Best States to recurit Football prospects

[railroadkat_1]

California...39 million
Texas........27 million
Florida.......20 million
Ohio..........11.5 million
Georgia.....10 million
Kentucky.....4.4 million
Tennessee 6.6 million

Starting with California that leaves the other 6 states where we should be recruiting from. Others could be added. There is a lot of JC programs that all the SEC recruits and KY should continue to sign 3 to 4 yearly as Bama, Georgia,, Tenn. and most all schools do. This is a starting point for discussion. What say you?

 

[TJS4UK]

If I had my druthers, this would be the order of priority...

South Florida
Ohio
Florida
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia/Alabama/Tennessee
Florida
JUCO
Florida
East Coast
Florida
Best of the rest

 

[hmt5000]

If I had my druthers, this would be the order of priority...

South Florida
Ohio
Florida
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia/Alabama/Tennessee
Florida
JUCO
Florida
East Coast
Florida
Best of the rest

i would add the pan handle of florida too.

 

[BlueRaider22]

We need to go where we can pull recruits. Right now the recruiting done by this staff is the best in UK's history.....at least on paper. And a good portion of it is pounding Ohio. Much of our staff has connections with Ohio. Packing up and shipping our recruiters down to South Florida doesn't make much sense.....and likely will lead to a decrease in recruiting. Adding Gran/Hinshaw gets us more ties to Florida which is nice.

 

[railroadkat_1]

If I had my druthers, this would be the order of priority...

South Florida
Ohio
Florida
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia/Alabama/Tennessee
Florida
JUCO
Florida
East Coast
Florida
Best of the rest

Only listed the most fertile States and everyone knows that California, Texas, and Florida lead the nation.

 

[dallasg23]

With Kentuckys recruiting budget. Recruiting California routinely is just not in the books. There are just as many recruits on this side of the Mississippi of the same caliber to go after. I'm stationed here in Virginia. And there is some serious high school football played out here in Virginia beach. With quite a few big prospects. But it's definitely ACC territory

 

[akaukswoosh]

Full numbers
State Total 3/4/5-stars # of FBS schools 3/4/5-stars per FBS school
New Jersey 222 1 44.4
Georgia 758 4 37.9
Florida 1,295 7 37
California 878 7 25.1
Texas 1,337 12 22.3
Missouri 104 1 20.8
Maryland* 184 2 18.4
South Carolina 173 2 17.3
Pennsylvania 257 3 17.1
Virginia* 245 3 16.3
Illinois 232 3 15.5
Alabama 277 4 13.9
Louisiana 333 5 13.3
Arizona 131 2 13.1
Mississippi 182 3 12.1
Ohio 462 8 11.6
Wisconsin 54 1 10.8
North Carolina 284 6** 9.5
Hawaii 47 1 9.4
Washington 94 2 9.4
Tennessee 184 4 9.2
Arkansas 89 2 8.9
Connecticut 39 1 7.8
Oklahoma 116 3 7.7
Michigan 190 5 7.6
Minnesota 36 1 7.2
Indiana 132 4 6.6
Utah 98 3 6.5
Kansas 58 2 5.8
Massachusetts 52 2 5.2
New York 78 3 5.2
Nebraska 24 1 4.8
Oregon 43 2 4.3
Iowa 41 2 4.1
Nevada 41 2 4.1
Colorado 60 3 4
Kentucky 59 3 3.9
Idaho 16 2 1.6
New Mexico 10 2 1
West Virginia 10 2 1
Wyoming 2 1 0.4
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

If I had my druthers, this would be the order of priority...

South Florida
Ohio
Florida
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia/Alabama/Tennessee
Florida
JUCO
Florida
East Coast
Florida
Best of the rest

Georgia produces the 4th most D1 prospects in the country behind Florica, Texas and California. All of those schools have multiple P5 schools in them. Georgia only has 2 and 1 of those recruits at a pretty low level for a P5 school. If we could sign 8 of the top 10 and 25 of the top 40 in Georgia every year I wouldn't care if we ever signed an out of state kid, Richt didn't put enough emphasis instate and it came back to bite him. There is no reason that shouldn't have happened, Tech is no recruiting threat as long as Johnson is there, elite kids don't want to play in his system. But we were painfully slow offering instate kids, sometimes years behind them, Derrick Watson is an example, we didn't offer until fall of his sr year in HS. Our recruiting strategy made no sense to me because of that yet we were able to recruit pretty well with little or no effort, a couple years we stopped recruiting anyone in Jan. That has changed, even with Smart still coaching at Bama kids are talking and excited about how much more effort he is putting in recruiting than the old staff. First time in 15 years we have had a staff that made recruiting a high priority.

 

[railroadkat_1]

Full numbers
State Total 3/4/5-stars # of FBS schools 3/4/5-stars per FBS school
New Jersey 222 1 44.4
Georgia 758 4 37.9
Florida 1,295 7 37
California 878 7 25.1
Texas 1,337 12 22.3
Missouri 104 1 20.8
Maryland* 184 2 18.4
South Carolina 173 2 17.3
Pennsylvania 257 3 17.1
Virginia* 245 3 16.3
Illinois 232 3 15.5
Alabama 277 4 13.9
Louisiana 333 5 13.3
Arizona 131 2 13.1
Mississippi 182 3 12.1
Ohio 462 8 11.6
Wisconsin 54 1 10.8
North Carolina 284 6** 9.5
Hawaii 47 1 9.4
Washington 94 2 9.4
Tennessee 184 4 9.2
Arkansas 89 2 8.9
Connecticut 39 1 7.8
Oklahoma 116 3 7.7
Michigan 190 5 7.6
Minnesota 36 1 7.2
Indiana 132 4 6.6
Utah 98 3 6.5
Kansas 58 2 5.8
Massachusetts 52 2 5.2
New York 78 3 5.2
Nebraska 24 1 4.8
Oregon 43 2 4.3
Iowa 41 2 4.1
Nevada 41 2 4.1
Colorado 60 3 4
Kentucky 59 3 3.9
Idaho 16 2 1.6
New Mexico 10 2 1
West Virginia 10 2 1
Wyoming 2 1 0.4
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits

Thanks smash I wanted a few to discuss. Texas I still feel like in the future we need to pull a few out of there. Leaving Florida, Georgia and Ohio as the active states we can actively pull kids from on a regular basis. Good job finding every State.
Thanks

 

[railroadkat_1]

With Kentuckys recruiting budget. Recruiting California routinely is just not in the books. There are just as many recruits on this side of the Mississippi of the same caliber to go after. I'm stationed here in Virginia. And there is some serious high school football played out here in Virginia beach. With quite a few big prospects. But it's definitely ACC territory

I only listed California because of the prospects that come from that State. Many of them end up in Junior colleges that are recruit-able. Virginia add North Carolina and the other SEC States. We have slipped into Alabama to get a recruit.

 

[Perrin75]

To me, Georgia and Florida would be the only states I would look at as a priority in the South. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maryland and Virginia would give us a lot of bang for the buck. There is a lot of talent to be had there and we may possibly be the only SEC school hitting those areas hard. With the demise of Penn St and Va Tech over the last couple of years I would think their is a very big opportunity for making some significant connections.

 

[TJS4UK]

i would add the pan handle of florida too.

Although South Florida was my #1 area of emphasis, followed by Ohio @ #2... Florida, as a whole, was emphasized repeatedly on my list. :smiley:

 

[TJS4UK]

We need to go where we can pull recruits. Right now the recruiting done by this staff is the best in UK's history.....at least on paper. And a good portion of it is pounding Ohio. Much of our staff has connections with Ohio. Packing up and shipping our recruiters down to South Florida doesn't make much sense.....and likely will lead to a decrease in recruiting. Adding Gran/Hinshaw gets us more ties to Florida which is nice.

Marrow can still hit Ohio hard. Gran, Scott, Hinshaw and/or Eliot can hit Florida hard. That still leaves Brumbaugh, Ansley, Buh and Schlarman.

 

[Krisys]

Let Gran/Hinshaw work Florida, Marrow/stoops Ohio, and the rest of the staff work instate, Georgia.

 

[JordanJ21]

I'm going ....

Georgia- Plenty of 4 stars that don't have huge offers. Tons and tons of talent.
Ohio- Our track record of getting kids OSU doesn't offer speaks for itself.
Kentucky- Slowly churning out more D1 prospects. Will never be at the point that we can get the majority of prospects from. Goes back to statistics and population.
Florida- You always find a ton of guys from Florida as diamonds in the rough, seems more so than other states.

 

[Oldtrainer_rivals]

For the CATS:
Florida, Georgia, Ohio and Kentucky!

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Full numbers
State Total 3/4/5-stars # of FBS schools 3/4/5-stars per FBS school
New Jersey 222 1 44.4
Georgia 758 4 37.9
Florida 1,295 7 37
California 878 7 25.1
Texas 1,337 12 22.3
Missouri 104 1 20.8
Maryland* 184 2 18.4
South Carolina 173 2 17.3
Pennsylvania 257 3 17.1
Virginia* 245 3 16.3
Illinois 232 3 15.5
Alabama 277 4 13.9
Louisiana 333 5 13.3
Arizona 131 2 13.1
Mississippi 182 3 12.1
Ohio 462 8 11.6
Wisconsin 54 1 10.8
North Carolina 284 6** 9.5
Hawaii 47 1 9.4
Washington 94 2 9.4
Tennessee 184 4 9.2
Arkansas 89 2 8.9
Connecticut 39 1 7.8
Oklahoma 116 3 7.7
Michigan 190 5 7.6
Minnesota 36 1 7.2
Indiana 132 4 6.6
Utah 98 3 6.5
Kansas 58 2 5.8
Massachusetts 52 2 5.2
New York 78 3 5.2
Nebraska 24 1 4.8
Oregon 43 2 4.3
Iowa 41 2 4.1
Nevada 41 2 4.1
Colorado 60 3 4
Kentucky 59 3 3.9
Idaho 16 2 1.6
New Mexico 10 2 1
West Virginia 10 2 1
Wyoming 2 1 0.4
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits

That's an interesting list which probably explains a lot about UK and that school down the street. Fairly amazing they only lead the likes of those last 4. Still it can be overcome as evidenced by Oregon's position on that list.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Marrow can still hit Ohio hard. Gran, Scott, Hinshaw and/or Eliot can hit Florida hard. That still leaves Brumbaugh, Ansley, Buh and Schlarman.

My point was that the OP mentioned things like getting into Texas or Georgia. Given the amount of talent in those states, I certainly wouldn't mind that at all........if we had someone that was connected in those states. If we have connections there, then great, let's go.

Take Marrow just for the sake of proving a point.......I'm not suggesting anyone is saying this. Obviously Marrow is a beast in Ohio. It would make little to no sense to ship him down part of the time to Texas just because they have more talent per capita than Ohio. The team would be best served to keep him in Ohio.

The idea is that most of this staff already has their established areas. So, the discussion of how to divide up the recruiting footprint is kind of moot.

 

[billoliver40]

Ohio has been good for us. California is IMO just too far away for where we are as a program. Texas is recruited super heavy. I think Florida would be a good place...the kids seem about a year ahead of everyone else in development. Georgia has been good to UK. The State school should lock down the best in state kids sooner or later.
I would hope Kentucky, Ohio, Florida and Georgia.

 

[Tskware]

For the CATS:
Florida, Georgia, Ohio and Kentucky!

Add Tennessee in there and you have the winner! Recruit primarily the I-75 corridor from Ohio to Northern Florida, and hit it as hard as you can, it is the best way for UK to be successful. Complete waste of time to recruit La, Alabama, Miss, Tex, Cal, etc. Too many other teams much closer to the action for us to ever get any good players.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Ohio has been good for us. California is IMO just too far away for where we are as a program. Texas is recruited super heavy. I think Florida would be a good place...the kids seem about a year ahead of everyone else in development. Georgia has been good to UK. The State school should lock down the best in state kids sooner or later.
I would hope Kentucky, Ohio, Florida and Georgia.

While Georgia produces far more talent than UGA can sign and the other 3 D1 schools don't really go after the higher rated guys, well Tech does just none of them want to play in their offense. There are so many schools within 30 minutes of Georgia's borders, AU, FSU, CU, USC, UT even UF are all within easier driving distance to areas of Georgia than UGA. The metro Atlanta area is by far has the most prospects, and all of those schools recruit it hard. Then there are the other SEC schools that recruit the state hard, alone with some Big 10 schools now. If I were guessing UK has the least amount of recruiting pressure than any other SEC except maybe A&M, Missouri even recruits the state hard.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

It's just that we have very little big time recruits here. And if we do all those big names come running. Bama has camped out here trying to get prospects they want and so does South Carolina. Ohio St is always going after those rare quality recruits we sometimes produce. It's a battle to keep them instate and when one leaves to say USC or Bama it's a big loss for us.

 

[jauk11]

Georgia produces the 4th most D1 prospects in the country behind Florica, Texas and California. All of those schools have multiple P5 schools in them. Georgia only has 2 and 1 of those recruits at a pretty low level for a P5 school. If we could sign 8 of the top 10 and 25 of the top 40 in Georgia every year I wouldn't care if we ever signed an out of state kid, Richt didn't put enough emphasis instate and it came back to bite him. There is no reason that shouldn't have happened, Tech is no recruiting threat as long as Johnson is there, elite kids don't want to play in his system. But we were painfully slow offering instate kids, sometimes years behind them, Derrick Watson is an example, we didn't offer until fall of his sr year in HS. Our recruiting strategy made no sense to me because of that yet we were able to recruit pretty well with little or no effort, a couple years we stopped recruiting anyone in Jan. That has changed, even with Smart still coaching at Bama kids are talking and excited about how much more effort he is putting in recruiting than the old staff. First time in 15 years we have had a staff that made recruiting a high priority.

Not too long ago we had a ton of players from Georgia, including most of our stars.

But then in our most successful era I think we got our best players from Pennsylvania, mostly western Pennsylvania.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Not too long ago we had a ton of players from Georgia, including most of our stars.

But then in our most successful era I think we got our best players from Pennsylvania, mostly western Pennsylvania.

I thought Lagrange GA was where most of our stars came from when we were pretty decent.

 

[Oldtrainer_rivals]

Not too long ago we had a ton of players from Georgia, including most of our stars.

But then in our most successful era I think we got our best players from Pennsylvania, mostly western Pennsylvania.

You are right. It was rich grounds for The Bear and a lesser degree for Coach Collier. Wasn't Steve M. from that area?

 

[railroadkat_1]

Although South Florida was my #1 area of emphasis, followed by Ohio @ #2... Florida, as a whole, was emphasized repeatedly on my list. :smiley:

Really? LOL

 

[John Henry]

You are right. It was rich grounds for The Bear and a lesser degree for Coach Collier. Wasn't Steve M. from that area?

He was as was Babe Parelli. When Bryant was at Alabama he continued to bring in great players from Pennsylvania, Joe Namath comes to mind. I once asked a UK old timer who played for Bear Bryant what was the connection for Bryant and Pennsylvania since the Bear was from the Deep South. He pointed out Bryant coached at Maryland before UK and Maryland was next door. Pennsylvania was a fertile recruiting ground and he became very familiar with the state. Makes sense.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Not too long ago we had a ton of players from Georgia, including most of our stars.

But then in our most successful era I think we got our best players from Pennsylvania, mostly western Pennsylvania.

Recruiting can change at any time, kids can give false info our to people or just have a standard reply they give when interviewed. But this class could be the best we have ever signed with almost all coming from instate depending on how signing day goes for us. But its a pretty good year for instate talent this year too, a bunch of high 4* DL, 2 5* athletes and several 4* DB, WR, a little weak at LB and OL of course. 17 will be a very good year for QB in Georgia, 3 pretty highly rated guys but down a little at RB, partly because so many teams are going to spread offenses I think.

 

[railroadkat_1]

Recruiting can change at any time, kids can give false info our to people or just have a standard reply they give when interviewed. But this class could be the best we have ever signed with almost all coming from instate depending on how signing day goes for us. But its a pretty good year for instate talent this year too, a bunch of high 4* DL, 2 5* athletes and several 4* DB, WR, a little weak at LB and OL of course. 17 will be a very good year for QB in Georgia, 3 pretty highly rated guys but down a little at RB, partly because so many teams are going to spread offenses I think.

Grumppyolddawg I really enjoy your participation here. Your a very knowledgeable poster and a fun fan to discuss football with!