Just curious if anyone plays any of these games. I like EU4. I would try some of the other ones but heard they have a very deep learning curve.
Any Paradox Game Players Post Here?
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Its barrier to entry is pretty steep; when I first started playing it I had to watch a youtube tutorial to get a basic feel for it, but once you learn the basics it's incredibly fun and intuitive.
Besides, you occasionally get some hilarious **** happening like the Pope excommunicating himself from the Catholic Church
Been considering EU4 for a while, as well as Crusader Kings.
Would like to hear thoughts on each.
Would like to hear thoughts on each.
CK2 is probably the best grand strategy game I've ever played, honestly. Endless replayability based on religion, geographic start, starting-year, etc... Building a dynasty up from Count-level in a single territory to becoming Emperor of France and then gaining Jerusalem after the Pope declares a Crusade to take it back from Muslims, all sorts of events like that for everything from Norse/Germanic/Slavic Pagans to a myriad of different Islamic branches to Buddhism and Hinduism in the far east.
I haven't played EU IV since I enjoy the familial dynasty aspect of CK2 too much to move on from it, so can't help there.
Whatever the hell you do, do NOT buy all of the ******** DLC Paradox puts out. Buy the base game and torrent all of the good DLC, or if you don't know how to, I'll put up a download link with all of it and you can grab it there. Those Swedish bastards made both games over 200 bucks through their cancerous DLC bloat practices if you actually pay them.
Its barrier to entry is pretty steep; when I first started playing it I had to watch a youtube tutorial to get a basic feel for it, but once you learn the basics it's incredibly fun and intuitive.
Besides, you occasionally get some hilarious **** happening like the Pope excommunicating himself from the Catholic Church
LOL I've seen funny things like that before. I think there is a famous screenshot where a horse inherits the throne? Also, do you ever use the Game of Thrones mod?
I think I just prefer playing countries to people. But I think I'm going to give it another shot.
If you have never played one before, I would try EU4 first. The learning curve is much easier. It's the game they make for "casuals". You could even try EU3 first, it's like 2 dollars on steam for the complete game.
EU4 still has a deep learning curve. Probably 10 hours before you get a real since of what you're doing. Even then, I learn something new or a different strategy every time I play.
The only negatives is like the other poster said, they have released way too much DLC. Either download the torrent or just get Rights of Man, Art of War, and El Dorado. Those 3 are the best and you can nab them during the current sale.
I've recently started making custom nations just to try different things. This is where I'm currently at restoring the Parthian Empire.
Yeah, if the character you're playing as gets the "Lunatic" trait he'll sometimes put his favorite horse on his small council i.e. Caligula, and there's an event that can fire where you name it your heir. I think it pisses off your vassals so much they'll often declare civil wars over it, lol.
The GoT mod is the mod I play the most of. Just took over the Iron Throne as a bastard Targaryen and am in the process of converting those heretic Faith of the Seven lords to the Lord of Light
See, when I read that, I'm like damn I really wanna play this. Then when I play a few years, I just get confused and can't keep up. I have no problem keeping up with EU4...even when I'm the British empire with land all over the place.
But just playing one person with all these relationships gets difficult to keep track of. I also don't like the way you build your armies. You have to call on underlings to send you troops if I'm not mistaken, I forget what their called. If I did play, I would probably play to cast out the muslims and form Spain. Maybe then continue that game in EU4.
Mainly the relations you need to keep track of are your primary vassals. You need to keep them happy so they provide you the greatest percentage of their troops (with laws you can change in your realm to force them to provide more). As you increase the size of your realm there will be a limit to how many territories you can control directly (which you always receive 100% of troops from since they are your direct lands), so it becomes a balancing act where you keep your vassals limited to as little land as possible per person so they don't grow strong enough to try and rebel against you. Learning power distribution is probably the biggest hurdle to overcome, it's why a lot of people recommend a simple start to learn the basics before jumping in as a Byzantine emperor where every other viceroyal duke in your realm is demanding that you abdicate the throne to your younger brother
So how difficult would the Reconquista be? Or what would be the easiest one to do?
And does anyone play EU4?
I've never personally done a "remove Kebab Reconquista" playthrough but with the bookmark I usually play, which is like 850AD, you start as the King of Asturias, with what looks like about 4 direct vassals just from perusing this screenshot. Since the Umayyad dynasty is f***ing huge at that point, it'd be a good idea to ally with the King of Aquitane (blue in the upper right) or another close by Catholic western European power so they'll send some armies to assist you in your kebab slaying, and get tight with the Pope so he'll declare a Crusade to retake Hispania. It's a harder playthrough because the bookmark starts with you already actively at war with the Umayyad Sultan for more of your Spanish holdings.
Starting as a single-county independant Count in Ireland at an earlier start date is often recommended because you have no liege you have to bow to/follow orders from, so you can begin plotting your conquest of Ireland to form the country before expanding through to England and Scotland to form the Empire of Brittania. Ireland's literally called tutorial island by the playerbase.
GL finding EU IV players on Catspause, I was stunned when I saw a Paradox thread here of all places
I've never personally done a "remove Kebab Reconquista" playthrough but with the bookmark I usually play, which is like 850AD, you start as the King of Asturias, with what looks like about 4 direct vassals just from perusing this screenshot. Since the Umayyad dynasty is f***ing huge at that point, it'd be a good idea to ally with the King of Aquitane (blue in the upper right) or another close by Catholic western European power so they'll send some armies to assist you in your kebab slaying, and get tight with the Pope so he'll declare a Crusade to retake Hispania. It's a harder playthrough because the bookmark starts with you already actively at war with the Umayyad Sultan for more of your Spanish holdings.
Starting as a single-county independant Count in Ireland at an earlier start date is often recommended because you have no liege you have to bow to/follow orders from, so you can begin plotting your conquest of Ireland to form the country before expanding through to England and Scotland to form the Empire of Brittania. Ireland's literally called tutorial island by the playerbase.
GL finding EU IV players on Catspause, I was stunned when I saw a Paradox thread here of all places
Thanks for the breakdown. I'll look into Ireland after I finish my Parthian campaign.
I don't know, to be honest I'm more stunned to have found at least 2 people on here that play CK2. That game is much tougher.
Like I said, EU4 has gotten the reputation as being the "normie" or "casual" game. A lot of Paradox players hate it just because it's the number 1 all time seller. Unfortunately Paradox players seem to want the games to be so unknown just so they can boast about being the only ones that play them? Which to me is stupid. But I did figure that it would be the game here tried if any had been.
I've looked into Hearts Of Iron IV as well....but man it looks deep. And Victoria just looks boring.
I guess I've always heard of EU as babby's first GSG, but I've never really looked at it that way, I just haven't gotten around to playing it. HoI looks amazing but I'm not sure if I have the patience to try and learn something that autistically in-depth. If you ever play CK2 and need help or want to play multi
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Yah it's more of a beginner, but I still use beginner loosely. I could have never played it without playing EU3 first. I guess I just like it because I like the Discovery and Colonial period.
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I was being sarcastic. The OP is the guy that started the thread about all us wage slaves.
CK2 and Cities: Skylines are both excellent. I don't have time to play consistently, but they're good diversions on sleepless nights.
And, yes, Cities: Skylines is better than any of the recent SimCity games. Lots of user-created downloadable content to add detail. I do wish they offered a better selection of scenarios, but only because it ends up being more of a simulator than a strategy game after you get the hang of it.
And, yes, Cities: Skylines is better than any of the recent SimCity games. Lots of user-created downloadable content to add detail. I do wish they offered a better selection of scenarios, but only because it ends up being more of a simulator than a strategy game after you get the hang of it.