC12 is not exactly cruising without issues.

 

[Charleston Mountie]

With BYU in, and further expansion possibly including Memphis and Boise State, wouldn't it be worth an inquiry to Colorado? It would give BYU a travel partner and a contiguous link to other parts of the country and would be a better fit than Boise. The PAC12 is not exactly cruising without issues.

The feeling I got from the recent news is that every conference in the Alliance more or less committed to leaving everyone else alone especially the Big-12 so it could find its feet again. A lot of "experts" post stupid like WVU is ACC-bound, the Big-12 has lost its P5 status, the expansion has made the Big-12 a G5 conference, but these are not bright people saying these things. If you follow the history of these things, not a lot really happens. Schools leave, get replaced, the dust settles and life goes back to normal.

Colorado would be nice to have back, but really they are no better than any other team in the Big-12 right now. Same for Nebraska, Missouri or Arkansas. All of them are solid teams but none of them are Blue Bloods. Is there any difference between WWVU and Missouri? Baylor and Arkansas? Oklahoma State and Nebraska? TCU and Colorado? Other than a 90s run for Nebraska, all of those teams are equal to or less than the stature of the current Big-12 average.

As for BYU needing a travel partner, I think the thinking is that Boise State would be that travel partner. If we go to 16, Boise State would fall into the West division and when a Texas team visited BYU one year they would host Boise State that same year and then reverse it the next year. UCF needs a travel partner as well as USF is obvious for the same reason. I think it could happen that way, bring in Boise State in the west, Memphis and USF in the east. The only unanswered question would be who would be the 16th team for the West. I have heard SMU and Tulane mentioned and I would honestly be find with either but I like SMU better. But Tulane is an AAU member and there are only 2 others in the Big-12 right now, Kansas and Iowa State. Otherwise, Tulane and SMU are carbon copies of each other. Same size, in ever respect.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

The feeling I got from the recent news is that every conference in the Alliance more or less committed to leaving everyone else alone especially the Big-12 so it could find its feet again. A lot of "experts" post stupid like WVU is ACC-bound, the Big-12 has lost its P5 status, the expansion has made the Big-12 a G5 conference, but these are not bright people saying these things. If you follow the history of these things, not a lot really happens. Schools leave, get replaced, the dust settles and life goes back to normal.

Colorado would be nice to have back, but really they are no better than any other team in the Big-12 right now. Same for Nebraska, Missouri or Arkansas. All of them are solid teams but none of them are Blue Bloods. Is there any difference between WWVU and Missouri? Baylor and Arkansas? Oklahoma State and Nebraska? TCU and Colorado? Other than a 90s run for Nebraska, all of those teams are equal to or less than the stature of the current Big-12 average.

As for BYU needing a travel partner, I think the thinking is that Boise State would be that travel partner. If we go to 16, Boise State would fall into the West division and when a Texas team visited BYU one year they would host Boise State that same year and then reverse it the next year. UCF needs a travel partner as well as USF is obvious for the same reason. I think it could happen that way, bring in Boise State in the west, Memphis and USF in the east. The only unanswered question would be who would be the 16th team for the West. I have heard SMU and Tulane mentioned and I would honestly be find with either but I like SMU better. But Tulane is an AAU member and there are only 2 others in the Big-12 right now, Kansas and Iowa State. Otherwise, Tulane and SMU are carbon copies of each other. Same size, in ever respect.

The Denver TV market is about 12th in the country, Colorado or Colorado State would be better in this regard. Not feeling it for Boise, although Idaho is beautiful, not many people live there and I'm over that blue football field. Tulane over SMU, enough teams from Texas, Tulane gets the New Orleans area and Louisiana recruiting involved. They could be the leagues Vanderbilt. Fine with USF and Memphis, although I would probably prefer to not have two teams from Florida.

 

[skygusty_rivals]

Id do Navy/Air Force before any of those options...at least you are adding schools with some kind of value.

I do like Navy. Not many schools left in the east that could play in the BIG12 and bring some TV sets. Army probably brings the same. Divisional play might appeal to them. Who else is there besides Memphis and USF? Florida Atlantic? Coastal Carolina? ECU? Appalachian State? Midwest directional schools?