Analyzing the weaknesses of Penn State 2025-2026 (long post)

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It was a good, but not great year. It sounds crazy to say this when Penn State broke the team points record (yet again) and crowned 4 individual champions. That said, they left a lot of points on the table and could have had 6 champs. You have to feel very bad for guys like Van Ness and Welsh who have both been so close to the top yet haven't been able to get it done. Here is my weight by weight analysis of the wrestlers and how they can improve.

125 Lilledahl - Luke has improved greatly and he really doesn't have many weaknesses. He's obviously elite from neutral and has become much more judicious in how he attacks. He's also gotten much better at scrambling and defending against scrambles. I would say the one weakness is he doesn't have much of a top game. I don't believe he had any falls this year and I don't really recall him scoring many back points either. This is the one area he could make a lot of improvement in.

133 Blaze - Marcus has skill and speed. He also isn't much of a rider and at times has struggled to get out on bottom versus elite guys like Davino and Seidel. I think the biggest issue for Marcus is strength. He's certainly not a big 133 pounder so I think adding some power would help him greatly. He also needs to open up his leg attacks more against elite guys instead of trying to snap and run around. It just doesn't work against top guys.

141 Davis - Braeden wasn't supposed to start this year so his poor performance was a bit expected. His biggest weakness in prior years was an uncanny overconfidence in his scrambling ability (i.e. he would often put himself in horrible positions thinking he could scramble out of it when he should have just bailed). Davis is still not great at scrambling but his biggest problem this year was his gas tank. He could come out blazing for 3 minutes (see his first match against Brock Hardy where he scored 2 first period takedowns) and then fall over exhausted for the rest of the match. I truly believe Davis never fully got in match shape at 141. Let him redshirt for real next year and hopefully he can get in full match shape. If he does that and avoids scrambling I think he can All-American again.

149 SVN - My heart breaks for Shayne. He was so fun to watch this year with his reckless style. However, this was also his greatest weakness. I'd say in 4-5 matches this year he gave up to first takedown and had to rally back to win. Against a guy like Valencia who was just as aggressive this did not work. Shayne's baseline defense needs work. I get his pressure with stalking forward constantly beats most guys but it also leaves him vulnerable to attack, which is what was his demise in the finals.

157 Duke - Duke got hosed versus Robideau. That said, his biggest weakness I think was his pacing and gas tank in just a few matches. In his first match against Antrell his pace was way too high which led to him gassing out. I think he just needs to wrestle a bit more tactical against top guys and he will become a champion. Honestly, I think had the cradle versus Robideau been called correctly Duke would have beaten Taylor in the finals.

165 Mesenbrink - Hard to point to any weakness here other than Hepner was able to make life difficult with his scrambling ability. Maybe a weakness is his overconfidence in his singing ability?

174 Haines - What a career for Levi. Also hard to find a weakness here. He wrestled judiciously against Minto - perhaps he could have attacked a bit more? Crazy that Levi didn't even redshirt - 4 straight years and done, so rare now.

184 Welsh - McEnelly was always a coinflip match. Hard to find a weakness other than maybe he should have been a bit more aggressive early in the match. Feel for Rocco, since he actually was much more offensive this year than at Ohio State. 184 was just a minefield.

197 Barr - Not much to say here. He was the best guy here by far. He wrestled Merill a bit more tactically than perhaps he had to. I think he could have pushed for the major if he really wanted to.

285 Mirasola - Cole is just too small. 6'0 220 doesn't work at the D-1 level unless you are Kyle Snyder. Cole's problems all stem from being undersized and underpowered. He can get to legs on anyone but can't finish on the big guys. He also can't ride or get out from bottom. He has the skills, but not the size. Can he put on 20-25 pounds of good weight in 1 season? It's doubtful since he is small framed for a heavy. I think both Mirasolas could be elite at 197 though.

Overall the team's most common weakness is tactical - match pacing and strategy. I'm sure Cael and staff will work on this. I expect Penn State to win next year but 2027-2028 will be a bona fide battle. Ok State very well could win it all with their super freshman and incoming talent.
 
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backdrft76-1

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Can we please ban this loser. He’s ruined multiple boards already no need to let it happen here.
Just stop. Put him on Ignore if you don't like him. It'll make your life better.

More people need to use the Ignore feature around here. Don't complain unless you've done it and it's not working out for you. Hell, Ironbird dominated the Rivals board in his 1 dedicated thread because people refused to put him on Ignore, they still clicked on it, and then they still complained about him. Makes zero sense.
 

Atrain83

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Just stop. Put him on Ignore if you don't like him. It'll make your life better.

More people need to use the Ignore feature around here. Don't complain unless you've done it and it's not working out for you. Hell, Ironbird dominated the Rivals board in his 1 dedicated thread because people refused to put him on Ignore, they still clicked on it, and then they still complained about him. Makes zero sense.
Thanks for the heads up, just put on ignore.
 

mh-larch

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I know Jimmy has done his fair share of trolling on other sites, but I didn't find his post here objectionable. I think much of it was on the mark. Not everything, but many good points. Is this a case of people reacting to the name rather than actually reading the content?
 

donboy6499

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I know Jimmy has done his fair share of trolling on other sites, but I didn't find his post here objectionable. I think much of it was on the mark. Not everything, but many good points. Is this a case of people reacting to the name rather than actually reading the content?
It was a good, but not great year.

This disqualifies everything after it, which was the subtle troll from the start. I am not even familiar with this poster, know no history or anything.
 

WV lion

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I know Jimmy has done his fair share of trolling on other sites, but I didn't find his post here objectionable. I think much of it was on the mark. Not everything, but many good points. Is this a case of people reacting to the name rather than actually reading the content?
I totally agree. If you take your blue tinted glasses off, he makes good points and actually praises most of the wrestlers. Many people on here have beaten up on Davis and Cole.
 
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donboy6499

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I was banned from intermat for threatening to dox him to shut him up because it would have also doxxed some of his other alts and people would be surprised with who he really is.
Right, clearly one of Willie's boys (or Willie himself, who talks him up on Baschamania).
 
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donboy6499

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Perhaps the sign of a master troll is to not make it obvious he is trolling?
The Sopranos Wink GIF
 

Anon231980

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It was a good, but not great year. It sounds crazy to say this when Penn State broke the team points record (yet again) and crowned 4 individual champions. That said, they left a lot of points on the table and could have had 6 champs. You have to feel very bad for guys like Van Ness and Welsh who have both been so close to the top yet haven't been able to get it done. Here is my weight by weight analysis of the wrestlers and how they can improve.

125 Lilledahl - Luke has improved greatly and he really doesn't have many weaknesses. He's obviously elite from neutral and has become much more judicious in how he attacks. He's also gotten much better at scrambling and defending against scrambles. I would say the one weakness is he doesn't have much of a top game. I don't believe he had any falls this year and I don't really recall him scoring many back points either. This is the one area he could make a lot of improvement in.

133 Blaze - Marcus has skill and speed. He also isn't much of a rider and at times has struggled to get out on bottom versus elite guys like Davino and Seidel. I think the biggest issue for Marcus is strength. He's certainly not a big 133 pounder so I think adding some power would help him greatly. He also needs to open up his leg attacks more against elite guys instead of trying to snap and run around. It just doesn't work against top guys.

141 Davis - Braeden wasn't supposed to start this year so his poor performance was a bit expected. His biggest weakness in prior years was an uncanny overconfidence in his scrambling ability (i.e. he would often put himself in horrible positions thinking he could scramble out of it when he should have just bailed). Davis is still not great at scrambling but his biggest problem this year was his gas tank. He could come out blazing for 3 minutes (see his first match against Brock Hardy where he scored 2 first period takedowns) and then fall over exhausted for the rest of the match. I truly believe Davis never fully got in match shape at 141. Let him redshirt for real next year and hopefully he can get in full match shape. If he does that and avoids scrambling I think he can All-American again.

149 SVN - My heart breaks for Shayne. He was so fun to watch this year with his reckless style. However, this was also his greatest weakness. I'd say in 4-5 matches this year he gave up to first takedown and had to rally back to win. Against a guy like Valencia who was just as aggressive this did not work. Shayne's baseline defense needs work. I get his pressure with stalking forward constantly beats most guys but it also leaves him vulnerable to attack, which is what was his demise in the finals.

157 Duke - Duke got hosed versus Robideau. That said, his biggest weakness I think was his pacing and gas tank in just a few matches. In his first match against Antrell his pace was way too high which led to him gassing out. I think he just needs to wrestle a bit more tactical against top guys and he will become a champion. Honestly, I think had the cradle versus Robideau been called correctly Duke would have beaten Taylor in the finals.

165 Mesenbrink - Hard to point to any weakness here other than Hepner was able to make life difficult with his scrambling ability. Maybe a weakness is his overconfidence in his singing ability?

174 Haines - What a career for Levi. Also hard to find a weakness here. He wrestled judiciously against Minto - perhaps he could have attacked a bit more? Crazy that Levi didn't even redshirt - 4 straight years and done, so rare now.

184 Welsh - McEnelly was always a coinflip match. Hard to find a weakness other than maybe he should have been a bit more aggressive early in the match. Feel for Rocco, since he actually was much more offensive this year than at Ohio State. 184 was just a minefield.

197 Barr - Not much to say here. He was the best guy here by far. He wrestled Merill a bit more tactically than perhaps he had to. I think he could have pushed for the major if he really wanted to.

285 Mirasola - Cole is just too small. 6'0 220 doesn't work at the D-1 level unless you are Kyle Snyder. Cole's problems all stem from being undersized and underpowered. He can get to legs on anyone but can't finish on the big guys. He also can't ride or get out from bottom. He has the skills, but not the size. Can he put on 20-25 pounds of good weight in 1 season? It's doubtful since he is small framed for a heavy. I think both Mirasolas could be elite at 197 though.

Overall the team's most common weakness is tactical - match pacing and strategy. I'm sure Cael and staff will work on this. I expect Penn State to win next year but 2027-2028 will be a bona fide battle. Ok State very well could win it all with their super freshman and incoming talent.
You need to go to the lifetime portal
 

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It was a good, but not great year. It sounds crazy to say this when Penn State broke the team points record (yet again) and crowned 4 individual champions. That said, they left a lot of points on the table and could have had 6 champs. You have to feel very bad for guys like Van Ness and Welsh who have both been so close to the top yet haven't been able to get it done. Here is my weight by weight analysis of the wrestlers and how they can improve.

125 Lilledahl - Luke has improved greatly and he really doesn't have many weaknesses. He's obviously elite from neutral and has become much more judicious in how he attacks. He's also gotten much better at scrambling and defending against scrambles. I would say the one weakness is he doesn't have much of a top game. I don't believe he had any falls this year and I don't really recall him scoring many back points either. This is the one area he could make a lot of improvement in.

133 Blaze - Marcus has skill and speed. He also isn't much of a rider and at times has struggled to get out on bottom versus elite guys like Davino and Seidel. I think the biggest issue for Marcus is strength. He's certainly not a big 133 pounder so I think adding some power would help him greatly. He also needs to open up his leg attacks more against elite guys instead of trying to snap and run around. It just doesn't work against top guys.

141 Davis - Braeden wasn't supposed to start this year so his poor performance was a bit expected. His biggest weakness in prior years was an uncanny overconfidence in his scrambling ability (i.e. he would often put himself in horrible positions thinking he could scramble out of it when he should have just bailed). Davis is still not great at scrambling but his biggest problem this year was his gas tank. He could come out blazing for 3 minutes (see his first match against Brock Hardy where he scored 2 first period takedowns) and then fall over exhausted for the rest of the match. I truly believe Davis never fully got in match shape at 141. Let him redshirt for real next year and hopefully he can get in full match shape. If he does that and avoids scrambling I think he can All-American again.

149 SVN - My heart breaks for Shayne. He was so fun to watch this year with his reckless style. However, this was also his greatest weakness. I'd say in 4-5 matches this year he gave up to first takedown and had to rally back to win. Against a guy like Valencia who was just as aggressive this did not work. Shayne's baseline defense needs work. I get his pressure with stalking forward constantly beats most guys but it also leaves him vulnerable to attack, which is what was his demise in the finals.

157 Duke - Duke got hosed versus Robideau. That said, his biggest weakness I think was his pacing and gas tank in just a few matches. In his first match against Antrell his pace was way too high which led to him gassing out. I think he just needs to wrestle a bit more tactical against top guys and he will become a champion. Honestly, I think had the cradle versus Robideau been called correctly Duke would have beaten Taylor in the finals.

165 Mesenbrink - Hard to point to any weakness here other than Hepner was able to make life difficult with his scrambling ability. Maybe a weakness is his overconfidence in his singing ability?

174 Haines - What a career for Levi. Also hard to find a weakness here. He wrestled judiciously against Minto - perhaps he could have attacked a bit more? Crazy that Levi didn't even redshirt - 4 straight years and done, so rare now.

184 Welsh - McEnelly was always a coinflip match. Hard to find a weakness other than maybe he should have been a bit more aggressive early in the match. Feel for Rocco, since he actually was much more offensive this year than at Ohio State. 184 was just a minefield.

197 Barr - Not much to say here. He was the best guy here by far. He wrestled Merill a bit more tactically than perhaps he had to. I think he could have pushed for the major if he really wanted to.

285 Mirasola - Cole is just too small. 6'0 220 doesn't work at the D-1 level unless you are Kyle Snyder. Cole's problems all stem from being undersized and underpowered. He can get to legs on anyone but can't finish on the big guys. He also can't ride or get out from bottom. He has the skills, but not the size. Can he put on 20-25 pounds of good weight in 1 season? It's doubtful since he is small framed for a heavy. I think both Mirasolas could be elite at 197 though.

Overall the team's most common weakness is tactical - match pacing and strategy. I'm sure Cael and staff will work on this. I expect Penn State to win next year but 2027-2028 will be a bona fide battle. Ok State very well could win it all with their super freshman and incoming talent.
LETs not be spoiled beyond belief
1. anytime you win an NCAA championship it is a GREAT YEAR... we won 3 straight and 13 of 15
2. when you set a mark for most points scored.... GREAT YEAR.. we did this 3 years in a row now
3. When you break the all time dual meet record... GREAT YEAR... and it is still going!
4. When you have a NATIONAL CHAMPION... GREAT YEAR... we had 4 (should have had 6)
5. When you have an AA... great year... WE HAD 8 this year!
6. When you when a championship and return most of your team... GREAT YEAR
7. When you return most of your team and the incoming class is loaded... GREAT YEAR (recruiting wise)
8. When you have a wrestler win the HODGE and the next closest guy is his teammate GREAT YEAR
9. And the Hodge winner is only a JR (and the next closest guy is a soph) GREAT YEAR
10. When the next closest opponent is 50 points behind you at the NCAAs ... GREAT YEAR

THIS WAS NOT A GOOD YEAR... THIS IS ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREAT YEARS IN WRSTLING HISTORY!
I agree with most of your indiviual analysis however
Except Cole...and SVN...
Its not that SVNs style didnt work vs Valencia... he got robbed as did PJ

This was another GREAT YEAR.. and arguably the greatest to date!
 

Chaz89

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TY Coach Ryan’s son.

Jason Nolf wanted to see if your are still not doing well.
 

JimNazium

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Any of the stat guys here have NF points for PSU wrestlers in the tournament? I didnt see much scoring on top and wanted to compare with past tournaments.
 

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I was banned from intermat for threatening to dox him to shut him up because it would have also doxxed some of his other alts and people would be surprised with who he really is.
So who is he? Come out and say it or maybe you're a troll also
 
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orange nole

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It was a good, but not great year.

This disqualifies everything after it, which was the subtle troll from the start. I am not even familiar with this poster, know no history or anything.
Thank you. It was the greatest year in NCAA wrestling history. Doesn’t feel that way sometimes because Penn State setting records isn’t “news” anymore, but rather the norm. Doesn’t make it untrue. Strange times.
 
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donboy6499

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You can't say you know who a troll is then refuse to say who the troll is.
Sure he can. He doesn’t want to get permanently banned.
But saying he knows who it is without saying who it is establishes the OP knows better than his posts, and is just trolling for engagement.
 

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Even if I did know ;) I wouldn't. Coastal is a solid dude and I'd say a purist. He really just wants to have solid wrestling discussions so someone like Jimmy and his moronic posts is his kryptonite
That's fine but the "people would be surprised who he really is" implies he is one of ours. That needs to be debunked at the minimum.
 

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Sure he can. He doesn’t want to get permanently banned.
But saying he knows who it is without saying who it is establishes the OP knows better than his posts, and is just trolling for engagement.
Which is understandable unless he is one of our own. That needs to be denied. Cinnebon has been a troll for a very long time and we certainly don't want one of our own being a troll.
 

donboy6499

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Which is understandable unless he is one of our own. That needs to be denied. Cinnebon has been a troll for a very long time and we certainly don't want one of our own being a troll.
It’s a pretty well known media member in wrestling circles, this is what I’ve been told by people I trust. Harmless, but not a PSU regular at all. Someone trying to bait honest posters to laugh at them.
 

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It was a good, but not great year. It sounds crazy to say this when Penn State broke the team points record (yet again) and crowned 4 individual champions. That said, they left a lot of points on the table and could have had 6 champs. You have to feel very bad for guys like Van Ness and Welsh who have both been so close to the top yet haven't been able to get it done. Here is my weight by weight analysis of the wrestlers and how they can improve.

125 Lilledahl - Luke has improved greatly and he really doesn't have many weaknesses. He's obviously elite from neutral and has become much more judicious in how he attacks. He's also gotten much better at scrambling and defending against scrambles. I would say the one weakness is he doesn't have much of a top game. I don't believe he had any falls this year and I don't really recall him scoring many back points either. This is the one area he could make a lot of improvement in.

133 Blaze - Marcus has skill and speed. He also isn't much of a rider and at times has struggled to get out on bottom versus elite guys like Davino and Seidel. I think the biggest issue for Marcus is strength. He's certainly not a big 133 pounder so I think adding some power would help him greatly. He also needs to open up his leg attacks more against elite guys instead of trying to snap and run around. It just doesn't work against top guys.

141 Davis - Braeden wasn't supposed to start this year so his poor performance was a bit expected. His biggest weakness in prior years was an uncanny overconfidence in his scrambling ability (i.e. he would often put himself in horrible positions thinking he could scramble out of it when he should have just bailed). Davis is still not great at scrambling but his biggest problem this year was his gas tank. He could come out blazing for 3 minutes (see his first match against Brock Hardy where he scored 2 first period takedowns) and then fall over exhausted for the rest of the match. I truly believe Davis never fully got in match shape at 141. Let him redshirt for real next year and hopefully he can get in full match shape. If he does that and avoids scrambling I think he can All-American again.

149 SVN - My heart breaks for Shayne. He was so fun to watch this year with his reckless style. However, this was also his greatest weakness. I'd say in 4-5 matches this year he gave up to first takedown and had to rally back to win. Against a guy like Valencia who was just as aggressive this did not work. Shayne's baseline defense needs work. I get his pressure with stalking forward constantly beats most guys but it also leaves him vulnerable to attack, which is what was his demise in the finals.

157 Duke - Duke got hosed versus Robideau. That said, his biggest weakness I think was his pacing and gas tank in just a few matches. In his first match against Antrell his pace was way too high which led to him gassing out. I think he just needs to wrestle a bit more tactical against top guys and he will become a champion. Honestly, I think had the cradle versus Robideau been called correctly Duke would have beaten Taylor in the finals.

165 Mesenbrink - Hard to point to any weakness here other than Hepner was able to make life difficult with his scrambling ability. Maybe a weakness is his overconfidence in his singing ability?

174 Haines - What a career for Levi. Also hard to find a weakness here. He wrestled judiciously against Minto - perhaps he could have attacked a bit more? Crazy that Levi didn't even redshirt - 4 straight years and done, so rare now.

184 Welsh - McEnelly was always a coinflip match. Hard to find a weakness other than maybe he should have been a bit more aggressive early in the match. Feel for Rocco, since he actually was much more offensive this year than at Ohio State. 184 was just a minefield.

197 Barr - Not much to say here. He was the best guy here by far. He wrestled Merill a bit more tactically than perhaps he had to. I think he could have pushed for the major if he really wanted to.

285 Mirasola - Cole is just too small. 6'0 220 doesn't work at the D-1 level unless you are Kyle Snyder. Cole's problems all stem from being undersized and underpowered. He can get to legs on anyone but can't finish on the big guys. He also can't ride or get out from bottom. He has the skills, but not the size. Can he put on 20-25 pounds of good weight in 1 season? It's doubtful since he is small framed for a heavy. I think both Mirasolas could be elite at 197 though.

Overall the team's most common weakness is tactical - match pacing and strategy. I'm sure Cael and staff will work on this. I expect Penn State to win next year but 2027-2028 will be a bona fide battle. Ok State very well could win it all with their super freshman and incoming talent.
Can we just analyze the weakness of Cinnabons shtick? It somewhat worked on Intermat. It somewhat works on the Hawkeye forum. Let's not let it work here.
 

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Just stop. Put him on Ignore if you don't like him. It'll make your life better.

More people need to use the Ignore feature around here. Don't complain unless you've done it and it's not working out for you. Hell, Ironbird dominated the Rivals board in his 1 dedicated thread because people refused to put him on Ignore, they still clicked on it, and then they still complained about him. Makes zero sense.
I like your posts. I disagree on this one. I feel that posters who offer absolutely nothing outside of intentional trolling should be banned. It shouldn't be on the community to ignore him. You should ignore those you personally don't like. The moderators should ban those who intentionally troll and offer zero substance.
 
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I'm not getting banned from here also.
OK - how about a few hints to point those who are curious in the proper direction.

BTW - I don't find this particular post objectionable. I would agree with most of what he said except that it was a lot more than just [another] good year.
 

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Jimmy, youre supposed to troll the cesspool, not make this place one.

but to debunk the OP, its a team tournament, the team did better than any team ever, even if not every individual wrestler reached AA or a championship. things happen. thats why its wrestled on mats and not paper
 
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Matter7172

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The problem was his intro was idiotic. It clearly wasn't a good year - it was the best NCAA tournament any team has ever had. And, yes, it is crazy to say it was only a good year.

His points about each wrestler were, for the most part, on point and a few of them need to improve if they want to be at the top of the podium next year.

But you can't lose your audience with your first two sentences of a post like that. So not a great post, but an okay one.