Alejandro Villanueva on Colin Kaepernick

[WP76]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...cks-protest-of-the-national-anthem/ar-AAidCDX

Saw this on MSN from an interview with current Steelers OL Alejandro Villanueva who is a former US Army Ranger and West Point football player. I think he does a pretty good job.

In words that have been attributed to Voltaire and others, Kaepernick's actions personally come to me under the heading of "while I disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it."

 

[K2C Sooner]

Why is this even news? Of all places Fox Business channel had it as a lead story. I go there to watch the stock market. This country is screwed...............JMO.

 

[Section22Sooner]

I go there to watch the stock market..

Not Maria Bartiromo?

 

[K2C Sooner]

Lou Do

Not Maria Bartiromo?

Lou Dobbs and Stossell.

Anyone else notice that Kaperdick looks like Anthony Wiener's son?

 

[Schoonerman_rivals49058]

I'm okay with Kapernick using his celebrity and access to the media to voice his opinion, but the method he is using is disrespectful, particularly to those who died to defend his freedom. Call me old school, but burning or walking on the flag, or not standing (or taking off your damned hat) during the National Anthem is way over the line and should not be tolerated or permitted. Beyond that, the 49ers should cut him because he's not worth the $12M he'll get in 2016.

 

[WP76]

I'm okay with Kapernick using his celebrity and access to the media to voice his opinion, but the method he is using is disrespectful, particularly to those who died to defend his freedom. Call me old school, but burning or walking on the flag, or not standing (or taking off your damned hat) during the National Anthem is way over the line and should not be tolerated or permitted. Beyond that, the 49ers should cut him because he's not worth the $12M he'll get in 2016.

I agree. If you think something is wrong you go to work. You sacrifice your time, your energy, your talents, and your (in this case considerable) financial resources to make it right. What you don't do is sit on your ***--literally and figuratively--and whine.

 

[K2C Sooner]

I'm okay with Kapernick using his celebrity and access to the media to voice his opinion, but the method he is using is disrespectful, particularly to those who died to defend his freedom. Call me old school, but burning or walking on the flag, or not standing (or taking off your damned hat) during the National Anthem is way over the line and should not be tolerated or permitted. Beyond that, the 49ers should cut him because he's not worth the $12M he'll get in 2016.

He's a celebrity? A second team Q-B that is a has been. He'll get cut......Even in San Fran..............

I saw where the minority owner of the SF Giants had gave gobs of money to the Hillary campaign.

I wonder what Peter Magowen, principal owner, thinks about that. I once worked for him and he told all employees if we didn't vote republican, and found out, he would fire us.

 

[Soonersincefitty]

I agree. If you think something is wrong you go to work. You sacrifice your time, your energy, your talents, and your (in this case considerable) financial resources to make it right. What you don't do is sit on your ***--literally and figuratively--and whine.

Yeah, this guy, got a couple of wires touching that shouldn't be.
Hasn't he heard of Rosa Parks, Bull Conner spraying them down with fire hoses, setting the German Shepards loose?
If he's trying to be MLK...total fail.

 

[CTOkie]

Why is this even news? Of all places Fox Business channel had it as a lead story. I go there to watch the stock market. This country is screwed...............JMO.

Fox usually makes stuff like this a big deal like they did when Obama did not wear an American flag on his lapel. Another example of how the main stream media gets people to take their eye off the ball.

 

[OUSOONER67]

I read where a lot of SF fans were calling it disrespectful that fans booed him the other night when he got on the field. I guess they do not find it disrespectful that he refused to stand for the National Anthem. I am 49 and sad to say my generation and a few after mine has raised a bunch of self entitled all about me whiny brats. Everyone gets a trophy, all the kids at lil Bobby's birthday gets a present. If you do not love this Country then leave, nobody owes you anything. Most people in this Country do not realize just how good we have it. Is it perfect? No and probably never will be but I will take it over living anywhere else in this sad world. I could really get cranked up about this and a lot of other crap going on but my blood pressure is high enough.

 

[roygbell]

I have zero tolerance for people who exhibit his type of behavior. I've been all over this world. There isn't any spot on the planet that is better than the good ole USA. I don't think these folks really understand how much of the rest of the planet really works. We are living in very dangerous times.

I think part of the problem is that most of those under the age of 35 or so have never really experienced some of the really bad things that have happened on this planet. They just have no real perspective on how historic events.

 

[OUSOONER67]

One thing my Dad told me right after I graduated HS in 85 should be told to kids today. Nobody out there in the World gives a crap about you, nobody out there owes you anything and nobody is going to just hand you what you want. You have to go out there and make your own way because nobody else will do it for you. Life is about choices, a lot of guys I knew made the wrong choices too many times and a few ended up dead or in prison. Could have been me but I choose not to go that way no matter how bad I had it.

 

[CTOkie]

I have zero tolerance for people who exhibit his type of behavior. I've been all over this world. There isn't any spot on the planet that is better than the good ole USA. I don't think these folks really understand how much of the rest of the planet really works. We are living in very dangerous times.

I think part of the problem is that most of those under the age of 35 or so have never really experienced some of the really bad things that have happened on this planet. They just have no real perspective on how historic events.

I think the other part of the problem is the overly sensitive mindset many of us have. Kaepernick has every right to protest anything and to speak out on things, much the same way Anita Bryant did 39 years ago on the gay lifestyle....which cost Bryant her career, her endorsements and a cowardly thrown pie in the face during a book signing show.
Kaepernick is a $19 million a year backup quarterback, raised by white parents who adopted him and who gave him every opportunity in life. But if he feels compelled to sit during the national anthem, or burn a flag, he has that right....and my indifference.

 

[OUSOONER67]

He has the right to do it but he could go about it another way. My problem with these guys is they want change but say absolutely nothing about whats happening in cities like Chicago. A thug gets dealt with by the police and all hell breaks loose. Hundreds of blacks killed in Chicago by other blacks and nobody cares. He and the others need to put that energy and make a difference in these neighborhoods. Those that whine and cry about something yet do absolutely nothing to change it have zero respect from me especially when they disrespect others for their own agenda.

 

[JConXtsy_rivals]

Kaepernick is a $19 million a year backup quarterback, raised by white parents who adopted him and who gave him every opportunity in life. But if he feels compelled to sit during the national anthem, or burn a flag, he has that right....and my indifference.

He has the right, but he's an employee representing a franchise and a corporation (shelled inside of a non-profit trade association), so they have the right to void his contract and boot his butt as far as I know.

It's true that our society is becoming more efficient, and therefore we have more free time to observe, analyze and judge others. We (colloquial we, not everyone) don't keep ourselves busy with our own lives anymore, and we have a very efficient and manipulative media that can steer our attention in any way they see fit.

A good point was made that nobody was discussing Colin after he sat during the anthem for the first 2 preseason games.... the ones for which he didn't suit up.

 

[CTOkie]

He has the right to do it but he could go about it another way. My problem with these guys is they want change but say absolutely nothing about whats happening in cities like Chicago. A thug gets dealt with by the police and all hell breaks loose. Hundreds of blacks killed in Chicago by other blacks and nobody cares. He and the others need to put that energy and make a difference in these neighborhoods. Those that whine and cry about something yet do absolutely nothing to change it have zero respect from me especially when they disrespect others for their own agenda.

Agree....but he DIDN'T do it another way.
If he lived in the real world outside of sports and/or the entertainment business, he might see things as you do.

 

[IzzyGouldLiar]

I'm still wondering how blacks in this country are "oppressed". If segregation and lynching come back I will agree with them.

 

[CTOkie]

I'm still wondering how blacks in this country are "oppressed". If segregation and lynching come back I will agree with them.

They're very much oppressed....by liberal policies that have splintered families and created a form of "slavery" in the welfare system.
The "racism" tag gets tiresome, especially when it's liberals who harp on it all the time. Personally I'm very prejudiced against anyone who won't shape up and keeps asking for my money to make up for their lack of ambition and self sufficiency. I don't care what race they are.

 

[WP76]

They're very much oppressed....by liberal policies that have splintered families and created a form of "slavery" in the welfare system.
The "racism" tag gets tiresome, especially when it's liberals who harp on it all the time. Personally I'm very prejudiced against anyone who won't shape up and keeps asking for my money to make up for their lack of ambition and self sufficiency. I don't care what race they are.

So much truth in this post...

 

[IzzyGouldLiar]

They're very much oppressed....by liberal policies that have splintered families and created a form of "slavery" in the welfare system.
The "racism" tag gets tiresome, especially when it's liberals who harp on it all the time. Personally I'm very prejudiced against anyone who won't shape up and keeps asking for my money to make up for their lack of ambition and self sufficiency. I don't care what race they are.

Now agree they are being oppressed in this manner...however the proper word might be "repressed".

 

[roygbell]

I think the other part of the problem is the overly sensitive mindset many of us have. Kaepernick has every right to protest anything and to speak out on things, much the same way Anita Bryant did 39 years ago on the gay lifestyle....which cost Bryant her career, her endorsements and a cowardly thrown pie in the face during a book signing show.
Kaepernick is a $19 million a year backup quarterback, raised by white parents who adopted him and who gave him every opportunity in life. But if he feels compelled to sit during the national anthem, or burn a flag, he has that right....and my indifference.

I didn't say he doesn't have the right to do and think the way he wants. So, do I. I don't think my mindset is to overly sensitive and I don't think folks who think like I do are the problem.

 

[ziggy marley]

As a black man, it makes me laugh when other people try to tell us how to behave. I guess you feel the need to do so since it's been happening here since the 1600's. Anyways, Boomer Sooner....if I'm still allowed to say that.

 

[JConXtsy_rivals]

As a black man, it makes me laugh when other people try to tell us how to behave. I guess you feel the need to do so since it's been happening here since the 1600's. Anyways, Boomer Sooner....if I'm still allowed to say that.

I'm pretty sure we tell everyone how to behave. It's not just one race towards another, one sex towards another, or one nationality towards another. That's human nature. "Do as I say, not as I do."

You'll be laughing until your days are numbered if that's all it takes.

Love is my religion as well. Nobody's going to lose their soul.

 

[CTOkie]

As a black man, it makes me laugh when other people try to tell us how to behave. I guess you feel the need to do so since it's been happening here since the 1600's. Anyways, Boomer Sooner....if I'm still allowed to say that.

My point is that blacks have been sold a flawed bill of goods by liberals. That's all.

 

[DubiousDon]

I'm still wondering how blacks in this country are "oppressed". If segregation and lynching come back I will agree with them.

Go to a Trump rally and you'll notice they're working on it.

 

[Mister Moses]

I read yesterday and the kicker was left out of the majority of news broadcast. He says Trump is a racist and that was spread by the media. They left out what he said Hillary. He was really slamming her. He said among other things, she belonged in prison. Let us here it all and not play politics in the media. Unbiased my ***

 

[fortworth4ou2]

Go to a Trump rally and you'll notice they're working on it.

That's the hands down winner, imho, for the most repugnant and delusional post of the year. I suppose you love Clinton and she can do no wrong.

Watched a recent South Park episode entitled "Douche and a Turd Sandwich". Again, IMHO, We have those two - and you can decide which name applies to the respective party nominee - currently running as candidates for the POTUS.

No matter which pathetic narcissist is victorius, we ALL lose.

Boomer Sooner

 

[humblesooner]

I think the other part of the problem is the overly sensitive mindset many of us have. Kaepernick has every right to protest anything and to speak out on things, much the same way Anita Bryant did 39 years ago on the gay lifestyle....which cost Bryant her career, her endorsements and a cowardly thrown pie in the face during a book signing show.
Kaepernick is a $19 million a year backup quarterback, raised by white parents who adopted him and who gave him every opportunity in life. But if he feels compelled to sit during the national anthem, or burn a flag, he has that right....and my indifference.

I've always maintained his "right" to do what he is doing. The fact that he will play for the Niners in their next game is proof of it. I also have the right to express my disgust with his actions. There are lots of people in this world that do things I disagree with. I have the right to disapprove of their behavior and express my opinions, just as well. I think he is a worthless human being. He's going to set down for the National Anthem until he sees significant progress in making changes? As long as all he does is set on his ***, he'll be setting for the National Anthem the rest of his life. Want to make a difference and be noticed? Start doing something positive about the problem instead of protesting by setting down. You don't have to dishonor this great country to make a point.
The reason for protesting anything is to draw attention to your cause. All of this controversy is drawing attention to his actions and not to the cause he claims to be protesting for. In the last week, how many discussions have you seen regarding BLM? Now, how many discussions about his "protest"? Probably about 1,000-to-1.
Just my opinion, but I think Kaepernick is "using" BLM for just blatant boorish behavior.

 

[IzzyGouldLiar]

Go to a Trump rally and you'll notice they're working on it.

Have you been to a BLM rally? Same mentality I would think...

 

[IzzyGouldLiar]

I've always maintained his "right" to do what he is doing. The fact that he will play for the Niners in their next game is proof of it. I also have the right to express my disgust with his actions. There are lots of people in this world that do things I disagree with. I have the right to disapprove of their behavior and express my opinions, just as well. I think he is a worthless human being. He's going to set down for the National Anthem until he sees significant progress in making changes? As long as all he does is set on his ***, he'll be setting for the National Anthem the rest of his life. Want to make a difference and be noticed? Start doing something positive about the problem instead of protesting by setting down. You don't have to dishonor this great country to make a point.
The reason for protesting anything is to draw attention to your cause. All of this controversy is drawing attention to his actions and not to the cause he claims to be protesting for. In the last week, how many discussions have you seen regarding BLM? Now, how many discussions about his "protest"? Probably about 1,000-to-1.
Just my opinion, but I think Kaepernick is "using" BLM for just blatant boorish behavior.

He has been radicalized by his Muslim gf and I think he has converted to Islam. This thing may be more about that and less about the so called "oppression" of blacks. Some strange coalitions being formed now secretly and right under our noses. Strangest case I have read was a couple of years ago in Mississippi. Did any of you read about the white girl in some backwater town down there that had lighter fluid poured down her throat and set ablaze from the inside out? At one time the state police and the FBI were very interested in a guy from Yemen who bought a store there who knew the girl and was friends with some of the local gang thugs. There was a foiled plot to blow up the bridge over the Mississippi River that connects Memphis to Arkansas. Seems this Muslim was in the state to recruit gang members to help in this and to ignite a race war down there. They think the girl spilled the beans about it to authorities and she was leaving there before they had the chance to kill her...she didn't make it. The Muslim guy fled back to Yemen and hasn't been seen since. Strange stuff fellas...