that maybe we have some of our own players recruiting agisnt Cal? I was just thinkin and I know I’m not the best at this but it almost seems like Cal has something not good going on inside with former players or something. Like some bigs not happy with how things worked out and secretly talking to players about things they don’t like, like maybe Cal telling them they can dribble and stuff when recruiting them but not letting them win the game starts?
Anybody else think....
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All of Cal's former players love him for the most part. Not sure what or why you're thinking about something like that.
You summed yourself up nicely.
Former players aren’t going to bash cal even if they didn’t reach the nba. He does everything he can and they know what they are getting themselves into. Furthermore, it’s not a god luck for a player to do that if they are trying to get paid in the nba. Character plays a nice role. I’m sure players talk amongst themselves about what they and cal could of done differently, but I don’t see any overall bashing going on
Im not even a UK fan and this is a wild *** statement. No almost all players love Cal, even the ones that he left in Memphis.
I’m lot at all. I was just thinking mayeby it was happining becuase why else would he loose to other schools for big men? Like JM so I don’t know. Thank for the respons
I don’t think it’s happening but it wouldn’t surprise me. It’s certainly not a reach to think one or more of the guys that came through here aren’t happy with how it turned out and believe they could have made a better choice. As a matter of fact I’d say that much is probable.
Not unreasonable in terms of general human motivation, but I see some problems with it in this situation.
1 - How would these disgruntled Cal players have access to recruits, and visa versa? Seems like a major hurdle.
2 - Who would be motivated to do this? Most Cal players speak very well of him afterwards, including half the guys who transfer?
3 - Who has a believable story they could tell to have influenced recruiting the way we’re seeing? Remember, it’s only for big men where our recruiting has dropped off. Cal himself said he should have used Skal differently and we could make a case that he could have used Bam differently since it was just reported he surprised his management by showing a well developed face up game even when he first got to the league. But both those guys went lottery. Is a recruit really gonna be convinced Cal hurt one of their careers? Who else? We all watched Cal try to use SKJ both inside and outside and the kid couldn’t play. So someone’s gonna believe he would have shone if not for Cal? Isaac Humphries is viciously texting kids from Australia?
Again, a hypothesis like this is not impossible in the general course of human events. But I don’t see any reasonable way to apply it to this situation in a way that has any meaningful effect at all.
In my opinion our recruiting has dropped off for some very obvious reasons, with a few less certain reasons possibly also contributing:
1 - Cal totally flubbed his chance coaching the U19 Team USA. It happened. It also coincides exactly with the beginning of our recruiting woes. It sucks and Cal knows it sucks but oh well. Life goes on.
2 - WW Wes and Orlando Antigua both dropped out of the picture roughly the same time frame. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to admit good recruiting was attributed to both of them and now they’re both gone.
There are other factors that are surely playing a role. But to me none of them are so cut and dry as those two, and none of them fit the timeline of our troubles so well.
1 - How would these disgruntled Cal players have access to recruits, and visa versa? Seems like a major hurdle.
2 - Who would be motivated to do this? Most Cal players speak very well of him afterwards, including half the guys who transfer?
3 - Who has a believable story they could tell to have influenced recruiting the way we’re seeing? Remember, it’s only for big men where our recruiting has dropped off. Cal himself said he should have used Skal differently and we could make a case that he could have used Bam differently since it was just reported he surprised his management by showing a well developed face up game even when he first got to the league. But both those guys went lottery. Is a recruit really gonna be convinced Cal hurt one of their careers? Who else? We all watched Cal try to use SKJ both inside and outside and the kid couldn’t play. So someone’s gonna believe he would have shone if not for Cal? Isaac Humphries is viciously texting kids from Australia?
Again, a hypothesis like this is not impossible in the general course of human events. But I don’t see any reasonable way to apply it to this situation in a way that has any meaningful effect at all.
In my opinion our recruiting has dropped off for some very obvious reasons, with a few less certain reasons possibly also contributing:
1 - Cal totally flubbed his chance coaching the U19 Team USA. It happened. It also coincides exactly with the beginning of our recruiting woes. It sucks and Cal knows it sucks but oh well. Life goes on.
2 - WW Wes and Orlando Antigua both dropped out of the picture roughly the same time frame. You don’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to admit good recruiting was attributed to both of them and now they’re both gone.
There are other factors that are surely playing a role. But to me none of them are so cut and dry as those two, and none of them fit the timeline of our troubles so well.
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I sorry I not a good poster because of my disibility but I do talk better than I did a long time ago I hope you do not want to put me on ignore. I like you posting and want to see it.
I love walking I walk in the morning and walked to school everyday. My mom says that’s why I have big caffed muscles on my legs. lol. Thank for the response.
Either Forrest Gump and Simple Jack had a kid or this guy is messing with everybody. Or both.
The OP stated he's disabled. At least he's a lot nicer than some on here.
Posting? Sorry, you’ve already posted more than once.
Maybe you mean starting threads?
You should never do either again.
Could be a troll, could be a legit person. I choose to be nice to this young man. I've certainly seen worse posts and threads on this site. Boogie on, Cyril.
claiming to be disabled = karma problems definitely. So weird.
I just have trouble spelling sometimes. Not really a disable.
Yes, certainly a plausible theory. It would explain our downward trajectory in recruiting and having to settle for second tier guys.
I'd add not finishing the job in 2015 as another factor. Cal would have been king with that under his belt. Not only did we not take the title, Duke ended up winning it. Double whammy.
This makes a lot of sense... after AD and KAT left really no bigs with that mix of size and skill. Really a sound hypothesis when looking back at the last four years, the current team, and upcoming recruiting classes.
It’s cool brother. Sometimes we post things That others disagree with or we don’t explain it like we wanted to. I understand you question, but I wouldn’t think anything like that is going on. All they would have to do is talk to Big Cuz, KAT, A.Davis etc, and they’d all love Kentucky. Lol Thanks foe the question.
Something is going on though! Maybe it’s most the big time kids either want money or something, or the handlers are just too much for Cal to deal with because they think their friend/family are the best player in the world. Haha. Maybe it’s just bad luck like with program hiring family members of the top prospects, or something as simple as offering a kid before we do. Who really knows with kids these days.
I do know one thing though. If a kid wants to be the absolute best player he can be and make the most possible money in his professional career, he needs to come to Kentucky and learn under John Calipari!!! It’s going to change and we’ll start getting those big guys again. Cal will get the best players that actually wants to be here and put in the work, and he will always give us a chance to win a championship. Thanks
Cal has an amazing relationship with former players and we see them return constantly and he has dinner with them whenever he is in their towns. Now coach rat in never see or read anything about guys returning back or him continuing to have a relationship with them after they leave. I think you would be hard-pressed to find another college coach who has relationships with more former players no matter where he has coached. Not sure where the OP came up with this one, but I can't disagree enough. I think we have landed some players just because of Cal's former players and what they had to say about their time at UK.