Awesome Jewel Heist at the Louvre

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I find nothing "awesome" about a thief of the French crown jewels. Brazen, or well executed, are descriptions I could live with, but I never think of thievery as awesome.
Right, that caught my eye as well. Nothing awesome about it.
 

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Saw the former head of the FBI art theft division talk about this theft today. He said this was not that well executed. They fooled a few people but said they left behind much forensic evidence and other evidence. He feels that someone or people will call and turn these people in as more evidence and things released to the public. He feels if you really want to be successful for an art theft you need to be a single. Groups of thieves tend to have someone that will talk and share with someone what they did. Also said you need to really plan it to leave behind no forensic evidence or any other evidence.
 

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The head of their security needs to voluntarily resign.
Here's the latest picture of him
 
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Saw the former head of the FBI art theft division talk about this theft today. He said this was not that well executed. They fooled a few people but said they left behind much forensic evidence and other evidence. He feels that someone or people will call and turn these people in as more evidence and things released to the public. He feels if you really want to be successful for an art theft you need to be a single. Groups of thieves tend to have someone that will talk and share with someone what they did. Also said you need to really plan it to leave behind no forensic evidence or any other evidence.
Pffft. Has he never seen Ocean’s Eleven? Or Twelve? Thirteen?
 

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Very underrated movie - "How To Steal A Million". Peter O'Toole was a very lucky man on that set. Oh, to be locked in a storage closet w/ Audrey.

 
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I find nothing "awesome" about a theft of the French crown jewels. Brazen, or well executed, are descriptions I could live with, but I never think of thievery as awesome.

Yeah, that's a terrible take by the OP. Let's enjoy the heist of French crown jewels that will no doubt be sold to some nefarious dictator/autocrat/oligarch and will never see the light of day again. Ugh.
 

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So the louvre has windows that are not alarmed - how French of them.
Second floor

Supposedly budget cuts are to
Blame for decreased security measures .
Leaning a little away from super professional thieves . Broken tiara, recovered motorcycle(s). Obviously , a heavy possibility of inside job or inside source . Thieves attempted to set fire to the lift truck and failed.
 
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Second floor

Supposedly budget cuts are to
Blame for decreased security measures .
Leaning a little away from super professional thieves . Broken tiara, recovered motorcycle(s). Obviously , a heavy possibility of inside job or inside source . Thieves attempted to set fire to the lift truck and failed.

So you don't alarm the second floor window which obviously you can enter through at the Louvre where priceless items are on display - stupid.
 
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Sounds like French security was a disaster. Supposedly there were 5 employees/ security officers in the jewel room/ adjacent rooms and they never interfered or didn’t get there within 7-10 minutes of the alarms going off. Sounds pretty odd.
 
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Sounds like French security was a disaster. Supposedly there were 5 employees/ security officers in the jewel room/ adjacent rooms and they never interfered or didn’t get there within 7-10 minutes of the alarms going off. Sounds pretty odd.
With robberies , the security guards are instructed to make sure visitors are safe as first priority . This was instituted after the machete incident. Security guards are unarmed.
 
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So you don't alarm the second floor window which obviously you can enter through at the Louvre where priceless items are on display - stupid.
Thursday WSJ- blind spot where the truck parked, only one camera and it faced the other direction. window did have a sensor, and it triggered an alarm., responding security was unarmed. 140 carat Regent diamond in adjacent case undisturbed.
 

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Sounds like French security was a disaster. Supposedly there were 5 employees/ security officers in the jewel room/ adjacent rooms and they never interfered or didn’t get there within 7-10 minutes of the alarms going off. Sounds pretty odd.

If you've ever been to the Louvre, the size of it is mind-boggling. The main palace (not counting the modern addition) is 2.6 million square feet. Bigger than Versailles, bigger than Esterhazy Palace. The only museum in the world that's bigger is the Hermitage in St. Petersburg. The Louvre is like 10 Wal-Marts broken up into long corridors.

So it's not surprising that there aren't enough cameras or sensors. Security for a building like that would be crazy expensive. On the other hand, the Louvre costs 22 Euro and takes in 9 million visitors, so that's roughly $200m just in admission revenue. I'm sure the French will secure it now that the vulnerability has been exposed.
 
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I've been to the Hermitage. Quite the spectacle.
The Louvre rewiring would require 37.26 miles of cabling.
 

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If you've ever been to the Louvre, the size of it is mind-boggling. The main palace (not counting the modern addition) is 2.6 million square feet. Bigger than Versailles, bigger than Esterhazy Palace. The only museum in the world that's bigger is the Hermitage in St. Petersburg. The Louvre is like 10 Wal-Marts broken up into long corridors.

So it's not surprising that there aren't enough cameras or sensors. Security for a building like that would be crazy expensive. On the other hand, the Louvre costs 22 Euro and takes in 9 million visitors, so that's roughly $200m just in admission revenue. I'm sure the French will secure it now that the vulnerability has been exposed.
I have been to the Louvre once... Don't need to go back. The crowds are crazy sometimes. One of my best friends from high school did a semester abroad in France and never came back. Married a french girl and when we vist them there he has given me many galleries and small museums to go to in Paris that have so many Monets, etc that you can get right up close to. Only the locals know these places, I just find it more enjoyable than battling the crowds at the Louvre.
 
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I have been to the Louvre once... Don't need to go back. The crowds are crazy sometimes. One of my best friends from high school did a semester abroad in France and never came back. Married a french girl and when we vist them there he has given me many galleries and small museums to go to in Paris that have so many Monets, etc that you can get right up close to. Only the locals know these places, I just find it more enjoyable than battling the crowds at the Louvre.

I agree, the Louvre is the most infuriating museum in the world. The whole place is horribly overcrowded and the entrances are poorly designed and very inefficient. 90% of it is just Mona Lisa tourists. The French president has announced she'll be moved to another location which will help.

I think they should make ML into a theme park ride so people can buy a ticket and whiz by at high speed and buy their picture at the end of the ride, because that's all people want anyway. Then those people can leave the Louvre to people who actually want to see art. I don't even find ML that exceptional -- the slight smile is something that appears in Italian, French and Spanish paintings over hundreds of years -- it's well done but Leonardo didn't invent that; there are hundreds of portraits just as intriguing, quite a few of them in the Louvre if people would bother to look.

The Louvre could use a top-to-bottom reorg but that can never happen because the museum itself and its arrangements of galleries are historical and important. The Louvre is more than an art collection, it's also the history of France for the last 600 years.