Any updates on Caleb Wilson?

JPFisher

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Aside from the Twitter smoke that he'd already signed with Kentucky, I've not heard anything. Saw a Trilly screenshot suggesting as much, but I don't follow his discord so I don't know if it's legit.

Just a lot of hearsay from what I can tell.
 
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Son_Of_Saul

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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
 

NociHTTP

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Branham said it’s 50/50 and that UNC has gained some ground on Kentucky. I still think he ends up at Kentucky and is just dragging the process along to get more NIL
Maybe we'll get lucky and some other avenue for these kids who aren't interested in a degree, can go play ball before they head to the NBA or overseas. Then we can get back to telling recruits to either piss or get off the pot.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
I agree. Wilson’s biggest positive is his versatility, but he isn’t a superstar at anything, he is solid at a lot of things but not Zion, AD, Carmelo, level freshman. Kentucky can get a portal guy who can get 10-15 ppg and 6-7 boards, but I also really want Wilson here
 

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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
I wouldn't be shocked if he waited, but for now I'll take the kid's word when he said he'll definitely commit in January, hopefully it's was but if not it won't be as big of a blow if he did wait.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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Maybe we'll get lucky and some other avenue for these kids who aren't interested in a degree, can go play ball before they head to the NBA or overseas. Then we can get back to telling recruits to either piss or get off the pot.
This is the future of college sports, it’s professional sports now, they just need to say it. Amateurism left college sports(as it should have) but until they find a way to regulate all this, college sports will continue to be a circus.
 

NociHTTP

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This is the future of college sports, it’s professional sports now, they just need to say it. Amateurism left college sports(as it should have) but until they find a way to regulate all this, college sports will continue to be a circus.
It's going to take schools getting together and saying "we're not going to participate in this". If a school can't provide a quality education without funding from sports, I'd argue it's not much of an institution. It's not a preferred thing to do from a fan standpoint, but I think it's the right thing to do.
 
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DaDirtyLeb69

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It's going to take schools getting together and saying "we're not going to participate in this". If a school can't provide a quality education without funding from sports, I'd argue it's not much of an institution. It's not a preferred thing to do from a fan standpoint, but I think it's the right thing to do.
To me NIL should have been the players being able to find deals outside the university. Kentucky or any other school shouldn’t have to pay 500k to get a kid to come here. The player should be able to do any marketing deal or thing they want with a business that isn’t the university
 

*Fox2Monk*

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To me NIL should have been the players being able to find deals outside the university. Kentucky or any other school shouldn’t have to pay 500k to get a kid to come here. The player should be able to do any marketing deal or thing they want with a business that isn’t the university
That’s what it’s supposed to be but the courts have taken away any power the NCAA has to regulate it. Until a federal law addresses it uniformly it will stay this way.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I agree. Wilson’s biggest positive is his versatility, but he isn’t a superstar at anything, he is solid at a lot of things but not Zion, AD, Carmelo, level freshman. Kentucky can get a portal guy who can get 10-15 ppg and 6-7 boards, but I also really want Wilson here
Wilson is pretty legit man, he’s an upper tier recruit like a TJones level of player.
 

bbnkat02

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It's going to take schools getting together and saying "we're not going to participate in this". If a school can't provide a quality education without funding from sports, I'd argue it's not much of an institution. It's not a preferred thing to do from a fan standpoint, but I think it's the right thing to do.
There's very very few schools that could exist then. Ivy Leagues, maybe very prestigious schools like UNC, UVA, Duke, etc. Most of the University's do get some public funding (i.e like UK and other land grant schools) but without sports, they wouldn't have near the infrastructure they have now. Like it or not, sports help fund educations.
 
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He will be at UK. Who the hell wants to play Davis? Kentuckys style of play is a big splash with recruits.
 

NociHTTP

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There's very very few schools that could exist then. Ivy Leagues, maybe very prestigious schools like UNC, UVA, Duke, etc. Most of the University's do get some public funding (i.e like UK and other land grant schools) but without sports, they wouldn't have near the infrastructure they have now. Like it or not, sports help fund educations.

People would still pay to watch games even if these kids wanting to get paid weren't there, would they not?
 

Son_Of_Saul

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I agree. Wilson’s biggest positive is his versatility, but he isn’t a superstar at anything, he is solid at a lot of things but not Zion, AD, Carmelo, level freshman. Kentucky can get a portal guy who can get 10-15 ppg and 6-7 boards, but I also really want Wilson here

I wouldn't be shocked if he waited, but for now I'll take the kid's word when he said he'll definitely commit in January, hopefully it's was but if not it won't be as big of a blow if he did wait.

If Caleb goes to UNC after both our seasons then idk what to say.
Caleb Wilson reminds me of a slightly lighter, less efficient version of Jonathan Isaac. I know a lot of people compare Wilson to Terrence Jones, but Terrence was pretty ripped coming into college. Wilson will be around 210 lbs next year. Isaac was roughly the same weight, and is only one inch taller.

Isaac also had decent handles for his size, and shot 35% from three as a frosh. Isaac's rebounding numbers were solid at nearly 8 per game. If Wilson can get UK 8 rebounds per game in his first year here, that would be a massive coup from a schematic position.
 
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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
You base all this on one recruiting analysts' opinion? Make sure you show up after Wilson commits and so will I. One of is going to have to eat crow because I'm not buying what you seem to be selling.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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You base all this on one recruiting analysts' opinion? Make sure you show up after Wilson commits and so will I. One of is going to have to eat crow because I'm not buying what you seem to be selling.
It's mind-boggling that this is your response based on what I wrote. Tell you what, can you even tell what I was arguing in my post?

I want Wilson. I think we have a legit shot at him. I don't even know what I was talking about.
 

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It's mind-boggling that this is your response based on what I wrote. Tell you what, can you even tell what I was arguing in my post?

I want Wilson. I think we have a legit shot at him. I don't even know what I was talking about.
I can't help it if you can't understand my comments, much less your own.
 

Rockfly78

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It's going to take schools getting together and saying "we're not going to participate in this". If a school can't provide a quality education without funding from sports, I'd argue it's not much of an institution. It's not a preferred thing to do from a fan standpoint, but I think it's the right thing to do.
Those schools will never win another game. Good luck selling that
 

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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
I’ve felt like he’s going to UNC this whole time for some reason 😐
 
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*Fox2Monk*

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Caleb Wilson reminds me of a slightly lighter, less efficient version of Jonathan Isaac. I know a lot of people compare Wilson to Terrence Jones, but Terrence was pretty ripped coming into college. Wilson will be around 210 lbs next year. Isaac was roughly the same weight, and is only one inch taller.

Isaac also had decent handles for his size, and shot 35% from three as a frosh. Isaac's rebounding numbers were solid at nearly 8 per game. If Wilson can get UK 8 rebounds per game in his first year here, that would be a massive coup from a schematic position.
That’s a good comparison. I meant Jones in a more skill set based game not so much in body type.
 
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Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
"Follow the Money!"
 
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Caleb Wilson reminds me of a slightly lighter, less efficient version of Jonathan Isaac. I know a lot of people compare Wilson to Terrence Jones, but Terrence was pretty ripped coming into college. Wilson will be around 210 lbs next year. Isaac was roughly the same weight, and is only one inch taller.

Isaac also had decent handles for his size, and shot 35% from three as a frosh. Isaac's rebounding numbers were solid at nearly 8 per game. If Wilson can get UK 8 rebounds per game in his first year here, that would be a massive coup from a schematic position.
In recent vids, Wilson appears to have gained some weight/muscle. I think he is probably closer to 220 than 210. That doesn’t mean he is a bruiser. It just seems like he has gotten stronger.

If he really is 6’9, somewhere around 225 is a good playing weight for him next year. We don’t want him to loose his quick first step. But we want him to be able to get some boards and hold his own on D. Some guys gain too much weight too quickly and lose their quickness.

Garrison looks to be filling out nicely at the 5 for next year. Let’s hope we can keep him.
 
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yoshukai

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I agree. Wilson’s biggest positive is his versatility, but he isn’t a superstar at anything, he is solid at a lot of things but not Zion, AD, Carmelo, level freshman. Kentucky can get a portal guy who can get 10-15 ppg and 6-7 boards, but I also really want Wilson here
Will any of us really be surprised if he waits until the spring and ends up picking UNC?

Kid went from an absolute longshot in the summer to a UK "lock" by mid-Fall, and now it's 50/50. The same talking heads have advocated all three narratives.

No one really knows much of anything it seems, outside the fact that Wilson loves the attention and wants to draw this out as long as he can.

I love his game, but if we don't get him, I'm okay with that. He isn't transcendent and he'll be good for 12 and 5 wherever he goes, which is the type of production that can be found in the portal.

I lost all appetite for this type of drama with Calipari about five years ago. If Wilson comes, great. If not, I wish him well.
If CMP wants him I want him but , the 2 million we’re spending on him could buy a damn nice PROVEN 4 man than can actually be a 3pt threat. From what I hear ….he hasn’t signed with UK but he has accepted an NIL deal with UK people and has already been spending it . So what happens if he doesn’t honor that ?
 

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If CMP wants him I want him but , the 2 million we’re spending on him could buy a damn nice PROVEN 4 man than can actually be a 3pt threat. From what I hear ….he hasn’t signed with UK but he has accepted an NIL deal with UK people and has already been spending it . So what happens if he doesn’t honor that ?
How can you say it could get a proven 4 man, when we have no idea who will even be available? I take the bird in hand. Let’s let it play out.

If he signed a contract for money he received and then goes somewhere else, I would think there is a legal remediation that could take place.

If we strike out on him, I would think we put the all out full court press on Miikka and Ament. If we fail there, then hit the portal hard. If it is as easy to find a top level PF as you think, we will be fine.
 

DaDirtyLeb69

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If CMP wants him I want him but , the 2 million we’re spending on him could buy a damn nice PROVEN 4 man than can actually be a 3pt threat. From what I hear ….he hasn’t signed with UK but he has accepted an NIL deal with UK people and has already been spending it . So what happens if he doesn’t honor that ?
Who said he signed a NIL deal already
 

yoshukai

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How can you say it could get a proven 4 man, when we have no idea who will even be available? I take the bird in hand. Let’s let it play out.

If he signed a contract for money he received and then goes somewhere else, I would think there is a legal remediation that could take place.

If we strike out on him, I would think we put the all out full court press on Miikka and Ament. If we fail there, then hit the portal hard. If it is as easy to find a top level PF as you think, we will be fine.
Well yeah if he is the “bird in hand “ . But I believe we will always be able to get someone like Andrew Carr , or better if we pay 2 million. You are a lot higher on flashy one year freshman than I am .