B1G Refs

lunker35

Sophomore
Jan 1, 2010
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What is going to take for us to get a fair shake at a game. We won despite terrible officiating yet again. We get that same crew all the time. They were calling two totally separate games today. Our players were bigger and more physical and we’re getting mauled and they didn’t blow a thing. We got called for every ticky tack foul. I’m so sick of it and it happens all the time. Just call it the same both ways. Had to rant but I’m so sick of it.
 

Zootcat

Redshirt
Nov 17, 2008
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Some people I know suggest it’s normal for the home team to have an advantage based on fouls called, and that I should just accept it. But why? Why should there be a home field officiating advantage? It’s really frustrating.
 

hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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What is going to take for us to get a fair shake at a game. We won despite terrible officiating yet again. We get that same crew all the time. They were calling two totally separate games today. Our players were bigger and more physical and we’re getting mauled and they didn’t blow a thing. We got called for every ticky tack foul. I’m so sick of it and it happens all the time. Just call it the same both ways. Had to rant but I’m so sick of it.
The fact that we were winning the battle in the paint pretty convincingly generally leads to a lot more calls against the the other team. In this case it was the opposite. And a number of those calls were ridiculous like the one on Young when the ball was still on the other side of half court.
 

TheC

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
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Some people I know suggest it’s normal for the home team to have an advantage based on fouls called, and that I should just accept it. But why? Why should there be a home field officiating advantage? It’s really frustrating.
Maybe the crowd reaction? Refs are only human.
 

Zootcat

Redshirt
Nov 17, 2008
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Maybe the crowd reaction? Refs are only human.
This is the reasoning people usually give me. And, it applies to our home court when opposing teams' fans outnumber ours. But I still say, why? Refs have eyes, They should call the game based on their eyes, not their ears (crowd noise).

Sometimes (and I may be wrong on this), it feels like this becomes accepted practice/part of the game and may be quasi-intentional. If it's just being human, then I suppose I can accept it, although I still don't really understand why a ref would subconciously appease/succomb to the crowd. If it's "part of the game," that's unfair, and I don't accept it.

Which is it?
 

hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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This is the reasoning people usually give me. And, it applies to our home court when opposing teams' fans outnumber ours. But I still say, why? Refs have eyes, They should call the game based on their eyes, not their ears (crowd noise).

Sometimes (and I may be wrong on this), it feels like this becomes accepted practice/part of the game and may be quasi-intentional. If it's just being human, then I suppose I can accept it, although I still don't really understand why a ref would subconciously appease/succomb to the crowd. If it's "part of the game," that's unfair, and I don't accept it.

Which is it?
Refs don't like getting yelled at any more than others do. Might shade some of the calls. But even that doesn't really fully address what happened there yesterday
 

willycat

Junior
Jan 11, 2005
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This is the reasoning people usually give me. And, it applies to our home court when opposing teams' fans outnumber ours. But I still say, why? Refs have eyes, They should call the game based on their eyes, not their ears (crowd noise).

Sometimes (and I may be wrong on this), it feels like this becomes accepted practice/part of the game and may be quasi-intentional. If it's just being human, then I suppose I can accept it, although I still don't really understand why a ref would subconciously appease/succomb to the crowd. If it's "part of the game," that's unfair, and I don't accept it.

Which is it?
Give us one game where opposing fans outnumbered us at W-R? I help a bit... it never has happened.
 
May 29, 2001
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This is the reasoning people usually give me. And, it applies to our home court when opposing teams' fans outnumber ours. But I still say, why? Refs have eyes, They should call the game based on their eyes, not their ears (crowd noise).

Sometimes (and I may be wrong on this), it feels like this becomes accepted practice/part of the game and may be quasi-intentional. If it's just being human, then I suppose I can accept it, although I still don't really understand why a ref would subconciously appease/succomb to the crowd. If it's "part of the game," that's unfair, and I don't accept it.

Which is it?
Research I read points to the size/proximity of the home crowd having an unwitting effect on the refs' decisions. The researchers looked at the issue in a number of sports, including ball/strike calls. They stressed there's no evidence officials mean to do this. The bigger the crowd, the closer they are to the game, the more the officials bend calls toward the home team. The adoption of replay has probably helped here.
 

GatoLouco

Sophomore
Nov 13, 2019
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Give us one game where opposing fans outnumbered us at W-R? I help a bit... it never has happened.
Don't know about that. But I'm confident the "empty seats" team is the most represented, over the course of a season, at the WR.
 
Sep 15, 2006
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Sure, officials make some bad calls, but most of the online complainers could not do any better. Finding qualified officials at youth league and high school levels is becoming a bigger and bigger problem because people don't want to take b.s. from an increasingly profane and abusive American public.
 

PURPLECAT88

Senior
Feb 4, 2003
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Sure, officials make some bad calls, but most of the online complainers could not do any better. Finding qualified officials at youth league and high school levels is becoming a bigger and bigger problem because people don't want to take b.s. from an increasingly profane and abusive American public.
I'd like Big Ten officials to meet a higher standard than "better than online complainers".

I also don't think the American public is more abusive and profane. There has been a huge campaign to encourage fans at the youth sports level to go easier on both players and coaches. As someone who played youth sports in the 70s and has coached for more years than I can count, I've seen a great improvement in fan behavior over the last 40 years.