Funny post. Don't "blame them" for leaving? Without opening the old wounds again let's at least agree that Collins didn't really see these guys as fitting into his system and for whatever reason they are no longer here. I am quite sure he did not try to convince them to stay.Originally posted by Turk:
I don't fault Cher "I got you babe" Ajou for transferring, nor do I fault Turner or Kale from leaving, but the vacancies of big men have noticeably cost us and will prolly be felt even more next year. That said, Collins did fine getting folks to fill in the gaps, it will just take time.
I'm not going to argue that point. I'm just suggesting that Turk's original insinuation that they departed thus leaving us in a lurch is kind of ridiculous.Originally posted by willycat:
doc, those two "big guys" were not Div.1 like players and why they were offered schlorships is a good question only a few people no longer at NU know.
It was essentially two scholies taken up by a frosh and soph who had no business being on a B1G roster. When every scholarship is pretty darn important, that's a problem...Originally posted by DocCatsFan:
I'm not going to argue that point. I'm just suggesting that Turk's original insinuation that they departed thus leaving us in a lurch is kind of ridiculous.
He might be. We'll see. He's being nailed to the hardwood cross at the moment though.Originally posted by willycat:
Deering, who is Christ Collin's? NU's BB savior?
Wow. Or maybe he just realized that the next 60 years of his life was more important than the next 2?Originally posted by hdhntr1:
I think he would have been OK with Turner had he (Turner) embraced the idea that he was a 4 and truly loved BB enough to do what it takes. That took a level of work that Turner was not willing/able to do. But since he didn't, there was no place to play him and he was taking up a spot on the roster. That he stayed at NU indicates that he never really had the love of BB. It worked out best for him as it is likely he just transferred to a different kind of scholarship.
I also recall it being reported that grades played a role in his withdrawal from the team...Originally posted by hdhntr1:
That said, his leaving the team was likely best for everyone.
Basketball could very well have been (or still be) tremendously important to Evan... but earning a degree from Northwestern seems to have been even more important. Absent a transfer to a similar academic institution at a lower level of play, it's not likely he could have gotten a degree of a similar caliber elsewhere. Throw in the ability to stay closer to home and it isn't all that hard to see why he might remain at NU without playing basketball.Originally posted by hdhntr1:
I am just saying that if BB was his love, it would be likely he would have transferred someplace he could play. That he didn't would indicate BB was not that important to him. Without that love of the game he was not going to do what it took to be the player we needed. He was a reach and a project from the beginning so he really needed to have that love of the game and indications were that he did not have it. But his exit did leave a hole in the roster that we have just started to fill. That said, his leaving the team was likely best for everyone.
Sheesh... not sure where that came from -- discussion of NU big men (Eschmeyer?)?Originally posted by thewildcat2011:
If we had Evan Turner, we probably would be in the tournament by now.
NU was Mike's dream school from the time he was a kid. Are we really judging him by his decision to STAY at Northwestern?Originally posted by FightNorthwestern:
IMO if he really wanted to juggle academics and basketball, he could have transferred to that school down south. I recall he even went to the HS affiliated with U of C.
Who's judging him?Originally posted by DocCatsFan:
NU was Mike's dream school from the time he was a kid. Are we really judging him by his decision to STAY at Northwestern?Originally posted by FightNorthwestern:
IMO if he really wanted to juggle academics and basketball, he could have transferred to that school down south. I recall he even went to the HS affiliated with U of C.
I wasn't "judging" him in the slightest. Just pointing out that there is a school with a similar academic profile nearby where he could have kept playing if he wanted to.Originally posted by DocCatsFan:
NU was Mike's dream school from the time he was a kid. Are we really judging him by his decision to STAY at Northwestern?Originally posted by FightNorthwestern:
IMO if he really wanted to juggle academics and basketball, he could have transferred to that school down south. I recall he even went to the HS affiliated with U of C.