Anyone else kind of disappointed in the new Star Wars movie?

[gamecockcat]

Just saw it for the first time this afternoon. Overall, much better than any of the three prequels but still found myself just a tad disappointed. Really liked it and glad I saw it. But....

1. I found the plot to be very, very similar to New Hope. Orphan with unknown Force powers, leaving 'home' to return a droid to Leia, bar scene with array of weird customers, etc., etc. All seemed very much derivative. I understand the reviews that praised the 'nods' to the originals but seemed like this one went way overboard in copying things from the original.
   
2. From thinking The Force is a myth to being able to beat a trained Sith/Dark Jedi in lightsaber combat in almost no time at all. C'mon, I thought use of the Force was only for those gifted and trained for years.
3. The Han/Kylo showdown was so obvious as was the final outcome.
4. If, as expected, Rey is Luke's daughter, another obvious plot point. Didn't they want to take ANY chances with this film?

There are others I could've pointed out but those came to mind immediately. Again, I liked the movie and think it's up there with IV-VI but it's almost a 'gritty reboot' as much as a new movie. And, with all the hype associated with it and the tons of glowing reviews, I found myself wanting more. Honestly, I liked the rebooted Star Trek (first one with JJ) better and I'm probably more of a SW fan than a Trekkie. Maybe I've finally gotten too old for Star Wars (gasp!). Just left the theater feeling like I hadn't been blown away like the original three blew me away. And I honestly wanted to recapture that magic.

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

 

[-LEK-]

No. You're a terrible person and should delete your account.

 

[elwood_blue]

I haven't seen it yet but I don't expect to be blown away the same as my then 6-year-old self after watching the original. I don't think there is any way to ever capture that kind of magic again because age was a huge factor.

 

[funKYcat75]

The gay is strong with this one.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

I haven't seen it yet but I don't expect to be blown away the same as my then 6-year-old self after watching the original. I don't think there is any way to ever capture that kind of magic again because age was a huge factor.

What he said ^^^

Saw it today as well and was like..yeah, it's good. Nothing great.

 

[P.PattersonISwalkingthruthatdoor]

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

 

[GhostVol]

Just saw it for the first time this afternoon. Overall, much better than any of the three prequels but still found myself just a tad disappointed. Really liked it and glad I saw it. But....

1. I found the plot to be very, very similar to New Hope. Orphan with unknown Force powers, leaving 'home' to return a droid to Leia, bar scene with array of weird customers, etc., etc. All seemed very much derivative. I understand the reviews that praised the 'nods' to the originals but seemed like this one went way overboard in copying things from the original.
   
2. From thinking The Force is a myth to being able to beat a trained Sith/Dark Jedi in lightsaber combat in almost no time at all. C'mon, I thought use of the Force was only for those gifted and trained for years.
3. The Han/Kylo showdown was so obvious as was the final outcome.
4. If, as expected, Rey is Luke's daughter, another obvious plot point. Didn't they want to take ANY chances with this film?

There are others I could've pointed out but those came to mind immediately. Again, I liked the movie and think it's up there with IV-VI but it's almost a 'gritty reboot' as much as a new movie. And, with all the hype associated with it and the tons of glowing reviews, I found myself wanting more. Honestly, I liked the rebooted Star Trek (first one with JJ) better and I'm probably more of a SW fan than a Trekkie. Maybe I've finally gotten too old for Star Wars (gasp!). Just left the theater feeling like I hadn't been blown away like the original three blew me away. And I honestly wanted to recapture that magic.

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

Substitute "King Kong" for "The Force Awakens" and I'm with you. Saw the 1933 version literally hundreds of times and was eagerly awaiting the 2005 version. Once Peter Jackson broke out a silverback mountain gorilla on steroids, it was a solid 'meh' for me. Beautifully shot, faithful to the 1933 version, but left me saying "Could have been a LOT better". As good as Jackson is, he shot his 'Kong' as a fan rather than a director.

Yeah, this the the 10th anniversary of the King Kong 2005 version

 

[UKGrad93]

I agree with #1, it was a similar story to New Hope. I found it to be enjoyable though. I took my 10 yo daughter (her first time to see Star Wars on a big screen). A lot of my enjoyment came from seeing her experience the excitement like I did nearly 40 years ago.

I guess my expectations weren't too high. No way I was expecting to be blown away like I was as a kid.

 

[theoledog]

So ... another SW movie ya think exploiting the Rey/Luke connection?....Nooooooooooooo .
I refuse to be drawn in.... Unless it's Ben Affleck we send to a Galaxy far far away...........
Having seen all the SW movies as an adult I found this one "campy" ..... Not as bad as the Battle for Endor... but bad enough....
I like SciFi but this one didn't do much for me.... Sorry SW lovers....

 

[wildcat1973_rivals160373]

If only there was a thread discussing this topic. You would think with the movie making over a $1 Billion, someone would've started a thread about this already.

SMH.

 

[gamecockcat]

If only there was a thread discussing this topic. You would think with the movie making over a $1 Billion, someone would've started a thread about this already.

SMH.

And you would think that someone with 57,000 messages could read the last sentence of a post he's replying to.

SMH

 

[GGCAT]

Just saw it for the first time this afternoon. Overall, much better than any of the three prequels but still found myself just a tad disappointed. Really liked it and glad I saw it. But....

1. I found the plot to be very, very similar to New Hope. Orphan with unknown Force powers, leaving 'home' to return a droid to Leia, bar scene with array of weird customers, etc., etc. All seemed very much derivative. I understand the reviews that praised the 'nods' to the originals but seemed like this one went way overboard in copying things from the original.
   
2. From thinking The Force is a myth to being able to beat a trained Sith/Dark Jedi in lightsaber combat in almost no time at all. C'mon, I thought use of the Force was only for those gifted and trained for years.
3. The Han/Kylo showdown was so obvious as was the final outcome.
4. If, as expected, Rey is Luke's daughter, another obvious plot point. Didn't they want to take ANY chances with this film?

There are others I could've pointed out but those came to mind immediately. Again, I liked the movie and think it's up there with IV-VI but it's almost a 'gritty reboot' as much as a new movie. And, with all the hype associated with it and the tons of glowing reviews, I found myself wanting more. Honestly, I liked the rebooted Star Trek (first one with JJ) better and I'm probably more of a SW fan than a Trekkie. Maybe I've finally gotten too old for Star Wars (gasp!). Just left the theater feeling like I hadn't been blown away like the original three blew me away. And I honestly wanted to recapture that magic.

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

Saw it myself last night and agree with pretty much every point the OP made on here.

Wanted to like it so much more than I did, but it just came across as an easy / lazy reboot of New Hope, and really expected more out of JJ Abrams.

As Gamecock said....maybe I'm just too old now for Star Wars.

 

[UKWildcatT]

K.I.S.S.

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid

Those ridiculous prequels were bogged down by nonsense. This just got back to simple storytelling.

Hell, just getting rid of that ridiculous midichlorians crap was good enough for me.

 

[_ukcat]

I like the K.I.S.S statement. Remember this the 1st SW under the Disney umbrella and Disney knows simple story telling works!!

 

[ukfan606]

Blasphemy, this movie was everything I hoped it would be.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I'm glad the OP started a new thread instead of just posting his rehashed issues with the film in the thread where numerous others have posted the exact same issues several times.

OP is like "I can't read but I'll start my own thread pretending I'm just too lazy to read."

 

[TruBluCatFan]

Just saw it for the first time this afternoon. Overall, much better than any of the three prequels but still found myself just a tad disappointed. Really liked it and glad I saw it. But....

1. I found the plot to be very, very similar to New Hope. Orphan with unknown Force powers, leaving 'home' to return a droid to Leia, bar scene with array of weird customers, etc., etc. All seemed very much derivative. I understand the reviews that praised the 'nods' to the originals but seemed like this one went way overboard in copying things from the original.
   
2. From thinking The Force is a myth to being able to beat a trained Sith/Dark Jedi in lightsaber combat in almost no time at all. C'mon, I thought use of the Force was only for those gifted and trained for years.
3. The Han/Kylo showdown was so obvious as was the final outcome.
4. If, as expected, Rey is Luke's daughter, another obvious plot point. Didn't they want to take ANY chances with this film?

There are others I could've pointed out but those came to mind immediately. Again, I liked the movie and think it's up there with IV-VI but it's almost a 'gritty reboot' as much as a new movie. And, with all the hype associated with it and the tons of glowing reviews, I found myself wanting more. Honestly, I liked the rebooted Star Trek (first one with JJ) better and I'm probably more of a SW fan than a Trekkie. Maybe I've finally gotten too old for Star Wars (gasp!). Just left the theater feeling like I hadn't been blown away like the original three blew me away. And I honestly wanted to recapture that magic.

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

Pretty much my exact thoughts. Just way too similar to Episode IV.

Best part of this one was that it sets up Episode VIII really well.

 

[UKwizard]

The OP is a narcissist because he started this thread instead of posting in the other one because he wanted his opinion front and center. Classic Internet generation behavior.

 

[Blueisbest]

Personally, I thought is was great. Yes it was a lot like Episode IV but that's okay. Still a very enjoyable movie. Now, if in Episode VIII, Finn gets encased in carbon and Rey loses a hand, then we might have a problem.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

Sorry you were disappointed. Unfortunately, it's impossible to make a film that will be loved by everyone, especially with an audience so large. Your second complaint I think will be addressed in VIII. As to your fourth one, I think Luke being Rey's father could ultimately be a red herring, but we'll see.

I do think some people kind of grow out of Star Wars. Young people are clearly a demographic for these films, which is why the narrative structure is relatively simple. I'm in my early thirties, but I'm still a kid at heart.

 

[Pope John Wall II]

Disney/JJ, of course I'm disappointed.

 

[wildcat1973_rivals160373]

The OP is a narcissist because he started this thread instead of posting in the other one because he wanted his opinion front and center. Classic Internet generation behavior.

Pretty much. Tskware is notorious for this very thing. Starting a new thread about a rehashed topic just so he can be heard.

OP even acknowledges that he was too lazy to read the other thread (which has a lot of great information in it). Sad.

 

[anon_l8pbkn96tg3j6]

1: Ordinary kid from desert with unknown father turns out to be special, pilots racing pod like a pro and accidentally destroys trade federation blockade by movies end. Mentor dies at end.
4: Ordinary kid from desert with unknown father turns out to be special, pilots X-Wing like a pro and destroys death star by movie's end. Mentor dies at end.
7. Ordinary kid from desert with unknown father turns out to be special, pilots millennium falcon like a pro and destroys trained force user in a lightsaber duel by movie's end. Mentor dies at end.

Spoiler Alert: Rey is going to lose a hand by the end of Episode 8, and will fight her father figure, whoever that turns out to be, by the end of Episode 9 . . . its just what Star Wars is.

Also, Rey being Luke's kid / former apprentice is the only way her kicking Kylo Ren's *** at the end of the movie makes sense. She had to be a force user in training and had her mind deleted somehow.

 

[FutureCityCats_rivals]

Went to sleep 4 times. FCC.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

What exactly were you expecting? The trailers from 8 months ago showed you it started with an orphan on a desert planet, them walking into a cantina and the poster and late trailers showed the new death star. Its not like those were shocks.

 

[theoledog]

I wasn't all that impressed... The Force was very impressive when I was younger but I have the wisdom of age and realize that either Harry Potter or Frodo Baggins could have led The Rebel Alliance in the fight against The Empire...

But the good news is Harrison Ford won't appear in another sequel as Han Solo (poorly acted/Carrie Fisher-Princess Leia also)
Actually the return of old characters in a new movie was best pulled off by Chewbacca... I though the did an excellent job and didn't look as if he'd aged one bit........

 

[warrior-cat]

Blasphemy, this movie was everything I hoped it would be.

So, you did not want it to be good?:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[LadyCaytIL]

lol, you guys turn 70 and see if you could play yourself from your mid 30's. In 40 years I'll probably think I'm a fish taco dressed in human clothes

watch episode 8 be original and these same people say "it just doesn't feel like Star Wars to me". Lol

 

[gamecockcat]

Pretty much. Tskware is notorious for this very thing. Starting a new thread about a rehashed topic just so he can be heard.

OP even acknowledges that he was too lazy to read the other thread (which has a lot of great information in it). Sad.

The couple of pages I DID read were mainly posters who'd seen the movie multiple times and were discussing various 'theories' about this character or that character or the next movie plot or some other minutiae about which I could not possibly care less. Unlike some of you, I don't have the time or the patience to read 20+ pages of ponderings about one specific word or action in a Star Wars movie. If that makes me a narcissist, I'm OK with that.

"A lot of great information in it?" - really? Fanboys speculating about increasingly minute details about the movie? I've got much better things to do with my time than read 800 posts like that. I probably had much higher hopes for TFA than I should've. I saw the first one when it came out and I was in junior high. Loved the first three. Suffered through the prequels (as did many, many others). Really hoped/expected a 'wow' experience with JJ's history. Was disappointed that I pretty much knew the key plot points several minutes before they happened on the screen. Do not think this story 'advanced' the originals at all - merely restated them. Now, if the next one(s) bring a more creative arc to the screen, I'll probably go see it. Right now, I can't even say I'd go see the next one. And I will guarantee you I'll NEVER read 800 posts about any subject. If I wanted that much information, I'd go to more reliable sources than Paddock posters' opinions.

 

[TransyCat09]

The review I read that most accurately reflected my opinion said that it, "gave you everything you knew you wanted, but nothing you didn't know you wanted."

That's what made it an A+ adventure movie a la Guardians of the Galaxy, but keeps it from being the thing the original trilogy was.

 

[PuffyNips]

I absolutely loved it.

Most importantly, it set up new storylines and main characters for the remaining films.

 

[UK_Is_Good]

I don't quite follow how you say you "Really liked it and glad I saw it." to being so disappointed that you don't even know if you'll want to see the next one, but that's okay. The films are going to rhyme thematically and structurally (the prequels did this, but not as well). If you're looking for something Star Wars, but something much more different, then you may be more interested in the anthology films such as Rogue One. Or maybe you have "grown out" of Star Wars and it's just not for you anymore, which is okay.

 

[thebluestripes]

better than I thought itd be, but some of the movie plot is just rediculous.

 

[jockstrap_mcgee]

It echoed all three movies from the original trilogy, not just A New Hope.

C'mon now, they hired Abrams to do it. What did you think he going to do?
He is not, however, directing the second one, and this tells me that episode 8 will likely be a going off on its own direction instead of trying to be Empire.

 

[vhcat70]

It's as good as all the other movies I've never seen.

 

[rabidcatfan]

Didn't like "The Force Awakens" huh? I guess you really, really enjoyed the prequel trilogy then...

 

[LadyCaytIL]

could you imagine marvel and dc doing something original, oh wait DC did with man of steel and people flipped their d*cks when superman let a city get destroyed and killed zod.

episode 8 opening scene, Rey kills Luke , finds a planet sized kiper crystal and destroys the force , Boooooooooooo it's too original. Noooo they can't lose the force. Could you imagine the cries

 

[kghighroller]

I didn't like the new one at all.

 

[TXCatFBFan]

Was not impressed. Unoriginal and lazy script, IMO

 

[barryn2000]

Just saw it for the first time this afternoon. Overall, much better than any of the three prequels but still found myself just a tad disappointed. Really liked it and glad I saw it. But....

1. I found the plot to be very, very similar to New Hope. Orphan with unknown Force powers, leaving 'home' to return a droid to Leia, bar scene with array of weird customers, etc., etc. All seemed very much derivative. I understand the reviews that praised the 'nods' to the originals but seemed like this one went way overboard in copying things from the original.
   
2. From thinking The Force is a myth to being able to beat a trained Sith/Dark Jedi in lightsaber combat in almost no time at all. C'mon, I thought use of the Force was only for those gifted and trained for years.
3. The Han/Kylo showdown was so obvious as was the final outcome.
4. If, as expected, Rey is Luke's daughter, another obvious plot point. Didn't they want to take ANY chances with this film?

There are others I could've pointed out but those came to mind immediately. Again, I liked the movie and think it's up there with IV-VI but it's almost a 'gritty reboot' as much as a new movie. And, with all the hype associated with it and the tons of glowing reviews, I found myself wanting more. Honestly, I liked the rebooted Star Trek (first one with JJ) better and I'm probably more of a SW fan than a Trekkie. Maybe I've finally gotten too old for Star Wars (gasp!). Just left the theater feeling like I hadn't been blown away like the original three blew me away. And I honestly wanted to recapture that magic.

I would've replied to the other thread but I wasn't about to read 700 threads to see if any of the above had been mentioned by someone else.

IMHO...worse episode so far. I had almost as much enjoyment reading the 40 + 20 plot holes page on huffingtonpost...knowing I wasn't alone in my WTF. Basically the movie seemed like what you'd get if you designed a line of toys and then wrote a movie script around them.

BTW...I agree with your last post in this thread. I also looked to post about my opinion in the 20+ page thread and after scrolling through two pages, it seemed to be a bunch of star wars junkies sharing story theories.