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You need to realize Alabama fans are obsessed and the District Attorney probably went to the Alabama law school and the other legal authorities are Alabama fans. If they could possibly see a way to not charge him,; charge the other two and let him help Alabama keep winning they will.

Alabama law says that if your good buddy texts you and says bring me a gun I need to shoot someone and you take him his gun, you will not be charged. He does not have to say I need to shoot someone as that is implied when they ask for a gun. 90+ people who ask for a gun are not going coon hunting.
 
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You need to realize Alabama fans are obsessed and the District Attorney probably went to the Alabama law school and the other legal authorities are Alabama fans. If they could possibly see a way to not charge him,; charge the other two and let him help Alabama keep winning they will.

Alabama law says that if your good buddy texts you and says bring me a gun I need to shoot someone and you take him his gun, you will not be charged. He does not have to say I need to shoot someone as that is implied when they ask for a gun. 90+ people who ask for a gun are not going coon hunting.
You think it’s appropriate to tell someone when they can and cannot have their property back? And furthermore you think it’s ok to punish a guy that wasn’t even charged with a crime because one wasn’t committed? What exactly are you punishing him for?
 
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Spurman54

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Brandon Miller contributed to the murder of this girl. He supplied the person who shot the girl with the gun. Never should have been able to play another second for Alabama. We all know how Alabama always get preferrential treatment. Just the way it is. How in the world do you think they always get these 5 star athletes. Not because of the education. Don't tell me Alabama is in the same zip code with their education as Stanford, Cal and Vanderbilt. Just the way it is in the SEC.
 

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Brandon Miller contributed to the murder of this girl. He supplied the person who shot the girl with the gun. Never should have been able to play another second for Alabama. We all know how Alabama always get preferrential treatment. Just the way it is. How in the world do you think they always get these 5 star athletes. Not because of the education. Don't tell me Alabama is in the same zip code with their education as Stanford, Cal and Vanderbilt. Just the way it is in the SEC.

He would not be guilty of a crime in SC either.
 
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Brandon Miller contributed to the murder of this girl. He supplied the person who shot the girl with the gun. Never should have been able to play another second for Alabama. We all know how Alabama always get preferrential treatment. Just the way it is. How in the world do you think they always get these 5 star athletes. Not because of the education. Don't tell me Alabama is in the same zip code with their education as Stanford, Cal and Vanderbilt. Just the way it is in the SEC.
He didn’t buy the gun there for he didn’t supply it. Returning someone’s property is not a crime. Hence why he hasn’t been charged.
 

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He didn’t buy the gun there for he didn’t supply it. Returning someone’s property is not a crime. Hence why he hasn’t been charged.
Yes. Per the record, Miles had been texting him for an hour to come pick him up with no mention of a gun. Miller was already on his way to pick Miles up and was close to being there before Miles texted anything about a gun. So he was not going there to take the gun. When he arrived, he never got out of the car, never saw or touched the gun and left as soon as there was shooting.
 

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Don't we have 3 football players that have been suspended for 1 of them having a gun on campus and obstruction? I have no insights as to who did or who knew what but it does seem a bit of a double standard.
 

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Don't we have 3 football players that have been suspended for 1 of them having a gun on campus and obstruction? I have no insights as to who did or who knew what but it does seem a bit of a double standard.
What’s the double standard? The players involved have been kicked off the team for Alabama.
 

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Not so sure about all that. Other testimony said Miller was already on the way to pick up Miles and was nearly there before Miles texted about bringing the gun. Allegedly, the gun was in the back, underneath a pile of clothes and Miller never touched it. in that scenario, he did not "deliver'" the gun.
 

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Typical media running away with a story in the absence of facts.

So far we've been told Miller "delivered the gun." Not true. Miller was allegedly unaware Miles had left a gun in his car. He never touched or saw the gun.

We were told he left to take the gun after Miles texted him. Not true. He was already on the way before Miles texted anything about a gun.

We were told he parked in such a way as to block in the vehicle the victim was in. Not true. Per video evidence, he was already parked before the victim's car pulled up.

On top of that, Miller has agreed to multiple interviews with the DA and voluntarily granted authorities access to search his car and cell phone.
 
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With the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time
No question about that.

To charge Miller with a crime, they would have show that he took the gun to Miles knowing that they planned to commit a murder. There's no evidence of that at all. As it is, it doesn't appear he even knew the gun was in the car until he was nearly there to pick up Miles.
 

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Charging with a crime is one thing - the coach's handling of this is a totally different thing.
My coach would have had my butt on the bench or maybe not even allowed to me to sit on the bench for a long time - because of the damage my actions reflect on the team and the coach!
 

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But for what reason?

So many times there's a rush to punish one person for someone else's actions.

If he were not a player on an SEC team, Alabama no less, our fans wouldn't give two craps about the situation.
 

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But for what reason?

So many times there's a rush to punish one person for someone else's actions.

If he were not a player on an SEC team, Alabama no less, our fans wouldn't give two craps about the situation.
Making bad choices and not thinking about the impact his actions have on the team.
No punishment - no lesson learned! Coach missed a teaching moment which could change a young man's life.
 

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Making bad choices and not thinking about the impact his actions have on the team.
No punishment - no lesson learned! Coach missed a teaching moment which could change a young man's life.

You'd have to presume he had an inkling that the other guys wanted to murder someone. Besides, he was already on the way to pick Miles up and was nearly there before Miles texted about a gun. And nobody even knows if he actually saw the text before he arrived at the scene. He didn't even know the gun had been left in his car and never handled the gun.

It's terribly sad and horrific that a girl was murdered, but the focus of the anger should be on the persons guilty. There's nothing to gain from mob mentality by trying to bring in an innocent 3rd party.

There are other ways to teach a lesson than sitting him. When you punish someone for something they didn't do, it can have the opposite effect.

And, as I noted above, our fans are not concerned about any kind of justice. They just want to see an Alabama player get benched b/c they hate Alabama.
 

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You'd have to presume he had an inkling that the other guys wanted to murder someone. Besides, he was already on the way to pick Miles up and was nearly there before Miles texted about a gun. And nobody even knows if he actually saw the text before he arrived at the scene. He didn't even know the gun had been left in his car and never handled the gun.

It's terribly sad and horrific that a girl was murdered, but the focus of the anger should be on the persons guilty. There's nothing to gain from mob mentality by trying to bring in an innocent 3rd party.

There are other ways to teach a lesson than sitting him. When you punish someone for something they didn't do, it can have the opposite effect.

And, as I noted above, our fans are not concerned about any kind of justice. They just want to see an Alabama player get benched b/c they hate Alabama.
My main point on this is, if he thinks he did nothing wrong there is a high probability of a repeat of the same innocent actions but next time he is the unfortunate victim of a stray bullet because he is with the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Coach could make an impact in his young life and change his future.
 

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My main point on this is, if he thinks he did nothing wrong there is a high probability of a repeat of the same innocent actions but next time he is the unfortunate victim of a stray bullet because he is with the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Coach could make an impact in his young life and change his future.
Did he do something wrong?
 

Prestonyte

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Did he do something wrong?
"repeat of the same innocent actions but next time he is the unfortunate victim of a stray bullet because he is with the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time."
Again, the coach may save him from a bad future outcome and never playing in the NBA with a simple lesson of discipline now.
Hope you are correct, that none is needed.
 
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My main point on this is, if he thinks he did nothing wrong there is a high probability of a repeat of the same innocent actions but next time he is the unfortunate victim of a stray bullet because he is with the wrong people, in the wrong place at the wrong time. Coach could make an impact in his young life and change his future.
He thinks he did nothing wrong because he didn’t. He’s not wrong in that.
 

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Some thoughts on this situation. First of all most student-athletes are in college for the right reasons and keep their noses clean and some even in the books. There are a number like Miller only in college because of sports and are not students in the true sense of the word. They are only marking time and taking up space. Second a small minority have a thug, gansta mentality and associate with gang members armed and dangerous. This aspect is alive and well in the NBA. I still don't understand how this situation is not a violation of the weapon possession by a student on the campus of Al. outlined in their student handbook like our fb players violated and were punished for.