Bedlam has run its course...
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Gundy griping about us leaving is crocodile tears in my opinion. 1. he won't have the measuring stick of bedlam on his resume much longer. 2. with the expansion of the playoff, his team might get an appearance every few years depending on how they handle the Big 12 competition. There is no reason he cannot keep up with the joneses in the big 12 moving forward.
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Aranda might as well. Unsure how long Fickell will stay at Cincy. Regardless, Gundy can be the bigger fish in the small pond moving forward.
Possible but I doubt he leaves Oklahoma. I don't see this happening. Not after this long. Imo.
I am talking Mike not Cale. Mike Gundy will step out of OU's shadow. OU will take that monkey and place it on Bama or Georgia or LSU back.
Ok I did not say Gundy was going to leave Oklahoma so I was confused by your response about Gundy leaving Oklahoma.
Great.
First Nebraska.
Now, Oklahoma State.
Two great rivalries down the drain.
However, maintaining the Texas rivalry, restarting the ATM and Missouri rivalries and adding Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss and Mississippi State on an annual basis is going to be great.
I would guess that Alabama and Auburn will slide eastward to the East Division while OU and Texas are added to the West Division.... if geographical integrity is adhered to.
The 16-team SEC as I see it with OU and Texas added: (maybe this is already in place)
East....Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Florida, Kentucky, Tennessee and South Carolina.
West...OU, Texas, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State and Texas A & M.
I'm not sure OSU can stay as competitive as they have been without its games with OU and Texas and even with a rebuilt Big 12 Conference.
I have nothing to base my feeling but I find it hard to grasp that the SEC will put Auburn, Bama, Georgia, Florida & Tennessee in the same division. It appears to me that the East would out weigh the West in talent. Again, I have nothing to base this opinion.
Good point....and what do the NCAA and the networks care about geography?
My fear is that they'll do to OU what they did to Mizzou, and put us in the East. I find it hard to believe that LSU and Bama won't be in the same division.
Does anybody know if football is the only Bedlam casualty of the SEC move, or is OSU going to refuse to play us in any sport?
Does anybody know if football is the only Bedlam casualty of the SEC move, or is OSU going to refuse to play us in any sport?
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Good question. If I were to guess I’d say “no”. It may be rare and in the long future, but I don’t see there never being another game between the schools.
Sec realignment will be interesting. Geography will play no part imo. The addition of OU and tx will no doubt shake things up, hard to predict.
The addition of Texas and OU might be the impetus for them to do away with East and West designations. Might come up with something new, unrelated to directions.
Epic butthurt on Gundy's part.
- Gundy will miss receiving the share of money that OU generates from TV revenues and bowl games. Nobody likes watching their meal ticket walk out the door.
- He'll miss the guaranteed sell out every other year. Those are hard to come by at BPS.
- He'll never live down the fact that OSU tried to change conferences but nobody else (Pac, Big 10, or SEC) wanted them.
As an aside while he's whining about OU's overtures to the SEC, I guess he expected OU to ask his permission first? What an assclown.
- Gundy will miss receiving the share of money that OU generates from TV revenues and bowl games. Nobody likes watching their meal ticket walk out the door.
- He'll miss the guaranteed sell out every other year. Those are hard to come by at BPS.
- He'll never live down the fact that OSU tried to change conferences but nobody else (Pac, Big 10, or SEC) wanted them.
As an aside while he's whining about OU's overtures to the SEC, I guess he expected OU to ask his permission first? What an assclown.
It's a new day in Stillwater. I'm pulling for their success actually. Little brother did give us some really exciting games under Mullet.
For 32 years, from 1928 through 1959, OU and OSU were not in the same conference. OU was in the Big 6 and then Big 7 and then when OSU joined the conference in 1960, it became the Big 8. We still played each other every year for all of those seasons in football. Most of those seasons, until 1957, they were called Oklahoma A&M. So 32 years in different conferences, then 60 plus in the same conference.
We were also not in the same conference from 1920-24. But we played every season. Before 1914, we were an independent, and Oklahoma A&M was below Division I or whatever designation it had in those days. But we still played most seasons.
I understand the challenges of setting up NC schedules planned a decade or more in advance. But OSU is cutting off their nose to spite their face. I'm going to miss Bedlam football. I still hope we play them in most everything else.
We were also not in the same conference from 1920-24. But we played every season. Before 1914, we were an independent, and Oklahoma A&M was below Division I or whatever designation it had in those days. But we still played most seasons.
I understand the challenges of setting up NC schedules planned a decade or more in advance. But OSU is cutting off their nose to spite their face. I'm going to miss Bedlam football. I still hope we play them in most everything else.
I agree with Plaino. Really wish they would find a way to play this game yearly. I grew up in the Stillwater area and really enjoyed the ribbing between my friends and I. I do know that many OSU fans now that I do know, feel like we are leaving for the money. Well what else do they think OU done it for because it was the money and luckily OU has the FB history that OSU just doesn't have.
I would think most older OSU fans like a majority of us wishes the game could continue though. Both schools could just make it a annual OOC game and keep the rivalry intact.
I would think most older OSU fans like a majority of us wishes the game could continue though. Both schools could just make it a annual OOC game and keep the rivalry intact.
How many OOC games are we going to have when we are in SEC? If we schedule Stillwater every year, we may miss playing a lot of good teams. Usually even the better teams don’t schedule two good programs in the same year. That’s assuming Stillwater remains on the same path after we leave the B12. Just saying.
Oklahoma has won 63 games against Oklahoma State during my life. OSU has won 11 games and tied one. I’ve never thought the Bedlam Series was anything more than a game for OU to whip the Cowboys’ ***.I wouldn't mind this at all.
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I think the upcoming 12 team playoff opens the door for more games in OOC scheduling. What is wrong with playing 2 quality teams OOC vs 2 scrubs? I think more teams will be open to challenging themselves because of the upcoming 12 team playoff format
So you would rather we replace them with No Iowa? Like it or not OSU is no longer a easy win for OU. OU can still play the Miami’s, Michigans and still keep OSU on the schedule in OOC that will make the OOC schedule very respectable.
If we get to play 4 OOC then I’m with you. We should play at least 2 quality teams. That would be awesome.
I think it will only be 3 because the heavy talk is 9 Conf games. I would still be ok with OSU and a heavyweight vs 1 heavy weight and 2 scrubs.
Depends on how many OOC games we have each year. If only 3, I don’t want OSU every year. No way. If 4 then that’s another matter.
That would be good with me but that’s not the way the administration sees it. You can bet on that. Just like Alabama does. They rarely play two quality OOC games.
Speaking of that , have you seen those SEC OOC schedules next year? Very weak for every team.
Well, Gundy is 3-14 against the Sooners. He’s had close games but if Brent duplicates that record against Mike I bet you won’t give him the same respect you’re giving Gundy.Bedlam has been good with Gundy though. You have to admit brother.