Anyone here with anxiety disorders?
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I think I have OCPD, which most people mistakenly call OCD. I'm a perfectionist basically. Things being out of kilter in the home or office get on my last nerve.
Social anxiety. Not officially diagnosed, but my friend who is a psychologist says it's pretty damn likely.
I have pure OCD, which is obsessive or intrusive thoughts without the compulsions. I also have Social Anxiety. I work in an office, but being around the people and just going to the job is tough.
Definitely don't self assess from internet. Go to a professional. Anxiety is a thought disorder. It's not genetic, it's a taught behavior, usually by anxious parents. A good combo of DBT, CBT, and Solution Focus can help.
Anxiety untreated is also now being seen as inflammatory response to the body, which puts us for risk for possible dementia, cancer, strokes. You don't get "cured" of anxiety, you manage the symptoms and triggers.
constant release of stress combatant hormones. such as glutocorticoid release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933793/
Dementia article about a study
http://www.medicaldaily.com/dementi...tress-increases-womens-risk-alzheimers-306125
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Got DAMN I'm anxious to see how this thread goes!!!
Mental illness seems to be the least understood human condition. The so-called professionals in this area are mostly full of **** and near useless, IMO.
http://www.ocdonline.com/#!the-right-stuff/c1hdb
Great article from what is considered the most knowledgeable OCPD specialist in the World. This is a very little known and even less frequently recognized disorder. And it affects a large number of very successful individuals. This guy is expensive, but worth the money if you really fit the description.
That's actually another cognitive distortion. You're 2/2.
Ida, you're right. A lot of professionals suck balls. But they're are a lot who can help. These "interventions" or specific therapies like DBT, EMDR, SF, CBT, etc etc, any therapist can do it, but it's the therapeutic alliance between therapist and client that is the true intervention. Not these interventions.
One of the easier way that I can describe it. Like OCD and compuslive hand washing, person washes their hands too much and they want to stop it. With OCPD, they compulsively wash their hands but don't think there's a problem with it. In the old Axis 5 DX, they use to put personality disorders on the same axis as mental retardation. It takes a great deal of insight of the person with personality disorders to work towards better treatment. That's why treatment successes are few.
I know, the example is weak and may be off (you're right about the hand washing. There are no rituals in OCPD), but my point still stands. The difference between a disorder and the personality disorder is the lack of insight to one's own behavior. I'm treating someone now for OCPD and it's difficult.
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My limited understanding of OCD and OCPD is that people with OCPD are bothered by the fact they are the way they are and would like help. People with OCD are content to be the way they are and cannot understand why other people are not the same way. People with OCPD hurt themselves but people with OCD drive everyone around them nuts.
Is this generally true?
I have a sister-in-law who has OCD but she doesn't even know it. Everyone else sure knows it though.
Then maybe I don't have OCPD? I mean, I've never been diagnosed, but I meet nearly all of the criteria for it. If I had a personality disorder I wouldn't be saying I think I have one, right?
Prolly not. I'm by no means well versed in PDs, but I would ask if if your obsessive thinking affected your interpersonal relationships through out your life time?
Thinga being out of place getting on your nerves isn't obsessive compulsive [eyeroll].
General Anxiety Disorder is now thought to have genetic influence, but it is more of a predisposal toward anxiety that is accentuated by environmental factors-like anxious parents as you mentioned.
Not so much my interpersonal relationships as much as it causes distractions and wastes my time. A lot of times I have to multitask at work and because of my perfectionism I have a hard time gaining traction. When I realize this is happening, I consciously adopt an IDGAF attitude and I get stuff done. Hell Willy, in today's society my symptoms are probably normal.
I treated a lady with OCD a few years ago. She knew she had a problem, but would say stuff like, "I never want to get to the point that I don't want to do certain behaviors".... Made little headway with her. She didn't want to change.
Brother, it's not a PD. One of the biggest factors is the affect on relationships consistently through one's lifetime
Man, I understand. It's difficult. Without insight to change, they won't change. But kudos for trying. I'm trying to get better with them.
When I was younger anxiety popped up. As a small kid the fear of death worried me. In college, long distance driving all of a sudden caused anxiety. Just popped up one day. I didn't want to be like that so I just did it anyway. At first, it was a hassle but over a little time it went away.
When you have felt some of that you have a small understanding for those that have more severe mental issues. My only fear, as an adult, is something happening to my children. It's the only serious fear/issue I haven't been able to overcome to this point. That would be the point of no return for me.
Have no idea if any of this is normal but that was my experience.
When you have felt some of that you have a small understanding for those that have more severe mental issues. My only fear, as an adult, is something happening to my children. It's the only serious fear/issue I haven't been able to overcome to this point. That would be the point of no return for me.
Have no idea if any of this is normal but that was my experience.
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A lot of the people I work with that have issues with anxiety came from broken families. May be drawing a correlation that's not there, but seems to be attachment issues with a lot. Some others were raised in functional families, but lots of demands to excel if not be perfect. Fear of failure is a big issue. Self worth is tied up in success. Like Willy said, the main factor in success is the therapeutic relationship (Some would say as much as 70%). I just do my best to listen, accept them in their failures. Many seem surprised that it's okay to be less than perfect.
As for fear for your kids, to an extent, that is normal if not instinctive. It becomes unhealthy for them when it interferes with their doing things independently that are age appropriate.
As for fear for your kids, to an extent, that is normal if not instinctive. It becomes unhealthy for them when it interferes with their doing things independently that are age appropriate.
Great post.
Elwood- read that article Wett posted. It's good. Pretty confident that you don't meet criteria for OCPD.
Wish I had seen this sooner. I took an autism assessment earlier in the week and it said I'm off-the-charts autistic. :flushed:
lol I took one and got the same results, basically. I'd go to a doctor about it, but I'm 31 and living fine so what's the point?
Not sure I fully buy into the genetic piece. I mean, it's interesting, but the biggest hold back from that is the fact that anxiety to the point of it affecting your daily life is a thought disorder. Not sure how someone can develop a thought disorder from genetics. Your belief system is fully intact by 12 years of age. That belief system covers 18 different schemas. Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar, ADHD etc yeah, definitely a genetic issue. But I really can't buy into the "predisposed" for anxiety due to it being a thought disorder. Thought disorders are taught and conditioned. Now, if there are genes that makes someone more susceptible to a thought disorder, then I dunno. Just find that hard to believe. But that's what research is for, right?
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I have off the charts OCD about clutter. I can't even look at it. I sit on the couch and stare at the tv so i don't even have to acknowledge it.
Still trying to get a dr to confirm so my wife will believe me, though.
In all seriousness, mental illness should be taken seriously. I don't think i have social anxiety because i have to talk in front of a lot of people for my job, and it doesn't really affect me at all, but i would be content not interacting with humans for 80% of my day. I only work with 2 other people so when i am in the office by myself when they're on the road, it's glorious. I'll intentionally avoid people i know that i run into out in public, even if i wouldn't mind talking to them, because its just like "man, i gotta talk again..." maybe I'm a sociopath.
Still trying to get a dr to confirm so my wife will believe me, though.
In all seriousness, mental illness should be taken seriously. I don't think i have social anxiety because i have to talk in front of a lot of people for my job, and it doesn't really affect me at all, but i would be content not interacting with humans for 80% of my day. I only work with 2 other people so when i am in the office by myself when they're on the road, it's glorious. I'll intentionally avoid people i know that i run into out in public, even if i wouldn't mind talking to them, because its just like "man, i gotta talk again..." maybe I'm a sociopath.