Acupuncture

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Anyone try it? If so, does it work? Been dealing with Piriformis Syndrome for close to two years now and nothing helps. Been to five different doctors with no success and was wondering if anyone had tried acupuncture for muscle problems. Thanks

 

[Stevo1951]

I have bone spurs in my shoulders. I've tried it for about 4 months. It has helped but the lady was upfront in telling me it would relieve the pain but not fix the underlying cause. I also have bone spurs next to my Achilles tendons and it has definitely helped that.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

I have bone spurs in my shoulders. I've tried it for about 4 months. It has helped but the lady was upfront in telling me it would relieve the pain but not fix the underlying cause. I also have bone spurs next to my Achilles tendons and it has definitely helped that.

Thanks, I'm about at my wit's end because I simply cannot run and I've had to stop playing basketball and baseball. Just won't heal.

 

[Tannerdad]

Getting dry needle treatments currently for my arthritic neck. It’s only temporary relief. And not all that much

 

[bluthruandthru]

Could help. In all probability won't hurt.

I got it for bad shoulders from repetitive anterior to posterior stress through the shoulder complex. I believe it jump started the healing process. Still had to rest them and ice but really got the inflammation down.

It all depends on the underlying problem. Give it a shot. It doesn't hurt. At least it shouldn't.

 

[KT34]

It worked for me. Inflammation in both forearms and right hand. Chiropractor could feel knots in them but couldn't get fully worked out. Was icing 3 times per day for an hour each time. Wasn't carpel tunnel. Messed up my sleep bad. Had the problem for about 5 months. Had about 15 sessions of acupuncture over 3 months and got rid of the problem.

 

[CastleRubric]

Could help. In all probability won't hurt.

I got it for bad shoulders from repetitive anterior to posterior stress through the shoulder complex. I believe it jump started the healing process. Still had to rest them and ice but really got the inflammation down.

It all depends on the underlying problem. Give it a shot. It doesn't hurt. At least it shouldn't.

It was probably the 5th or 6th time I'd tried LSD
But I made the strategic mistake of taking it about 30 min's into a church service that I planned to leave early .....I was about 15 years old

And I was in charge of running the P.A.


So - I didn't know much about intake time and microgram dose levels and whatnot.......I just gulped down some microdots and went about MY PLAN


about 30 mins' earlier than expected I started to notice that Rev Earnest Mullins' voice was booming and echoing off the walls more than normal

I started managing the PA Board faders to compensate

......I'd look up from time to time and became increasingly paranoid that he was LOOKING RIGHT INTO MY EYES each time I peed down from "The Crows Nest"

to hedge my bets I acted like I dropped my wallet and then crawled on all fours down the stairs to the door that led to my defensive position

I locked it quickly and then noticed that the wood grain of the door featured Egyptian themed caricatures and willowy, gaunt hollow eyed women .....as disturbing as they were compelling to watch.......the ones near the sides of the door were starting to flow / swirl gently,......

I'm honestly not sure how long I stood there....time started to warp


that's when I knew I was in trouble

I ran back up stairs with my feet POUNDING on the stairs --- I turned EVERY F'ING FADER UP so that all mic's were on.....then -- ENGULFED IN PANIC -- I ran out that church and into my dad's pickup truck which I borrowed for the occasion.......


Don't even let me get STARTED about the drive up "25E" and into the greater Harrogate, TN metro area..........f'ing place was like a wonderland for misfit toy-people



The End
(Circa ~ 1987)

 

[bluthruandthru]

It was probably the 5th or 6th time I'd tried LSD
But I made the strategic mistake of taking it about 30 min's into a church service that I planned to leave early .....I was about 15 years old

And I was in charge of running the P.A.


So - I didn't know much about intake time and microgram dose levels and whatnot.......I just gulped down some microdots and went about MY PLAN


about 30 mins' earlier than expected I started to notice that Rev Earnest Mullins' voice was booming and echoing off the walls more than normal

I started managing the PA Board faders to compensate

......I'd look up from time to time and became increasingly paranoid that he was LOOKING RIGHT INTO MY EYES each time I peed down from "The Crows Nest"

to hedge my bets I acted like I dropped my wallet and then crawled on all fours down the stairs to the door that led to my defensive position

I locked it quickly and then noticed that the wood grain of the door featured Egyptian themed caricatures and willowy, gaunt hollow eyed women .....as disturbing as they were compelling to watch.......the ones near the sides of the door were starting to flow / swirl gently,......

I'm honestly not sure how long I stood there....time started to warp


that's when I knew I was in trouble

I ran back up stairs with my feet POUNDING on the stairs --- I turned EVERY F'ING FADER UP so that all mic's were on.....then -- ENGULFED IN PANIC -- I ran out that church and into my dad's pickup truck which I borrowed for the occasion.......


Don't even let me get STARTED about the drive up "25E" and into the greater Harrogate, TN metro area..........f'ing place was like a wonderland for misfit toy-people



The End
(Circa ~ 1987)

Take note, ladies and germs... That is how a non sequitur story not only should be but NEEDS to be told.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

It worked for me. Inflammation in both forearms and right hand. Chiropractor could feel knots in them but couldn't get fully worked out. Was icing 3 times per day for an hour each time. Wasn't carpel tunnel. Messed up my sleep bad. Had the problem for about 5 months. Had about 15 sessions of acupuncture over 3 months and got rid of the problem.

Sounds somewhat similar to my problem with inflammation that just won't move out. Thanks for the info.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Anyone try it? If so, does it work? Been dealing with Piriformis Syndrome for close to two years now and nothing helps. Been to five different doctors with no success and was wondering if anyone had tried acupuncture for muscle problems. Thanks

-First you have be sure it’s truly piriformis syndrome and not a lumbar issue.

-Second, you have to understand that there is no magic pill for musculoskeletal injuries. There is usually a recipe for improvement that will get you better. Manual therapy, therapeutic exercise, medications, modalities, etc are all ingredients to the recipe. Very rarely does one ingredient by itself “make a cake.” Dry needling can be great.....but it’s only one ingredient.

In the case of piriformis syndrome, a physical therapist is easily the best bet to help.....because they use all ingredients.....or at least should....judiciously. And not all PT’s are the same. So don’t lump them into one category. If you fail one place, go to another.

-Third, you have to work and be persistent. Sometimes you have do the exercises or self massage 2x, 3x, 5x a day. And you can’t stop. It may take a few weeks to see even the smallest results. Often taking 6-8 was to resolve fully. If you’ve had it for 2 yrs, it may take longer than 6-8 was to resolve.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

-First you have be sure it’s truly piriformis syndrome and not a lumbar issue.

-Second, you have to understand that there is no magic pill for musculoskeletal injuries. There is usually a recipe for improvement that will get you better. Manual therapy, therapeutic exercise, medications, modalities, etc are all ingredients to the recipe. Very rarely does one ingredient by itself “make a cake.” Dry needling can be great.....but it’s only one ingredient.

In the case of piriformis syndrome, a physical therapist is easily the best bet to help.....because they use all ingredients.....or at least should....judiciously. And not all PT’s are the same. So don’t lump them into one category. If you fail one place, go to another.

-Third, you have to work and be persistent. Sometimes you have do the exercises or self massage 2x, 3x, 5x a day. And you can’t stop. It may take a few weeks to see even the smallest results. Often taking 6-8 was to resolve fully. If you’ve had it for 2 yrs, it may take longer than 6-8 was to resolve.

Thanks, appreciate the info. Yes, I've been to five different doctors and the last was a chiropractor that told me it was piriformis syndrome. That was back in May and I've done everything they've recommended such as you mentioned. I have seen quite a bit of improvement but the first time I try to run, especially with metal cleats, it feels as if something is pulling me back and I just can't extend. Last doctor told me there was no structural damage but this thing is taking forever to heal. I've heard that deep tissue massage works on something like this as well. Are you familiar with that? Thanks

 

[BlueRaider22]

Thanks, appreciate the info. Yes, I've been to five different doctors and the last was a chiropractor that told me it was piriformis syndrome. That was back in May and I've done everything they've recommended such as you mentioned. I have seen quite a bit of improvement but the first time I try to run, especially with metal cleats, it feels as if something is pulling me back and I just can't extend. Last doctor told me there was no structural damage but this thing is taking forever to heal. I've heard that deep tissue massage works on something like this as well. Are you familiar with that? Thanks

You describe chiropractors as doctors? What specialties were the other "doctors" you went to? Did you go to Physical Therapy? Does the chiropractor recommend or do massage, exercise, etc......or just manipulate you......(a major pet peeve of mine).....

As you return to all activities, you can't stop the home exercise program. As you return to running, it's even more important to continue the home program.

Also, it's important to note. If you had PT before, did you expressly tell them that you haven't been able to return to running? You might need very specific training/analysis to return you to running form.



Finally, there are some long term things that could explain what you're going through.......does the nerve penetrate the muscle, neural lesions/damage, etc. It's unlikely, but it could explain.

 

[ImUTGagain]

It was probably the 5th or 6th time I'd tried LSD
But I made the strategic mistake of taking it about 30 min's into a church service that I planned to leave early .....I was about 15 years old

And I was in charge of running the P.A.


So - I didn't know much about intake time and microgram dose levels and whatnot.......I just gulped down some microdots and went about MY PLAN


about 30 mins' earlier than expected I started to notice that Rev Earnest Mullins' voice was booming and echoing off the walls more than normal

I started managing the PA Board faders to compensate

......I'd look up from time to time and became increasingly paranoid that he was LOOKING RIGHT INTO MY EYES each time I peed down from "The Crows Nest"

to hedge my bets I acted like I dropped my wallet and then crawled on all fours down the stairs to the door that led to my defensive position

I locked it quickly and then noticed that the wood grain of the door featured Egyptian themed caricatures and willowy, gaunt hollow eyed women .....as disturbing as they were compelling to watch.......the ones near the sides of the door were starting to flow / swirl gently,......

I'm honestly not sure how long I stood there....time started to warp


that's when I knew I was in trouble

I ran back up stairs with my feet POUNDING on the stairs --- I turned EVERY F'ING FADER UP so that all mic's were on.....then -- ENGULFED IN PANIC -- I ran out that church and into my dad's pickup truck which I borrowed for the occasion.......


Don't even let me get STARTED about the drive up "25E" and into the greater Harrogate, TN metro area..........f'ing place was like a wonderland for misfit toy-people



The End
(Circa ~ 1987)

A couple of things....one, I hope this story is true. I love LSD and have been dosed during church but not by myself. I was dosed by a cousin who thought it would be funny. Two, to be 15 and left in charge of the PA you must be musically inclined. That's pretty cool as well. Great story, thanks for sharing

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

If only the regular group here included a social degenerate who worked in the medical field, or even a confrontational physical therapist who tends to share too much personally identifiable information.

Nope, nothing like those folks here.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

You describe chiropractors as doctors? What specialties were the other "doctors" you went to? Did you go to Physical Therapy? Does the chiropractor recommend or do massage, exercise, etc......or just manipulate you......(a major pet peeve of mine).....

As you return to all activities, you can't stop the home exercise program. As you return to running, it's even more important to continue the home program.

Also, it's important to note. If you had PT before, did you expressly tell them that you haven't been able to return to running? You might need very specific training/analysis to return you to running form.



Finally, there are some long term things that could explain what you're going through.......does the nerve penetrate the muscle, neural lesions/damage, etc. It's unlikely, but it could explain.

BlueRaider, good questions.
First of all, I saw my GP, three Orthopedic Specialists and lastly, a chiropractor. I had heard of deep tissue massage for these types of issues so that's why I went to a a chiropractor as a last resort. I've had two sets of x-rays, a MRI, two cortisone shots and a PRP treatment yet nothing has worked. The visits to the chiropractor actually did seem to help but I do not think it was deep tissue massage. He used his hands to push on certain areas which hurt like hell and told me there was some deep inflammation he was trying to break up.

I do have an exercise regime specifically targeted for this injury which consists of stretching, foam roller exercises and other movements designed to loosen up the glut area. I have to do them twice a day and am religious about it. I'm still an active athlete so stretching has always been an integral part of my routines.

I have seen a bit of improvement and can run on the treadmill without any pain but the first time I'm on the field and try to accelerate I just can't do it. I've been to PT two separate times for a couple of months each but it really didn't help much. Never had an injury like this that took so long to heal.

 

[BlueRaider22]

BlueRaider, good questions.
First of all, I saw my GP, three Orthopedic Specialists and lastly, a chiropractor. I had heard of deep tissue massage for these types of issues so that's why I went to a a chiropractor as a last resort. I've had two sets of x-rays, a MRI, two cortisone shots and a PRP treatment yet nothing has worked. The visits to the chiropractor actually did seem to help but I do not think it was deep tissue massage. He used his hands to push on certain areas which hurt like hell and told me there was some deep inflammation he was trying to break up.

I do have an exercise regime specifically targeted for this injury which consists of stretching, foam roller exercises and other movements designed to loosen up the glut area. I have to do them twice a day and am religious about it. I'm still an active athlete so stretching has always been an integral part of my routines.

I have seen a bit of improvement and can run on the treadmill without any pain but the first time I'm on the field and try to accelerate I just can't do it. I've been to PT two separate times for a couple of months each but it really didn't help much. Never had an injury like this that took so long to heal.

When you’ve “returned to the field” did you just take off and go for it?.....or did you slowly, incrementally, and strategically do sport specific training to return to activity over 4-6 weeks?



There’s a small portion of the population where parts of the sciatic nerve passes through the piriformis muscle rather than just underneath it. Last I read it was <5-10% of the population. If you’re one of these unlucky people you might be screwed as there is no way to change anatomy without surgery.

It’s also possible that you had the initial piriformis issue which caused some localized nerve damage. If the damage isn’t too bad, nerves regenerate. But it’s slow, slow, slow. It could take yrs......assuming that the nerve is no longer being irritated.

It’s also possible that you’ve been misdiagnosed.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

When you’ve “returned to the field” did you just take off and go for it?.....or did you slowly, incrementally, and strategically do sport specific training to return to activity over 4-6 weeks?



There’s a small portion of the population where parts of the sciatic nerve passes through the piriformis muscle rather than just underneath it. Last I read it was <5-10% of the population. If you’re one of these unlucky people you might be screwed as there is no way to change anatomy without surgery.

It’s also possible that you had the initial piriformis issue which caused some localized nerve damage. If the damage isn’t too bad, nerves regenerate. But it’s slow, slow, slow. It could take yrs......assuming that the nerve is no longer being irritated.

It’s also possible that you’ve been misdiagnosed.

I was told to not "push it' when I returned and I really can't. Still, for some odd reason it's worse when I wear metal spikes. With my luck I'd probably be one of the 5-10% to which you're referring. In any case, just not sure what to do. I read a lot about the piriformis muscle and everything I saw said it had a very unpredictable recovery time. I have seen some improvement in doing bodyweight squats and single leg deadlifts but it's still sore the next day.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I was told to not "push it' when I returned and I really can't. Still, for some odd reason it's worse when I wear metal spikes. With my luck I'd probably be one of the 5-10% to which you're referring. In any case, just not sure what to do. I read a lot about the piriformis muscle and everything I saw said it had a very unpredictable recovery time. I have seen some improvement in doing bodyweight squats and single leg deadlifts but it's still sore the next day.

Spikes are not natural. They cause your body to function in a way that it’s not designed to do. If you can’t do simple athletic drills in tennis shoes, then you shouldn’t be using spikes.

The piriformis is an external rotator of the hip. Lunges and squats only help mildly. To strengthen the piriformis you have to do a lot of rotation work.....probably wouldn’t hurt to do some gluteus medius (abduction) strengthening to help promote better biomechanics and physics. Also, don’t focus on stretching solely the piriformis. Hamstrings, hip flexors, internal rotators may need to be stretched daily as well.

Another thing to consider is footwear and/or orthotics. A really good brand of shoes (Brooks, Saucony, etc) or reputable orthotics (Powersteps) can change the physics of the foot.....which will in turn change the physics of the knee.....which will in turn change the physics of the hip.


All of this and were still assuming that it truly is piriformis syndrome. You could be dealing with a referred pain......or small tear.....etc.

 

[DidneyWorl]

Accupuncture doesn't work. It's just some hoo doo used by some stinky hippie girl with hairy armpits using scented oil while you sit in a dirty *** used recliner with needles in your body in a room with the lights turned off.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Spikes are not natural. They cause your body to function in a way that it’s not designed to do. If you can’t do simple athletic drills in tennis shoes, then you shouldn’t be using spikes.

The piriformis is an external rotator of the hip. Lunges and squats only help mildly. To strengthen the piriformis you have to do a lot of rotation work.....probably wouldn’t hurt to do some gluteus medius (abduction) strengthening to help promote better biomechanics and physics. Also, don’t focus on stretching solely the piriformis. Hamstrings, hip flexors, internal rotators may need to be stretched daily as well.

Another thing to consider is footwear and/or orthotics. A really good brand of shoes (Brooks, Saucony, etc) or reputable orthotics (Powersteps) can change the physics of the foot.....which will in turn change the physics of the knee.....which will in turn change the physics of the hip.


All of this and were still assuming that it truly is piriformis syndrome. You could be dealing with a referred pain......or small tear.....etc.

The Chiro did tell me that I had tight hip flexors and gave me specific exercises for that. I do have some rotation exercises that I do on a daily basis. By gluteus medium strengthening do you mean exercises like Monster Walks, couch stretches, etc?

Thanks

 

[Stevo1951]

Accupuncture doesn't work. It's just some hoo doo used by some stinky hippie girl with hairy armpits using scented oil while you sit in a dirty *** used recliner with needles in your body in a room with the lights turned off.

What's wrong with female hippies and hairy armpits?

 

[BlueRaider22]

The Chiro did tell me that I had tight hip flexors and gave me specific exercises for that. I do have some rotation exercises that I do on a daily basis. By gluteus medium strengthening do you mean exercises like Monster Walks, couch stretches, etc?

Thanks

Here is an example of a glute med abduction in side lying.


What is not shown in the video is how straight his body is. You have to be dead straight or you might as well not do it. This can be done in standing following the same rules.....using ankle weights, bands, or a hip machine.

Here is an example of a hip external rotation exercise.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Here is an example of a glute med abduction in side lying.


What is not shown in the video is how straight his body is. You have to be dead straight or you might as well not do it. This can be done in standing following the same rules.....using ankle weights, bands, or a hip machine.

Here is an example of a hip external rotation exercise.

That is some really great info. Thanks, I'll definitely try these. I'm assuming you're in the medical field?

 

[BlueRaider22]

That is some really great info. Thanks, I'll definitely try these. I'm assuming you're in the medical field?

Former athletic trainer turned physical therapist. That's why I'm shocked that you aren't better. This is fairly easy to treat.......and I wouldn't really call myself a stellar therapist either. That's why I'm inclined to think that the PT's you saw were very poor or that you're dealing with something that might be a differential diagnosis.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

Former athletic trainer turned physical therapist. That's why I'm shocked that you aren't better. This is fairly easy to treat.......and I wouldn't really call myself a stellar therapist either. That's why I'm inclined to think that the PT's you saw were very poor or that you're dealing with something that might be a differential diagnosis.

I went to PT for two months on two separate occasions. They seemed to be more concerned about core stability although the initial diagnosis was a pulled hamstring. I'm wondering if some of the things they had me doing didn't aggravate the situation more, i.e., one legged kettlebell deadlifts, one legged squats on the BOSU, etc. They did show me some rotational exercises like clamshells and some yoga pose they called "the pigeon", but not much in the way of dynamic exercises. I saw two Orthopedic specialists like I mentioned before and am wondering if I need to see an Osteopathic doctor. Anyway, thanks for the information. I'll put the rotational exercises in my routine.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Former athletic trainer turned physical therapist. That's why I'm shocked that you aren't better. This is fairly easy to treat.......and I wouldn't really call myself a stellar therapist either. That's why I'm inclined to think that the PT's you saw were very poor or that you're dealing with something that might be a differential diagnosis.

Why you hating on chiropractors? Don’t they go to school same amount of years as you?

 

[TheySoSensitive]

I cannot take that black guy seriously with those pants, the posture, and him just staring into the distance with the same look he had from the get go.

...and also the screamingly high level of awkward homosex in that video was difficult to handle. Straight awkward would still be annoying, but that goofy *** posture and stare pulls this one out.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Why you hating on chiropractors? Don’t they go to school same amount of years as you?

I don’t think I did “hate on” chiropractors. The only part that could be taken as such is the part where I asked the OP what he meant by “doctors.” He was lumping all specialties into one category.....PTs, MDs, Chiros, etc. While they’re all doctors (well in many cases) I didn’t know what specialties he actually saw.

The other posts I wrote really didn’t mention chiros at all.



I will put this out there though since it’s a pet peeve of mine. (Also mentioned in the post clarifying doctors) like all professions there are good/bad. Lawyers, doctors, PTs, chiros, car mechanics, etc. Some either don’t know enough or care enough to get you better and they just string you along. Below are examples from PT and chiros.

PT - specifically outpatient PT. Let’s use low back pain as an example because it fits both chiros and PT. I usually will see a low back pain patient for 6-8 wks on average.....at a frequency of 1x/wk. So in 6-8 visits I can resolve their pain, restore full function, and they’re done. They don’t have to come back. They’re also armed with the knowledge to maintain their back with simple exercises. Some PTs see people 2x/wk on average.....and that’s ok too. What I don’t like is when a PT sees someone too frequently and/or for too long. I’ve seen PTs milk the patients insurance and bring them in 40x for something that should’ve been taken care of with a fraction of visits.

Chiros - same scenario. Many, many chiros just pop your back and say “come back in 2 wks.” They don’t give exercises, they don’t massage, they don’t cure......they band-aid. I don’t know how many patients I’ve seen for back pain where they’ve gone to chiros 1-2x/month for 1, 5, 10 yrs for “adjustments” for a problem that should be resolved in <2 months! It’s nuts. If a chiro gives a comprehensive approach, heals their patient, and let’s them go, Ive got no issue....good job. Now if a patient knows the score and they just want to get popped every 2 wks, fine.....but in the vast majority of cases patients don’t know better. When you pop a joint (back, knuckles, shoulder, etc) it releases endorphins.....a chemical that makes you feel good and reduces discomfort. And it’s addictive. That’s why so many people pop their knuckles, run to point where they get the “runners high”, have sex, get massages, etc. People get addicted to the endorphin release.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

I don’t think I did “hate on” chiropractors. The only part that could be taken as such is the part where I asked the OP what he meant by “doctors.” He was lumping all specialties into one category.....PTs, MDs, Chiros, etc. While they’re all doctors (well in many cases) I didn’t know what specialties he actually saw.

The other posts I wrote really didn’t mention chiros at all.



I will put this out there though since it’s a pet peeve of mine. (Also mentioned in the post clarifying doctors) like all professions there are good/bad. Lawyers, doctors, PTs, chiros, car mechanics, etc. Some either don’t know enough or care enough to get you better and they just string you along. Below are examples from PT and chiros.

PT - specifically outpatient PT. Let’s use low back pain as an example because it fits both chiros and PT. I usually will see a low back pain patient for 6-8 wks on average.....at a frequency of 1x/wk. So in 6-8 visits I can resolve their pain, restore full function, and they’re done. They don’t have to come back. They’re also armed with the knowledge to maintain their back with simple exercises. Some PTs see people 2x/wk on average.....and that’s ok too. What I don’t like is when a PT sees someone too frequently and/or for too long. I’ve seen PTs milk the patients insurance and bring them in 40x for something that should’ve been taken care of with a fraction of visits.

Chiros - same scenario. Many, many chiros just pop your back and say “come back in 2 wks.” They don’t give exercises, they don’t massage, they don’t cure......they band-aid. I don’t know how many patients I’ve seen for back pain where they’ve gone to chiros 1-2x/month for 1, 5, 10 yrs for “adjustments” for a problem that should be resolved in <2 months! It’s nuts. If a chiro gives a comprehensive approach, heals their patient, and let’s them go, Ive got no issue....good job. Now if a patient knows the score and they just want to get popped every 2 wks, fine.....but in the vast majority of cases patients don’t know better. When you pop a joint (back, knuckles, shoulder, etc) it releases endorphins.....a chemical that makes you feel good and reduces discomfort. And it’s addictive. That’s why so many people pop their knuckles, run to point where they get the “runners high”, have sex, get massages, etc. People get addicted to the endorphin release.

Correct, there's good and bad in every profession. Some people claim to be helped by Chiro's and some don't, just like anything else.

 

[anon_q409idbs5m40a]

I cannot take that black guy seriously with those pants, the posture, and him just staring into the distance with the same look he had from the get go.

...and also the screamingly high level of awkward homosex in that video was difficult to handle. Straight awkward would still be annoying, but that goofy *** posture and stare pulls this one out.

What you were seeing is actually an offshoot of yoga poses which are designed to loosen up the glut area. Trust me, they are not easy and most are movements that are designed to help those who have a history of sitting too much. They actually do help quite a bit although on the surface they appear to look awkward. The United States, with the exception of blue collar workers, has become a "sitting society" where it's very difficult to maintain good posture, which causes back and other muscular problems. Exercises such as what you saw are for the purpose of "resetting" your body and helping to correct issues.