Actual Results DT.Okie State

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

I'm not convinced he's a threat yet.

These guys aren't improving yet either.


#4 125 Spratley 4-2
#19 133 Figueroa 1-3 (Former NC)
#22 149 Swiderski 1-4
#14 174 Facundo 4-3
#13 184 Ryder 4-3

 

[Misalorales]

I'm not convinced he's a threat yet.

These guys aren't improving yet either.


#4 125 Spratley 4-2
#19 133 Figueroa 1-3 (Former NC)
#22 149 Swiderski 1-4
#14 174 Facundo 4-3
#13 184 Ryder 4-3

It's not the transfers, outside of Ryder I guess, that he's building the "they" with. Ramirez, vega, robideau, and locket have looked tremendous. It won't be long until the guys at Ok state like swiderski,Figueroa and Facundo just don't have spots on their team much like Penn State. They aren't a threat this year or next, but Penn State will eventually not win the title and I'm pretty damn sure the team that will that year, will be Ok State.

 

[Misalorales]

It's not the transfers, outside of Ryder I guess, that he's building the "they" with. Ramirez, vega, robideau, and locket have looked tremendous. It won't be long until the guys at Ok state like swiderski,Figueroa and Facundo just don't have spots on their team much like Penn State. They aren't a threat this year or next, but Penn State will eventually not win the title and I'm pretty damn sure the team that will that year, will be Ok State.

*Threat, not they.

 

[Sunshine88!]

Personally feel their are behind the scenes problems at Oklahoma State in the Coaching staff that recruits are not aware of when they verbal. Gilman pretty much said it when he came back. Now we have RBY back. That’s a Huge hit on there light weight Coaching. They are 2 of the Best in the World. Will see.

 

[Sandy2176]

It's not the transfers, outside of Ryder I guess, that he's building the "they" with. Ramirez, vega, robideau, and locket have looked tremendous. It won't be long until the guys at Ok state like swiderski,Figueroa and Facundo just don't have spots on their team much like Penn State. They aren't a threat this year or next, but Penn State will eventually not win the title and I'm pretty damn sure the team that will that year, will be Ok State.

PSU vs OKS 2028-2031 dog fight either way .

 

[Random4598375]

It's not the transfers, outside of Ryder I guess, that he's building the "they" with. Ramirez, vega, robideau, and locket have looked tremendous. It won't be long until the guys at Ok state like swiderski,Figueroa and Facundo just don't have spots on their team much like Penn State. They aren't a threat this year or next, but Penn State will eventually not win the title and I'm pretty damn sure the team that will that year, will be Ok State.

Yeah, this. Ryder is more like a “re-recruit” (I.e. who hadn’t wrestled for the first team yet) like MM or Kerk than a “transfer”, but as for the others, Penn State hasn’t done great with true transfers, either. Dean won one title then a 7th. Nagao and Truax didn’t improve at all, Hildebrandt went from AA to NQ, and Conel completely flamed out. DT with Hamiti and Hendrickson last year has already had more success than Cael with established transfers. PSU has been built on the guys who Cael has had in the room from day 1 as a blank canvas. We’ll see once DT has a couple recruiting classes fully integrated.

I’m not too worried yet because Cael is still getting all of the recruits PSU needs. What is happening is consolidating the elite recruits at 2 schools, which will make nationals a 2 horse race and make the Iowa and tOSU level programs true also rans.

 

[zzs006]

Yeah, this. Ryder is more like a “re-recruit” (I.e. who hadn’t wrestled for the first team yet) like MM or Kerk than a “transfer”, but as for the others, Penn State hasn’t done great with true transfers, either. Dean won one title then a 7th. Nagao and Truax didn’t improve at all, Hildebrandt went from AA to NQ, and Conel completely flamed out. DT with Hamiti and Hendrickson last year has already had more success than Cael with established transfers. PSU has been built on the guys who Cael has had in the room from day 1 as a blank canvas. We’ll see once DT has a couple recruiting classes fully integrated.

I’m not too worried yet because Cael is still getting all of the recruits PSU needs. What is happening is consolidating the elite recruits at 2 schools, which will make nationals a 2 horse race and make the Iowa and tOSU level programs true also rans.

tOSU is recruiting really well also. I think it’s likely them, OkSt and PSU going forward but PSU still definitely in front. It’s one thing to get top recruits. It’s another thing entirely to do what Cael and Co have done with those recruits. DT is going to do great but I can’t see him replicating certain things that Cael is exceptional at which is going to keep OkSt from truly taking over

 

[Goggles Paisano]

I'm not convinced he's a threat yet.

These guys aren't improving yet either.


#4 125 Spratley 4-2
#19 133 Figueroa 1-3 (Former NC)
#22 149 Swiderski 1-4
#14 174 Facundo 4-3
#13 184 Ryder 4-3

FIFY
#4 125 Spratley 4-2
#19 133 Figueroa 1-3 (Former NC)
#22 149 Swiderski 1-4
#14 174 Facundo 4-3
#NR NW Chaels 4-3
#13 184 Ryder 4-3
#NR NW Goggles 4-3

Agreed. All have been somewhat head shakingly mediocre if not worse.

 

[zack92]

In all fairness to the early season records, National Duels were loaded with high end match ups.

 

[El_Jefe]

I'm not convinced he's a threat yet.

These guys aren't improving yet either.


#4 125 Spratley 4-2
#19 133 Figueroa 1-3 (Former NC)
#22 149 Swiderski 1-4
#14 174 Facundo 4-3
#13 184 Ryder 4-3

Last year Spratley wasn't improving yet from R12 to the national finals.

 

[The Pitchfork Rebel]

In all fairness to the early season records, National Duels were loaded with high end match ups.

And? The conference and NCAA's will be as well.

 

[PSUbluTX]

Penn State will eventually not win the title ....

 

[PSUbluTX]

National Duels were loaded with high end caliber match ups.

Almost perfectly said, but I FIFY.

 

[Headlock]

And? The conference and NCAA's will be as well.

Amen!