Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

[OEMDawg]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

God damn, they are a picture perfect example of DOUBLE DRIBBLE

 

[Frances Drebin]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

...are they palming or double dribbling? You realize those are two different things, right?

 

[OEMDawg]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

Palming the ball is stopping your dribble and if you continue to dribble it results in a DOUBLE dribble.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

 

[Frances Drebin]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

Basketball 101:

VIOLATIONS

Walking/Traveling. Taking more than 'a step and a half' without dribbling the ball is traveling. Moving your pivot foot once you've stopped dribbling is traveling.

Carrying/palming. When a player dribbles the ball with his hand too far to the side of or, sometimes, even under the ball.

Double Dribble. Dribbling the ball with both hands on the ball at the same time or picking up the dribble and then dribbling again is a double dribble.

Held ball. Occasionally, two or more opposing players will gain possession of the ball at the same time. In order to avoid a prolonged and/or violent tussle, the referee stops the action and awards the ball to one team or the other on a rotating basis.

Goaltending. If a defensive player interferes with a shot while it's on the way down toward the basket, while it's on the way up toward the basket after having touched the backboard, or while it's in the cylinder above the rim, it's goaltending and the shot counts. If committed by an offensive player, it's a violation and the ball is awarded to the opposing team for a throw-in.

Backcourt violation. Once the offense has brought the ball across the mid-court line, they cannot go back across the line during possession. If they do, the ball is awarded to the other team to pass inbounds.

Time restrictions. A player passing the ball inbounds has five seconds to pass the ball. If he does not, then the ball is awarded to the other team. Other time restrictions include the rule that a player cannot have the ball for more than five seconds when being closely guarded and, in some states and levels, shot-clock restrictions requiring a team to attempt a shot within a given time frame.

Study up. There will be a test later.

 

[dogfan96]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

Some refs will give the palming call and then follow it with a double dribble signal. So like he said, the palming violation (essentially picking up your dribble) results in a double dribble (resuming the dribble after picking it up). Sometimes they call one or the other and sometimes they signal both.</p>

 

[8dog]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

its just a version of stopping your dribble and starting it again.

 

[Frances Drebin]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

....between delaying your dribble (which is what you do when you palm) and picking up your dribble. They are two completely different things. One is open to interpretation as to whether it's a violation, and the other is a no-brainer. They are two different violations.

 

[8dog]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

palming is a violation b/c you cannot stop your dribble and start it again. I think palming is simply a more specific kind of double dribble.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

double dribble

or Palming

</p>

 

[MSUCostanza]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

 

[mstateglfr]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

Palming the ball is stopping your dribble and if you continue to dribble it results in a DOUBLE dribble.

And yet they are different calls with different signals for violation. Odd how they are apparently the same and yet they arent signaled as such and are actually called differently.

 

[8dog]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

but its the same principle. They are both double dribbles regardless of hand signals. There are different hand signals for a hack and for a push, but they are both fouls and evolve from the same principle.

Do you not agree that a palm is a violation b/c it is the stopping of a dribble and then starting again?

 

[Frances Drebin]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

Do you not agree that a palm is a violation b/c it is the stopping of a dribble and then starting again?

No, because I don't view a palm as a stopping of a dribble. When a guy palms a ball, he's not trying to pick up his dribble. He just gets his hand underneath the ball or mishandles it. A double dribble, by definition, is when a player dribbles the ball with both hands or when he resumes his dribble after picking it up. I don't view palming the ball as picking up the dribble.

Also, a hack and a push aren't even in the same neighborhood as similar fouls. Hell, they're completely different types of contacts. A hack is a swipe at the ball where the arm or hand gets hit and a push is, well, a push.

 

[8dog]

Are the refs gonna call ANY of the f'n palmings that these SC guards CONTINUE TO DO?

I think palming is stopping the dribble.

I think if they started allowing players to double dribble, I don't think they would continue to disallow players to palm the ball.

I realize its debatable but I think the ultimate authority on this is the Eastern Maine Board of Approved Officials:

Rather than thinking in terms of "palming", think about the ending of a dribble. The dribble ends when the ball comes to rest in or on a hand(s). When the dribbler causes the ball to come to rest (the dribble has ended). To then push the ball to the floor constitutes the beginning of a new dribble = illegal (double dribble. To allow a "double dribble" creates a substantial advantage.