All Time Wins

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Though number of titles are most important, I've always been proud to say that we have won more games than any other team in Men's college basketball! I really hated it when we lost that to UNC for a few years. I'm not sure the exact number, but I think we lead Kansas right now by about 20 games. If we continue this trend of double digit loss seasons, I'm afraid Kansas will pass us in the next five years or less.
 

rupp876

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Though number of titles are most important, I've always been proud to say that we have won more games than any other team in Men's college basketball! I really hated it when we lost that to UNC for a few years. I'm not sure the exact number, but I think we lead Kansas right now by about 20 games. If we continue this trend of double digit loss seasons, I'm afraid Kansas will pass us in the next five years or less.
UNC was handed that lead by a crooked NCAA. When they were proven guilty of 100 times worse offenses absolutely nothing happened.
 
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SpartanState

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Though number of titles are most important, I've always been proud to say that we have won more games than any other team in Men's college basketball! I really hated it when we lost that to UNC for a few years. I'm not sure the exact number, but I think we lead Kansas right now by about 20 games. If we continue this trend of double digit loss seasons, I'm afraid Kansas will pass us in the next five years or less.

Kentucky started this sesson with a 15 game lead on Kansas (14 now) and 31 game lead on UNC (so still 31).
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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All time wins doesn't matter.

Players in the NBA.

I'd trade ten all-time wins for Barrett, Zion, and Carey because I'd also know that we'd immediately get the wins back (and then some) with that type of player on the roster under Cal's OAD expertise. Plus, the hype created builds on itself and gets you in with the next few classes of elites.

As it is, I feel like UK is a car without gas right now when it comes to all-time wins, trying to coast to the nearest gas station before we get stalled on the side of the road.

A collection of elite guys gives to 30 to 38 wins and usually pretty decent plus wins net on Kansas in an individual year.

By the way, Kansas only trails us by fourteen wins.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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I'd trade ten all-time wins for Barrett, Zion, and Carey because I'd also know that we'd immediately get the wins back (and then some) with that type of player on the roster under Cal's OAD expertise. Plus, the hype created builds on itself and gets you in with the next few classes of elites.

As it is, I feel like UK is a car without gas right now when it comes to all-time wins, trying to coast to the nearest gas station before we get stalled on the side of the road.

A collection of elite guys gives to 30 to 38 wins and usually pretty decent plus wins net on Kansas in an individual year.

By the way, Kansas only trails us by fourteen wins.
Wow 14! We could easily be passed in the next 2 seasons if this trend continues, and it appears that it definitely will.
 

SpartanState

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Wow 14! We could easily be passed in the next 2 seasons if this trend continues, and it appears that it definitely will.

Since Cal took over Kentucky, he has only lost 4 games in the all-time win total from Kansas (including this season). He has gained 27 wins from UNC.

Since Cal took over at UK(including the current season):

Self - 286 wins
Cal - 282 wins
Coach K - 276 wins
Roy - 255 wins

Cal and Self are fairly even in wins this decade. Not sure Kansas would ever be able to catch Kentucky in all-time wins while UK has Cal.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Since Cal took over Kentucky, he has only lost 4 games in the all-time win total from Kansas (including this season). He has gained 27 wins from UNC.

Since Cal took over at UK(including the current season):

Self - 286 wins
Cal - 282 wins
Coach K - 276 wins
Roy - 255 wins

Cal and Self are fairly even in wins this decade. Not sure Kansas would ever be able to catch Kentucky in all-time wins while UK has Cal.

Interesting fact. Duke holds the record for most wins in a decade at 291 from 2000-2009. It appears Kansas, Kentucky and Duke will all surpass that, and probably all surpass 300 wins for the decade.

There's also this:

The last three+ years (counting this season) Kansas has won 103 games to Kentucky's 92 games.

They're netting an average of over 3 wins/season on us right now.

That's troubling, to say the least.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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Since Cal took over Kentucky, he has only lost 4 games in the all-time win total from Kansas (including this season). He has gained 27 wins from UNC.

Since Cal took over at UK(including the current season):

Self - 286 wins
Cal - 282 wins
Coach K - 276 wins
Roy - 255 wins

Cal and Self are fairly even in wins this decade. Not sure Kansas would ever be able to catch Kentucky in all-time wins while UK has Cal.
The way we are trending now it's very possible Kansas could pass us next year.
 

John Henry

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Since Cal took over Kentucky, he has only lost 4 games in the all-time win total from Kansas (including this season). He has gained 27 wins from UNC.

Since Cal took over at UK(including the current season):

Self - 286 wins
Cal - 282 wins
Coach K - 276 wins
Roy - 255 wins

Cal and Self are fairly even in wins this decade. Not sure Kansas would ever be able to catch Kentucky in all-time wins while UK has Cal.
If Cal does not reverse the trend he has been on since 2015 it will happen. And maybe by the end of the decade.
 

SpartanState

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Let's take worse case scenario this year for UK. Kentucky loses 3 more non con games (UNC, KU & 1 of Utah/Lousiville). They will go no worse than 12-6 in SEC and probably win at least 1 game in SECT and NCAAT. That would put them at 22-13 on the year.

Kansas would have to go 37-3 just to tie UK. That is their best case scenario, assuming they get a healthy Azubuike back and DeSousa is ruled eligible.

Likely UK wins more than 22 and KU wins less than 37. So, any passing in all-time wins ain't happening this year.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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Let's take worse case scenario this year for UK. Kentucky loses 3 more non con games (UNC, KU & 1 of Utah/Lousiville). They will go no worse than 12-6 in SEC and probably win at least 1 game in SECT and NCAAT. That would put them at 22-13 on the year.

Kansas would have to go 37-3 just to tie UK. That is their best case scenario, assuming they get a healthy Azubuike back and DeSousa is ruled eligible.

Likely UK wins more than 22 and KU wins less than 37. So, any passing in all-time wins ain't happening this year.
It definitely won't happen this year, but it could happen as early as the end of next year if we keep trending the way we have been.
 
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DonkeyDwayne

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Though number of titles are most important, I've always been proud to say that we have won more games than any other team in Men's college basketball! I really hated it when we lost that to UNC for a few years. I'm not sure the exact number, but I think we lead Kansas right now by about 20 games. If we continue this trend of double digit loss seasons, I'm afraid Kansas will pass us in the next five years or less.
Most wins is the most ignorant stat to brag about. Differences in league strength makes it unimportant.
 

MdWIldcat55

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Kansas will forfeit every game De Sousa played in. That's absolutely inevitable. He played after his camp accepted cash. That's open and shut. It's the only reason he isn't playing now.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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Most wins is the most ignorant stat to brag about. Differences in league strength makes it unimportant.
Well that would be just like saying that it's ignorant to brag about are 8 titles, since they all happened in the past, and some of them when there was not as many teams in the tournament. Yes all titles are important to me, and so are all wins!!
 

Mike-D

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Though number of titles are most important, I've always been proud to say that we have won more games than any other team in Men's college basketball! I really hated it when we lost that to UNC for a few years. I'm not sure the exact number, but I think we lead Kansas right now by about 20 games. If we continue this trend of double digit loss seasons, I'm afraid Kansas will pass us in the next five years or less.

Thanks for clearing it up. We needed something else to ***** about.
 

DonkeyDwayne

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Well that would be just like saying that it's ignorant to brag about are 8 titles, since they all happened in the past, and some of them when there was not as many teams in the tournament. Yes all titles are important to me, and so are all wins!!
Completely unrelated.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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Most wins is the most ignorant stat to brag about. Differences in league strength makes it unimportant.
If not being able to say we have more wins than anyone is unimportant to you, that's your opinion and you have the right to that, but to say all time wins is unimportant that is a very ignorant statement. Winning is what matters, and every win goes toward all time wins, and therefore every win is important.
 

DonkeyDwayne

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If not being able to say we have more wins than anyone is unimportant to you, that's your opinion and you have the right to that, but to say all time wins is unimportant that is a very ignorant statement. Winning is what matters, and every win goes toward all time wins, and therefore every win is important.
No. Ignorant is claiming wins matter when you have differences in conference strengths, play the sisters of the blind in the SEC every year, and equating that to conferences that care about basketball.

It is like Florida bragging about having a winning football record against us.
 

BigBlueTom1_rivals

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No. Ignorant is claiming wins matter when you have differences in conference strengths, play the sisters of the blind in the SEC every year, and equating that to conferences that care about basketball.

It is like Florida bragging about having a winning football record against us.
All wins absolutely matter. We should have easily beaten Seton Hall, but we lost. All wins make a difference in how you are seeded in the tournament, and the path to achieving the ultimate goal of winning the Title. Again every win counts and matters!!
 

DonkeyDwayne

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All wins absolutely matter. We should have easily beaten Seton Hall, but we lost. All wins make a difference in how you are seeded in the tournament, and the path to achieving the ultimate goal of winning the Title. Again every win counts and matters!!
So beating Florida in 1995 matters today?
 

sluggercatfan

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Very stupid statement. I realize this is just another slap at Cal but if you really believe he feels that way then there is no help for you.
Did he not say that? What happened to the emphasis of passing /catching ucla? You never hear anything about that anymore? Wonder why?
 
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G-PIP

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Pitino really did great things for us.
He didn't do anything great for me. Now, Pitino did win a lot of games - like Calipari - and it was often entertaining to watch his teams; but an IU fan could say the same about Bob Knight. If character matters, Pitino was not a good guy on basically any level when he was UK.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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He didn't do anything great for me. Now, Pitino did win a lot of games - like Calipari - and it was often entertaining to watch his teams; but an IU fan could say the same about Bob Knight. If character matters, Pitino was not a good guy on basically any level when he was UK.

Just in case you never knew..... Its been said that Cal was seeing Ellen while he was married to his first wife..... would that matter to you?
 
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G-PIP

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Just in case you never knew..... Its been said that Cal was seeing Ellen while he was married to his first wife..... would that matter to you?
No. That's none of my business - whether it's Pitino or Calipari. My feelings about Pitino have nothing to do with that kind of stuff. It's about the way he treated people and the way he thought of Kentuckians. Pitino was a jerk of the highest order and generally undesirable human being who won basketball games. Nothing more.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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No. That's none of my business - whether it's Pitino or Calipari. My feelings about Pitino have nothing to do with that kind of stuff. It's about the way he treated people and the way he thought of Kentuckians. Pitino was a jerk of the highest order and generally undesirable human being who won basketball games. Nothing more.

doesnt bother me any... most of the best coaches are D**ks to the average people. thats what happens with money ..... way too much... they try to fit in with high society and unfortunately too much of high society is belittling everyone else.