There was so much we had back in the day that is no longer.
Except that Penn State could actually run the ball in the era to which I'm referring.Some good, some bad. I will never miss things like the BBDB defense, weak secondaries and the ever predictable runs up the middle on 1st and 2nd downs.
Except that Penn State could actually run the ball in the era to which I'm referring.
FIFYLast year aside, we've had Saquon Barkley. No doubt the OL could be better in recent years.
I'm with ya LionsAndBears . . . I'm so tired of hearing the OL is going to be better this year (as we have heard the past 8 years). Even CJF has been hesitant on commenting on the OL this summerand Miles Sanders and Journey Brown.
Yep. And that BBDB defense, it never broke.Except that Penn State could actually run the ball in the era to which I'm referring.
Yep. And that BBDB defense, it never
Yeah, PSU never lost a game during Paterno's tenure in the 4th quarter. My god, some of you can’t get over the past.Yep. And that BBDB defense, it never broke.
I expect you are thinking of the Burlsworth Trophy (the Heisman for walk onsCan't forget West Scranton's own Mister Moxie himself- Matt McGloin. Didn't he win a national walk-on award?
Who said anything about losing a game in the 4th quarter? It is well known that for several decades PSU played a defense often referred to as bend but don't break. It drove many fans, including me, crazy over the years and spawned the notion that PSU allowed many QBs to have career performances. But PSU executed that defense extremely well, they allowed yardage between the 20s but not much in the red zone and they got a lot of turnovers. The greatest example was the '86 Fiesta Bowl when Miami moved the ball up and down the field but scored 10 points. Seems like the anti-Paterno crowd often sees things that are not there.Yeah, PSU never lost a game during Paterno's tenure in the 4th quarter. My god, some of you can’t get over the past.
No, IIRC he was actually a 4 star WR recruit.Was Apke a walk on?
+1. We had a couple of LBrs that I thought were walk ons. Josh Hull or Mike Hull maybe?Recently we have had Nassib, Johnson, and Smith.
Not bad, but maybe not the NFL all pro some may have desired.
Apke just got released.No, IIRC he was actually a 4 star WR recruit.
The OL has been a problem more often than not the better part of two decades. I'm not arguing that it hasn't been an issue in recent years, but it was also a frequent problem the last decade under Joepa. There were too many threads on it and theories on why the problem existed to count. (Anyone care to have an old-fashioned lively discussion on the merits of HIT S&C training?) Watching old videos, I'm starting to wonder if someone placed a curse on the program after '95, because Penn State OLs that could control the LOS since then have been few and far between.Last year aside, we've had some good running teams. No doubt the OL could be better in recent years.
you got it with the last part. Anyone can go to a camp these days, more kids being seen and much bigger recruiting budgets to find these kidsThe OL has been a problem more often than not the better part of two decades. I'm not arguing that it hasn't been an issue in recent years, but it was also a frequent problem the last decade under Joepa. There were too many threads on it and theories on why the problem existed to count. (Anyone care to have an old-fashioned lively discussion on the merits of HIT S&C training?) Watching old videos, I'm starting to wonder if someone placed a curse on the program after '95, because Penn State OLs that could control the LOS since then have been few and far between.
Keeping it on subject, I wonder if television exposure of lesser programs had made kids more willing to take a scholarship from them rather than walk-on. Similarly, I wonder if the proliferation of camps and ease of sharing player videos has made it harder to find players that have totally flown under the radar but still have high end potential
Nebraska used to take a lot of big farm kids as walk-ons and turn them into tank o-linemen for their running game. I think a lot of those kids are now being seen at camps and through website videos and opting for day-one scholarships from other schools over the chance to earn a scholarship after a year or two at UNL.you got it with the last part. Anyone can go to a camp these days, more kids being seen and much bigger recruiting budgets to find these kids
With the help of steroids.Nebraska used to take a lot of big farm kids as walk-ons and turn them into tank o-linemen for their running game. I think a lot of those kids are now being seen at camps and through website videos and opting for day-one scholarships from other schools over the chance to earn a scholarship after a year or two at UNL.
Smart move on his part. I am not a big believer in talk any way. Let me see on the field.I'm with ya LionsAndBears . . . I'm so tired of hearing the OL is going to be better this year (as we have heard the past 8 years). Even CJF has been hesitant on commenting on the OL this summer
It broke more than most want to rememberYep. And that BBDB defense, it never broke.
This is a damn good post . Thanks we need some one with the numbers to come up with the answersAny names to look out for or follow?
Or CJF knows his OL play has been horrid the past 8 years and realizes he can't defend it's play any longerSmart move on his part. I am not a big believer in talk any way. Let me see on the field.
Speaking of OL, I think there are a couple of PWO kids that have big bodies at least. Isn't there a 6'7" 290 kid from MD that's walking on?This is a damn good post . Thanks we need some one with the numbers to come up with the answers
??????Speaking of OL, I think there are a couple of PWO kids that have big bodies at least. Isn't there a 6'7" 290 kid from MD that's walking on?
3 stars both 247 and espn. Mid level at best wr... offered by few and psu was far and away the best to offer. Worked out just fine, imo!No, IIRC he was actually a 4 star WR recruit.
Correct about Drayton.Believe Troy Drayton and Joe Jurevicius were both walk ons.
Thanx, OB... found this on Troy where it references his being a walk on... the article reveals how he felt about putting names on the jerseys... not a fan.Correct about Drayton.
Joe Jurevicius was a Parade All American and a highly touted recruit.
I met Troy in the Grand Cayman airport, he was there putting on a clinic for the Miami Dolphins trying to get the word out on football.Thanx, OB... found this on Troy where it references his being a walk on... the article reveals how he felt about putting names on the jerseys... not a fan.
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Penn State great Troy Drayton says he won't watch Nittany Lions until names come off jerseys
"I follow them from afar, but I can't fathom watching a game," Drayton said.www.pennlive.com