You won't get any grief from me. The offense got pretty bad and Josh was fired for it, the defense had been just as bad and even worse yet MS is still hanging around and acting like he is untouchable. I have asked this question before. Venables had just as much a hard time defending against big12 offenses as Mike has. Is it Coaching? Lack of talented Players? Not developing players? Are big 12 offenses just too hard to defend? Too complicated? Which is it? If OU is an Elite Program then why can't we attract as much talent on the defensive side of the ball as we do the offensive side? When Venables was at OU some on here and other outlets said Brent's defensive scheme was too complicated for the players to understand and thats why his defensive units struggled. Is it still complicated under MS, I seriously doubt it.