ARKANSAS vs UofL - Tonight

[Eight_Banners]

Sutton was an outstanding coach. He just liked to drink. BCG could coach too, but he was psycho and liked to drink.
Pope cannot coach, but at least he does not drink.

BCG bad Ls in 2007-2008:
Gardner Webb @ Rupp
UAB @ Freedom Hall (essentially a home game)
@Houston (who finished 3rd in CUSA)
San Diego @ Rupp
Louisville @ Rupp (unranked UL)

UK played only six ranked teams all year (seven if you include Marquette in the round of 64)

BCG's first-year record: 18-13 (in a crappy SEC)

BCG's bad Ls in 2008-2009:
VMI @ Rupp (111-103 - tell me how bad Pope is at coaching defense)

UK played only five ranked opponents in 2008-2009 (six of you include LSU in the SEC tournament)

BCG's 2008-09 record: 22-14 (NIT third round)


Pope's 2024-25 squad played 12 ranked opponents last year. More than BCG in both seasons. His record v. ranked teams? 8-4.
How many bad losses has Pope had? Zero. How many NCAA Tournament wins? Two.

Has this team looked good against top opponents this year? At times. They definitely need some work and some players to get healthy. BCG teams only looked good because he had absolute studs in Patterson and Meeks. I wanted BCG to be great. I was over Tubby. But he was awful.

Also, he was a drunk.

Get out with BCG > Pope talk.

 

[Tim0808]

BCG bad Ls in 2007-2008:
Gardner Webb @ Rupp
UAB @ Freedom Hall (essentially a home game)
@Houston (who finished 3rd in CUSA)
San Diego @ Rupp
Louisville @ Rupp (unranked UL)

UK played only six ranked teams all year (seven if you include Marquette in the round of 64)

BCG's first-year record: 18-13 (in a crappy SEC)

BCG's bad Ls in 2008-2009:
VMI @ Rupp (111-103 - tell me how bad Pope is at coaching defense)

UK played only five ranked opponents in 2008-2009 (six of you include LSU in the SEC tournament)

BCG's 2008-09 record: 22-14 (NIT third round)


Pope's 2024-25 squad played 12 ranked opponents last year. More than BCG in both seasons. His record v. ranked teams? 8-4.
How many bad losses has Pope had? Zero. How many NCAA Tournament wins? Two.

Has this team looked good against top opponents this year? At times. They definitely need some work and some players to get healthy. BCG teams only looked good because he had absolute studs in Patterson and Meeks. I wanted BCG to be great. I was over Tubby. But he was awful.

Also, he was a drunk.

Get out with BCG > Pope talk.

That just explains how bad Pope is. Pope had 22 million and he is still worse. This season is inexcusable. We lost against UNC because we are tired? Come on. That is a coach screaming I do not know what to do.

 

[TortElvisII]

You have your take on Cal and I have mine. It was the same Cal as 2014. People want to act like he did not do anything, but the 2019 team was one of the hottest teams in the country at the end of the year. However, COVID happened and the tournament was canceled. After Covid, all these players were granted an extra COVID year and then Cal's super freshman started playing against 6th year, 7th year, 8th year seniors and the game changed to an older players game. Now that we have moved past COVID and all these COVID years have expired the game is shifting back to a young talented players game.
Exhibit A: Pope's older transfer Portal strategy. Team is Terrible.
Exhibit B: MIkel Brown, Koa Peat, Darryn Peterson, Cameron Boozer, Darius Acuff, etc...

The truth of the matter is college basketball changed a lot during that stretch and no one had patience while Cal was trying to figure it out, even though Cal still was a #2 seed, #6 seed, #3 seed during this time. Not perfect, but not terrible as some say.

In 2022, as #2 seed Kentucky lost to #15 seed Saint Peters that made it to the regional final. This Saint Peter's team also defeated the #7 seed and #3 seed before losing in the regional Final.
In 2023, as #6 seed Kentucky lost to the #3 seed Kansas State that made it to the regional final and was a 3 point short of going to the final four and they also beat Michigan State on their run.
In 2024, as #3 seed Kentucky lost to the #14 seed Oakland team that had a 24 year old 6th year senior that got hot and hit 10 three points shots. Oakland lost in overtime in the second round by 4 points when the same guy shot 6 for 17 from the field. Oakland still showed that they were a solid team, but I agree this was a bad loss. But it happens in the NCAA tournament.

Changes to the Game
1. COVID
2. NIL
3. Transfer Rule

Maybe Cal was not the same Coach as the 2010-2015 Coach, but maybe also the fans were not the same appreciative fans as the 2010-2015 fans.

Yeah you are wrong.

He may do better at Arkansas but he was done here.

 

[Tim0808]

Yeah you are wrong.

He may do better at Arkansas but he was done here.

Slow learner. You cannot help not knowing what you do not know.

 

[TortElvisII]

Slow learner. You cannot help not knowing what you do not know.

Oakland
KState
ST Peter's

Yeah, you lose. Extremely fast learner. I wanted him gone in 2018.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

BCG bad Ls in 2007-2008:
Gardner Webb @ Rupp
UAB @ Freedom Hall (essentially a home game)
@Houston (who finished 3rd in CUSA)
San Diego @ Rupp
Louisville @ Rupp (unranked UL)

UK played only six ranked teams all year (seven if you include Marquette in the round of 64)

BCG's first-year record: 18-13 (in a crappy SEC)

BCG's bad Ls in 2008-2009:
VMI @ Rupp (111-103 - tell me how bad Pope is at coaching defense)

UK played only five ranked opponents in 2008-2009 (six of you include LSU in the SEC tournament)

BCG's 2008-09 record: 22-14 (NIT third round)


Pope's 2024-25 squad played 12 ranked opponents last year. More than BCG in both seasons. His record v. ranked teams? 8-4.
How many bad losses has Pope had? Zero. How many NCAA Tournament wins? Two.

Has this team looked good against top opponents this year? At times. They definitely need some work and some players to get healthy. BCG teams only looked good because he had absolute studs in Patterson and Meeks. I wanted BCG to be great. I was over Tubby. But he was awful.

Also, he was a drunk.

Get out with BCG > Pope talk.

Bump

 

[Eight_Banners]

That just explains how bad Pope is. Pope had 22 million and he is still worse. This season is inexcusable. We lost against UNC because we are tired? Come on. That is a coach screaming I do not know what to do.

The facts you brought to counter my argument are impenetrable.

 

[Tim0808]

Oakland
KState
ST Peter's

Yeah, you lose. Extremely fast learner. I wanted him gone in 2018.

Opponents
2nd round team that lost in overtime.
Elite Eight team
Elite Eight team

Yep, right again. Program destroyer. Enjoy the fun this year.

You wanted him gone in to 2018? So, let's look at this realisticly.

• 2009-10: 35-3 (Elite Eight)
• 2010-11: 29-9 (Final Four)
• 2011-12: 38-2 (National Champions)
• 2012-13: 21-12 (Missed NCAA Tournament, NIT)
• 2013-14: 29-11 (NCAA Runner-Up)
• 2014-15: 39-3 (Final Four)
• 2015-16: 27-9 (Sweet Sixteen)
• 2016-17: 32-6 (Elite Eight)
• 2017-18: 26-11 (Elite Eight)
• 2018-19: 30-7 (Elite Eight)

Sounds like a very knowledgeable basketball fan. Not!
Fire the guy for a record of 306 wins and 73 losses and tournament finishes of 1 National Championship, 1 National Finalist, 2 Final Four, 4 Elite Eights, 1 Sweet Sixteen, 1 NIT.

That is proof you cannot please some fans.

 

[Tim0808]

Bump

BCG
2003 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2004 WAC Coach of the Year, Regular Season Conference Title, NCAA Tournament
2005 Big 12 Coach of the Year
2006 NCAA Tournament
2007 Big 12 Coach of the Year, 2nd place Big 12, Best Record Big 12 finish in History for Texas A&M, NCAA Sweet 16.
2008 SEC CO-Coach of the Year, SEC East Champship
2009 22 wins - 14 losses, Kentucky Fired him and Alan Cutler
NCAA Tournament career record 3-4
Summary 4 Conference Coach of the Year Awards, 2 Regular Season Conference Championships, 4 NCAA Tournament Appearances,

Pope
2016 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2017 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2018 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2019, No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2020 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2021 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2022 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2023 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2024 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2025 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2026 TBD 5-3
NCAA Tournament career record 2-3
Summary: 3 NCAA Tournament Appearances.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

BCG
2003 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2004 WAC Coach of the Year, Regular Season Conference Title, NCAA Tournament
2005 Big 12 Coach of the Year
2006 NCAA Tournament
2007 Big 12 Coach of the Year, 2nd place Big 12, Best Record Big 12 finish in History for Texas A&M, NCAA Sweet 16.
2008 SEC CO-Coach of the Year, SEC East Champship
2009 22 wins - 14 losses, Kentucky Fired him and Alan Cutler
NCAA Tournament career record 3-4
Summary 4 Conference Coach of the Year Awards, 2 Regular Season Conference Championships, 4 NCAA Tournament Appearances,

Pope
2016 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2017 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2018 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2019, No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2020 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2021 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2022 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2023 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, No NCAA Tournament appearance
2024 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2025 No Coach of the year, No Conference Championships, NCAA Tournament
2026 TBD 5-3
NCAA Tournament career record 2-3
Summary: 3 NCAA Tournament Appearances.

And? People comparing Billy G to Pope were intentionally using hyperbole. The board is infested enough with parasites so we don’t need liars. Yes, it’s going bad. We don’t need exaggeration to point that out. This year has been hemorrhoids.

 

[TortElvisII]

Opponents
2nd round team that lost in overtime.
Elite Eight team
Elite Eight team

Yep, right again. Program destroyer. Enjoy the fun this year.

You wanted him gone in to 2018? So, let's look at this realisticly.

• 2009-10: 35-3 (Elite Eight)
• 2010-11: 29-9 (Final Four)
• 2011-12: 38-2 (National Champions)
• 2012-13: 21-12 (Missed NCAA Tournament, NIT)
• 2013-14: 29-11 (NCAA Runner-Up)
• 2014-15: 39-3 (Final Four)
• 2015-16: 27-9 (Sweet Sixteen)
• 2016-17: 32-6 (Elite Eight)
• 2017-18: 26-11 (Elite Eight)
• 2018-19: 30-7 (Elite Eight)

Sounds like a very knowledgeable basketball fan. Not!
Fire the guy for a record of 306 wins and 73 losses and tournament finishes of 1 National Championship, 1 National Finalist, 2 Final Four, 4 Elite Eights, 1 Sweet Sixteen, 1 NIT.

That is proof you cannot please some fans.

He was over with. Some could see it. Some lived in past.

 

[Tim0808]

He was over with. Some could see it. Some lived in past.

Some always look at the grass on the other side of the fence.