Any chance Fran Brown?

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Fran Brown’s current staff is impressive.

Notable names

Offensive coordinator- Jeff Nixon, yeah that Jeff Nixon (welcome home)
Defensive coordinator- Elijah robinson (welcome home)
Nunzio Campinile (former Rutgers interim head coach)
Josh Gattis, offensive quality control
Dwight Freeney, player development
 
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Fran Brown’s current staff is impressive.

Notable names

Offensive coordinator- Jeff Nixon, yeah that Jeff Nixon (welcome home)
Defensive coordinator- Elijah robinson (welcome home)
Nunzio Campinile (former Rutgers interim head coach)
Josh Gattis, offensive quality control
Dwight Freeney, player development
A more likely list in a top three then no particular order.

Cinetti
Rhule
Brady
Key
Stein
Diaz
Meyer
Kiffin
Brown
 
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The next head coach is going to be Rhule or Terri Smith (if he impresses the rest of the season). Cignetti will be 65 years old next year. Way to old to hire him as the head coach. Obviously, since Penn State doesn't care about money, they will likely pay a few million dollars to a search team and then hire Rhule or Smith.
 

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I respect Coach Brown, but at this point, you can’t say that he has a higher ceiling or even the same ceiling as James Franklin. It’s interesting right now that some of the more prominent national analysts think we’re absolutely insane to have terminated Franklin.
 

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I respect Coach Brown, but at this point, you can’t say that he has a higher ceiling or even the same ceiling as James Franklin. It’s interesting right now that some of the more prominent national analysts think we’re absolutely insane to have terminated Franklin.
I get where they are coming from considering he won 70 percent of his games and was just in the national semi finals last year. Having said that because of the exorbitant salaries college football is more of a year to year job now. You don’t get paid 8 million a year to be 3-3 or get beat by Ohio State every year. Coaches have to take the good with the bad.
 
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The next head coach is going to be Rhule or Terri Smith (if he impresses the rest of the season). Cignetti will be 65 years old next year. Way to old to hire him as the head coach. Obviously, since Penn State doesn't care about money, they will likely pay a few million dollars to a search team and then hire Rhule or Smith.
If Cignetti says no then maybe Rhule. Kraft isn't choosing Rhule just because they are pals and Rhule is a hometown boy. Kraft will go to the proven winners first. The PS moneybag has expanded they proved that with the DC. This will not be a middling hire. Also, Adidas is now our friend.
 
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I respect Coach Brown, but at this point, you can’t say that he has a higher ceiling or even the same ceiling as James Franklin. It’s interesting right now that some of the more prominent national analysts think we’re absolutely insane to have terminated Franklin.
Franklin had a lot of people who really "believed." I think too many of those people (especially analysts) never watched the games and saw the warts.

Franklin was a superb salesman. He sold himself, and sold Penn State to a lot of good recruits. There's more to being a HC though than selling or setting goals. A HC has to perform. Franklin mostly did that where he should have, but didn't when he really needed to (e.g. - Ohio State, Michigan, top 10 teams).
 

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I respect Coach Brown, but at this point, you can’t say that he has a higher ceiling or even the same ceiling as James Franklin. It’s interesting right now that some of the more prominent national analysts think we’re absolutely insane to have terminated Franklin.
These are some of the same analysts who clown on us for not winning any big games. Major disconnect
 

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Dynamic recruiter, NE guy, worked with Kraft.
I included him in my list but I'm not sure the wine and roses crowd at PS who feign that Ivey League persona could handle Browns antics or press conferences. Those little old ladies in the second row would faint ;)
 

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I included him in my list but I'm not sure the wine and roses crowd at PS who feign that Ivey League persona could handle Browns antics or press conferences. Those little old ladies in the second row would faint ;)
I loved how he made the team do laps after a bad performance!
 

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Franklin had a lot of people who really "believed." I think too many of those people (especially analysts) never watched the games and saw the warts.

Franklin was a superb salesman. He sold himself, and sold Penn State to a lot of good recruits. There's more to being a HC though than selling or setting goals. A HC has to perform. Franklin mostly did that where he should have, but didn't when he really needed to (e.g. - Ohio State, Michigan, top 10 teams).
Exactly. The things he was superb at are increasingly irrelevant. It’s about player contracts, development, and winning strategy. Franklin was never going to outcoach anyone
 

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If Cignetti says no then maybe Rhule. Kraft isn't choosing Rhule just because they are pals and Rhule is a hometown boy. Kraft will go to the proven winners first. The PS moneybag has expanded they proved that with the DC. This will not be a middling hire. Also, Adidas is now our friend.
Cignetti has a total contract value of $72 million, with the contract running through November 30, 2032, He has a 56.7m buyout. Add to that that he has succeeded at Indiana and has his club in the top 5 for the first time ever, there is zero and I mean zero pressure to produce more than he already has. He can stay and build on his success rather than come to a toxic environment that will be intensified by the mass exodus of players and recruits. What is the incentive for a man his mid-60s? Rebuild Penn State? Why? He has already accomplished this at Indiana which was a much harder sell.

As for Rhule, he has a career record of 2 and 23 against AP Top 25-ranked opponents as a college head coach, which includes a 1-11 record at Baylor and a 1-12 record at Nebraska. He also lost 14 consecutive games to ranked teams from late 2016 until until October 2024 when they were obliterated by Indiana. To me that is James Franklin 2.0. He would be good at steadying the program after its jump off the cliff, but he will not be the guy to beat the top tier teams he faces. Or, high floor, low ceiling.

This is arguably the best job open at the moment, but whoever steps up to do it needs to have nerves of steel to tune out fan expectations which will be unreasonable.
 

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Personally i like Manny Diaz, seemed popular with the team and knows the game. He's
two years removed from the staff, knows the strengths and weaknesses of this staff.
You are getting the same with Rhule, who seems to be who the outsiders are pushing.
 

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Personally i like Manny Diaz, seemed popular with the team and knows the game. He's
two years removed from the staff, knows the strengths and weaknesses of this staff.
You are getting the same with Rhule, who seems to be who the outsiders are pushing.
Plus he has deep ties to the state of Florida recruiting
 

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Plus he has deep ties to the state of Florida recruiting
And great hair. People love him here in the Triangle. Great coach who took his lumps at various places. His defensive strategy is really keeping Duke in games.
 

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I respect Coach Brown, but at this point, you can’t say that he has a higher ceiling or even the same ceiling as James Franklin. It’s interesting right now that some of the more prominent national analysts think we’re absolutely insane to have terminated Franklin.
Honest question, who said it was insane?
 

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A more likely list in a top three then no particular order.

Cinetti
Rhule
Brady
Key
Stein
Diaz
Meyer
Kiffin
Brown
I don't understand the love for Matt Rhule except for the connection to Paterno. So many people were all over Franklin for not winning the big game. What has Rhule done to convince people that he would be as good or better? I don't see it.

I hated Meyer at Florida and OSU but I would take him in a minute, although I doubt that the possibility really exists.

Give me Kiffin or Diaz.
 

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I don't understand the love for Matt Rhule except for the connection to Paterno. So many people were all over Franklin for not winning the big game. What has Rhule done to convince people that he would be as good or better? I don't see it.

I hated Meyer at Florida and OSU but I would take him in a minute, although I doubt that the possibility really exists.

Give me Kiffin or Diaz.
If Terry Smith can produce after that press conference don't count him out. I've always hated Kiffin, but he can coach. My guess is he would stay in the SEC and take the FL job if it opens. Diaz wouldn't be bad either, but I think we can do better.

I just believe we will end up with a great coach. PS as they say isn't your father's Oldsmobile it's a new era financially and you can't manage from a place of fear today they have to swing for the fences, and I think they will.
 

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I'm ok with 1 and 3, Stein, Diaz and Martin. Brady really interests me.
I guess if we actually knew the real list it would be helpful but most of the names mentioned would be good in their own right. Guessing or getting that homerun hire is just tough even if you're a Pat Kraft with a bag full of Bagels ;)
 
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I guess if we actually knew the real list it would be helpful but most of the names mentioned would be good in their own right. Guessing or getting that homerun hire is just tough even if you're a Pat Kraft with a bag full of Bagels ;)
Agree
 
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Unless it's Elko, no thanks on any defense-first coaches. PSU will always be fine on defense.

This program needs a spark on the offensive side of the ball - QB, WR, OL development. Put an offense on the field that people want to go and see play. I'm so tired of losing big games against big opponents scoring 1-2 TDs and complaining about conservative gameplans and not having game breakers on the outside.
 

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Fran Brown update - Syracuse is 3-4 with one win in conference play. Hell no!
 

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Fran Brown update - Syracuse is 3-4 with one win in conference play. Hell no!
That team's season completely went down the drain after Angeli tore his Achilles in the Clemson game. Also, remember that he's coaching at Syracuse, which takes a lot of work to attract players, as it isn't the most attractive or glamorous place.
 

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That team's season completely went down the drain after Angeli tore his Achilles in the Clemson game. Also, remember that he's coaching at Syracuse, which takes a lot of work to attract players, as it isn't the most attractive or glamorous place.
You could say the same thing about James Madison and look what Cignetti did there and is doing now. Fran Brown shouldn’t be on a top hundred list for PSU.