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JordanJ21

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How on earth does Stamps get more reps at 225 on bench then Forrest. I know Forrest has long arms but man, that can't be good.
 
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seccats04

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Korem's program has been an utter failure so far. A 5th year LB with 11 reps on the bench. A Sr DB running in the 4.8's. It looks like Stamps should've gone pro after last year. Our OL still have big guts and little to no arm definition and get pushed around even by the likes of EKU. Thankfully Stoops hired a new S&C Coach this year. Let's see what he can do.
 
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CatsFanGG24

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Don't think Korems program would have much of anything to do with bench pressing...S&C coach remained at UK, and has been praised, they just added to the staff.

Korem and his program were really credited for helping Dupree and Williamson test through the roof.

Forrest trained in Baton Rouge apparently, not at UK.
 
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JHB4UK

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CatsFanGG24 said:
Don't think Korems program would have much of anything to do with bench pressing...
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Yeah it did, if it took time away from bench pressing & getting faster. Which seems to be the conclusion as Korem's program is being phased out and a more normal S&C program is being beefed up.

the very best of our senior talent is putting up awful numbers at the combine. hell the NFL didnt even think our best D linemen Cory Johnson was worth inviting to the combine.

and people are pissed and puzzled as to why our team does not compete against most of the SEC?
 
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seccats04 said:
Korem's program has been an utter failure so far. A 5th year LB with 11 reps on the bench. A Sr DB running in the 4.8's. It looks like Stamps should've gone pro after last year. Our OL still have big guts and little to no arm definition and get pushed around even by the likes of EKU. Thankfully Stoops hired a new S&C Coach this year. Let's see what he can do.
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You see Avery Williamson, Bud Dupree, and Za'Darius Smith's times the last two years? They all trained with Korem for the combine. Not saying Korem is the be-all by any means, but there's more nuance to the situation.

Also, the NFL Network reported this morning that Forrest was sick but decided to compete anyway. Stamps' speed is disappointing, even if on a track that saw a lot of slow times this weekend, but it's been pretty obvious for a while he doesn't have great speed. His NFL Draft profile quotes scouts saying the same thing.
 
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3kidsandme

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AJ is not an nfl player. Stamps played well his junior year against the lower end competition on the schedule. When the schedule got tougher both years he was mediocre at best. UK is upgrading at safety with Edwards West Walker and Gilliam. Mcwilson is another guy that I could see getting beat out. He was pretty awful last year in stretches. As much as the secondary improved in coverage at corner the safeties struggled in run support.

In regards to Korem his contract not going to be renewed. It is pretty telling when Stoops was quoted saying the returning players are not used to how hard the workouts are this year. Korem was more worried about science than getting the players better.
 
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3kidsandme said:
AJ is not an nfl player. Stamps played well his junior year against the lower end competition on the schedule. When the schedule got tougher both years he was mediocre at best. UK is upgrading at safety with Edwards West Walker and Gilliam. Mcwilson is another guy that I could see getting beat out. He was pretty awful last year in stretches. As much as the secondary improved in coverage at corner the safeties struggled in run support.

In regards to Korem his contract not going to be renewed. It is pretty telling when Stoops was quoted saying the returning players are not used to how hard the workouts are this year. Korem was more worried about science than getting the players better.
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3kidsandme said:
AJ is not an nfl player. Stamps played well his junior year against the lower end competition on the schedule. When the schedule got tougher both years he was mediocre at best. UK is upgrading at safety with Edwards West Walker and Gilliam. Mcwilson is another guy that I could see getting beat out. He was pretty awful last year in stretches. As much as the secondary improved in coverage at corner the safeties struggled in run support.

In regards to Korem his contract not going to be renewed. It is pretty telling when Stoops was quoted saying the returning players are not used to how hard the workouts are this year. Korem was more worried about science than getting the players better.
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Bingo. Korem was using the players as lab rats for his doctoral dissertation rather than training th players for an SEC S&C program. Results showed on the field in terms of the lack of progress in size and strength, and his testing was taking away far too much time versus getting results and resulted in some issues with players coached finally had enough of towards the middle to end of the season. Once he gets his degree he is gone and writing books and notes - having a PhD helps in selling books and program whether they work or not. Seems strange to me.
 
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JHB4UK said:
Yeah it did, if it took time away from bench pressing & getting faster. Which seems to be the conclusion as Korem's program is being phased out and a more normal S&C program is being beefed up.

the very best of our senior talent is putting up awful numbers at the combine. hell the NFL didnt even think our best D linemen Cory Johnson was worth inviting to the combine.

and people are pissed and puzzled as to why our team does not compete against most of the SEC?
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Don't think it took time away from conventional weight training...I think it added unnecessary time for the players - tracking rates, reporting daily about certain things, etc. Corey Edmond still had a full time program, even when the high performance was going on. And to be fair, I'd expect a ton of high school guys to be able to rep 225 11X, so it says more about the individual to me.
 
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You see Avery Williamson, Bud Dupree, and Za'Darius Smith's times the last two years? They all trained with Korem for the combine. Not saying Korem is the be-all by any means, but there's more nuance to the situation.
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3 guys who spent only 1 yr for Avery & 2 years for Bud & Z in the programs, the majority of their post high school S&C were prior to Korem

the strength & speed improvement results thus far of recruited high school kids who have done nothing but high performance at UK has been abysmal, and that is seen on the field of battle on Saturdays. thankfully the plug has been pulled on the experiment.
 
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Tskware said:
UK's S&C program always seems to be over marketed and under performing. Sure hope I live long enough to see it change.
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In my lifetime one common thread about UK football, besides losing, is every year they need to be "bigger, stronger, faster." I'm with Tsk...hope I live long enough to see it change.
 
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CatsFanGG24

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Again, the High Performance is separate from the traditional S&C...and both were ongoing things.

High Performance is going to be a smaller part of things now for sure...too much of it was for Korems personal research.

And to be fair to the traditional S&C...Forrest came in as a WR and ended up as a very athletic LB who tested poorly. Stamps was a JUCO with only 1.5 years in program.
 
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JHB4UK said:
3 guys who spent only 1 yr for Avery & 2 years for Bud & Z in the programs, the majority of their post high school S&C were prior to Korem

the strength & speed improvement results thus far of recruited high school kids who have done nothing but high performance at UK has been abysmal, and that is seen on the field of battle on Saturdays. thankfully the plug has been pulled on the experiment.
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I agree mostly. What I was saying is he preps them well for the combine. Like I said "not the be-all".
 
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K_TIME

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Tskware said:
UK's S&C program always seems to be over marketed and under performing. Sure hope I live long enough to see it change.
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As a fan paying for tix for many years...it really leaves a bitter taste in your mouth when we play so badly on field only to see some very non committed off field mess like this. Just leaves you feeling team isn't trying their hardest to achieve their potential to see Forrest throw up a weak number like that.

The only coaches in modern era I thought pushed the kids to achieve their best potential was Claiborne and Brooks. Joker, Mumme, Curry (Morris wasn't here long enough) and now Stoops....I just don't feel like the kids bust their cans as a whole program like Brooks/Claiborne kids did. There are always unique situations of kids that busted it....but Joker was a country club coach, Mumme was a physical mess as well, Curry was 100% hyperbole and Stoops with stuff like we're seeing on the DL/OL, etc..looks like we've not pushed our program to the max.
 
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3kidsandme

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I'm not putting it all on Korem. Some of the responsibility lies within each individual. There is a reason Bud Amery and big Z are playing in the nfl. For a safety in the sec to run a 4.82 is sad. Stoops kept calling AJ out at some point these players gotta care. I do like the future of the program. Guys like Love Landon Kash Drake Haynes Toth. These are your leaders.
 
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3kidsandme said:
AJ is not an nfl player. Stamps played well his junior year against the lower end competition on the schedule. When the schedule got tougher both years he was mediocre at best. UK is upgrading at safety with Edwards West Walker and Gilliam. Mcwilson is another guy that I could see getting beat out. He was pretty awful last year in stretches. As much as the secondary improved in coverage at corner the safeties struggled in run support.

In regards to Korem his contract not going to be renewed. It is pretty telling when Stoops was quoted saying the returning players are not used to how hard the workouts are this year. Korem was more worried about science than getting the players better.
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I think AJ can play on an NFL roster...he just needs to be on a suffocating D where he's not the main man. He's plenty fast enough, and has a high enough football IQ to be a supplemental player though imo.
 
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Hope AJ improves his draft stock at the pro day, but I think we are in a better position going forward with what we have on the team. I wish Stamps nothing but the best and hope he has a long an successful career in the league.
 
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Tskware said:
UK's S&C program always seems to be over marketed and under performing. Sure hope I live long enough to see it change.
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Me too!!!!! I suspected that something wasn't right with the S&C program as the team seemed always out of shape and lacking strength.However,every summer we fans were told how much weight players were gaining and how their overall strength ha improved.Now we seem to be finding out the rest of the story.
 
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In retrospective it helps explain how bad the defense was last season, despite having so many seniors, due to how slow our top 2 NFL prospects were. Hopefully this new guy from Indiana can fix everything, Indiana has done an amazing job at player development over the past couple of seasons.
 
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No offense to Stamps and Forrest but we've recruited over those guys at this point. You will see future NFL guys at safety and LB in the near future.
 
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