Baye
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Rivals - 3 Star
247 - 3 Star
On3 - 4 star
247 Composite has him as a 4 star but honestly not sure what goes into that since only one service has him as a 4 star.
247 - 3 Star
On3 - 4 star
247 Composite has him as a 4 star but honestly not sure what goes into that since only one service has him as a 4 star.
Yea their composite is really strange bc they have him 117 overall
On3 104
247 150
Rivals 140
131 would be the average of the 3. 117 would seem to weight on3 over everyone else. Or they are factoring in another service that has Ndongo rated higher as well
Fairly certain that @Richard Schnyderite has suggested his level of play is deserving of a four star or something along those lines. Richie thinks very highly of him.
Yea he will likely be a 4 star on all services by the time rankings are final. He looks like a top 100 player
Even weirder is I’m pretty sure On3 isn’t even factored into the composite, ESPN is and ESPN has him unranked
There's still one more update to go, but right now he's No. 140 overall for Rivals with the last four-star being ranked No. 120 currently. In the previous cycle, that four-star status extended to No. 137 so I think he gets it when it's all said and done.
He's been very impressive since his move to PSA. He's still considered a project in my eyes as he's a bit raw, but overall his ceiling is extremely high.
Just as in football, there are other services they include in their composite rating. Of course we would love to know which ones but they are not about to advertise for their competition.
On3 discloses who is in their composite and how it's calculated
Yeah I saw that when they first started up for football. The downside is they are not picking up everyone that does rankings probably because they don't have the same clout that 247 does to get agreements done.
Super excited to see this kid at Rutgers. Not sure why he's not a top 100 player, the late transfer to PSA seems weird but it's PSA, it's not that unusual.
Looks like he should be top 100 now with the potential to be to 40 or better.
We are going to need some strong portal work to keep the upperclassmen competitive in an upper vs lower classmen game.
Maybe I'm missing the point, but I care more about how much he'll help the team. Does it bother anyone today that Geo was a 3 star?
High 3 star or 4 star? There is no science to it. Its all subjective judgment. It matters much less than how he fits into the culture.
Higher star ratings don't guarantee a player will be better but it increases the odds
There's a reason players like Gavin Ace and Dylan are rated so highly. It's pretty unlikely any of them are busts
There's a reason players like Gavin Ace and Dylan are rated so highly. It's pretty unlikely any of them are busts
It shouldn't matter except people like to rate classes and make end all be all judgments on them before they even play a game which is illogical.
Having success in the EYBL, while not a guarantee, seems like the most predictive
I have no idea how Pike, Knight, TJ Thompson etc watch guys at all different levels and can see who will be good at Rutgers.
Richie do you think he will be able to contribute next year as a freshman
It matters because every study out there suggests the higher rated classes are better on average.
Baye recently played for PSA in Prep Championship series which they won. Made first team all tournie. NBA scout said he will be in the league and that Rutgers fans are going to love him. He a relative neophyte to basketball. He can guard all 5 positions, protect the rim, take the ball baseline to baseline and score outside and inside. Kid is a mid to high 4 And was an unknown when Rutgers saw him. Have not seen him live but I look forward to seeing him in person. He was a STEAL. He needs more weight and muscle like many freshmen but has the drive to reach for the goal.
Adding onto this, I saw a game of him against Papa Kantes team on Youtube and even though he didn’t necessarily dominate, he was impressive. I think I saw him guard every position, including Papa. At one point he had the ball at the top of the arc, hit papa with a cross, spin move and fadeaway and hit it. Another they ran a play similar to what we’d run for Cam and hit a baseline jumper. Could definitely be a freshman that surprises many.
I agree.
2 on the All-Big Ten Freshmen team? Dare to dream!
These are the types of things that jump out on his highlights. He may be newer to bball but he's clearly a complete natural compared to someone like Cliff who looks like he started playing bball later in life and doesn't look natural
Ndongo looks pretty smooth. He can dribble and shoot the 3 with nice form. Score inside and out. I think he may be more college ready and less of a project than some think with am NBA ceiling
Agreed, he also looks like an absolute dog out there. High activity, high physicality, no fear competitor.
My thoughts exactly. He looks incredibly skilled for someone who is relatively new to basketball.
Seems like a further along version of Mag ---- strong athleticism and a scrapper.
Checked out on YouTube and thought to myself highschool players have really improved if this kid is a 3 star. 6'9 handling the ball like a guard, hitting jumpers from mid range and 3 and is a high flyer. Could have used him on this year's team. Jamichael Davis also looks better than his ranking and can't wait to see a shooter like Griffith at Rutgers. This is probably the best looking class I've seen pikell bring in tbh.
Davis was hurt the last two AAU cycles I read not just the last one. It's probably why he was more under the radar. He is putting up numbers on an elite HS team though. I really like his game
You are correct of course, but it would look nice if recruiting articles and popular publications have us ranked high for the recruiting year
Maybe it helps with the next recruiting cycle, other high level recruits noticing
Totally agree. He needs to play and he’s the only true 4 on the roster from a size and defensive standpoint. If he can hit the three above 33% then he’ll play a lot I believe.
He needs to play? From a highlight reel? People, please let Pike do his thing. We are about to soar. Enjoy the ride but let the coach coach. Kid looks very very promising but let him step on campus before we clamor for a certain amount of minutes.
Expectations are getting too high. Never count on freshman bigs to contribute much; if they do, it’s a great surprise, but they just generally need time to develop (especially if they don’t have much experience).
There’s always a chance, but better not to bank on production until sophomore year.
Even Cliff who was being talked about as a NBA prospect before he got here, had a more limited and second fiddle role as a freshmen.
Have you seen his film? He doesn’t play like a typical big man. He plays like an athletic wing that happens to be 6’8 or 6’9.
Expectations? We are just talking about his game. If we can’t talk about his game, what is the sense of this board?
I think Baye will play significantly. Can’t wait to see him play with Gavin and I think both will be a big part of our team’s success this year.