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I haven't done this before so I may be way off, but this is what I'm thinking for seeds in 2 weeks.

Lilledahl - 4. would get cruz in quarters and Ramos in semis. 3rd is probably best he could finish.
Davis - 5. Less matches hurts. Would set up Van Dee who beat him in the quarters. His record isn't the best, but 5 of his 7 losses is out of conference so I think he gets a better seed. Ayala in semis if he gets past Van Dee. Could see 3rd, but he's got the lowest floor by far.
Bartlett - 1. Vombaur in semis who's had a good year then rematch against Mendez/Hardy winner
SVN - 1. I think they'll put him at 1. SVN beat Parco, who beat Lovett, who beat SVN. Knocking Lovett down since he has an out of conference loss and SVN then over Parco for H2H.
Kasak - 2. The injury default hurts, but it is what it is. Not sure what they'll do with Teemer. I have him 4th so Kasak would get Taylor in semis.
Mesenbrink - 1. yeah, he's winning
Haines - 1. see above
Starocci - 1. see above
Barr - 2. Rematch with Cardenas in semis and then would get Buchanan again in finals.
Kerk - 2. Didn't really worry about who deserved 1, I think they give it to Gable and it doesn't matter. The two will meet in the finals and we'll see if Kerk has any shot at winning.
 
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If this is the case with seeds

LL finishes 3rd ( loss to Ramos) who finishes 1st
Davis finishes 3rd ( loss to Drake) who loses to Byrd
Bartlett 2nd ( loss to Mendez)
VanNasty 1st
Kasak 1st
Mitch next topic
Haines 1st
CStar 1st
Barr 3rd ( loss to Cardenas) who finishes 1st
Kerk 2nd ( loss to Gable) only to beat Gable at NCAA
 
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Sunshinedynomite 1 said:
If this is the case with seeds

LL finishes 3rd ( loss to Ramos) who finishes 1st
Davis finishes 3rd ( loss to Drake) who loses to Byrd
Bartlett 2nd ( loss to Mendez)
VanNasty 1st
Kasak 1st
Mitch next topic
Haines 1st
CStar 1st
Barr 3rd ( loss to Cardenas) who finishes 1st
Kerk 2nd ( loss to Gable) only to beat Gable at NCAA
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I think Bartlett beats Mendez. Had him beat at NCAAs. Just think Mendez has trouble with Bartletts style.
 
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gimb14 said:
I haven't done this before so I may be way off, but this is what I'm thinking for seeds in 2 weeks.

Lilledahl - 4. would get cruz in quarters and Ramos in semis. 3rd is probably best he could finish.
Davis - 5. Less matches hurts. Would set up Van Dee who beat him in the quarters. His record isn't the best, but 5 of his 7 losses is out of conference so I think he gets a better seed. Ayala in semis if he gets past Van Dee. Could see 3rd, but he's got the lowest floor by far.
Bartlett - 1. Vombaur in semis who's had a good year then rematch against Mendez/Hardy winner
SVN - 1. I think they'll put him at 1. SVN beat Parco, who beat Lovett, who beat SVN. Knocking Lovett down since he has an out of conference loss and SVN then over Parco for H2H.
Kasak - 2. The injury default hurts, but it is what it is. Not sure what they'll do with Teemer. I have him 4th so Kasak would get Taylor in semis.
Mesenbrink - 1. yeah, he's winning
Haines - 1. see above
Starocci - 1. see above
Barr - 2. Rematch with Cardenas in semis and then would get Buchanan again in finals.
Kerk - 2. Didn't really worry about who deserved 1, I think they give it to Gable and it doesn't matter. The two will meet in the finals and we'll see if Kerk has any shot at winning.
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IMO Lilledahl gets the 3. 1 Ramos and 2 Peterson are straight-forward. Lilledahl beat Smith H2H.

Also don't see Shayne getting the 1. It'll either be Lovett if they look only at the H2H results (Parco's win was the only non-bonus), in which Shayne gets the 2. Or if they consider non-conference, then Parco will be the 1 and then Shayne gets the 3 for losing to Lovett. I suspect it'll be the former, with Shayne vs Parco in the semis.

Lovett's nonconferemce loss was in OT to defending national champ Henson. The real nonconference issue is Parco having several more good wins.

Agree with the rest.
 
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El_Jefe said:
IMO Lilledahl gets the 3. 1 Ramos and 2 Peterson are straight-forward. Lilledahl beat Smith H2H.

Also don't see Shayne getting the 1. It'll either be Lovett if they look only at the H2H results (Parco's win was the only non-bonus), in which Shayne gets the 2. Or if they consider non-conference, then Parco will be the 1 and then Shayne gets the 3 for losing to Lovett. I suspect it'll be the former, with Shayne vs Parco in the semis.

Lovett's nonconferemce loss was in OT to defending national champ Henson. The real nonconference issue is Parco having several more good wins.

Agree with the rest.
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I think smith only has 1 big ten loss. Would like to see lilledahl get 3rd seed but he has 2 conference losses.
 
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El_Jefe said:
IMO Lilledahl gets the 3. 1 Ramos and 2 Peterson are straight-forward. Lilledahl beat Smith H2H.

Also don't see Shayne getting the 1. It'll either be Lovett if they look only at the H2H results (Parco's win was the only non-bonus), in which Shayne gets the 2. Or if they consider non-conference, then Parco will be the 1 and then Shayne gets the 3 for losing to Lovett. I suspect it'll be the former, with Shayne vs Parco in the semis.

Lovett's nonconferemce loss was in OT to defending national champ Henson. The real nonconference issue is Parco having several more good wins.

Agree with the rest.
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yeah, Roar on the old rivals board has that. Not a member there, but I've read it. He does a good job.

I dinged Lilledahl for the extra and worse loss, but get that argument too. I hope he's 3 cause then I see the finals as a possibility.

I get the 149 you have. I gave more influence to the second loss of Lovett. Tough to say since we don't know how the caches actually vote.
 
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gimb14 said:
I get the 149 you have. I gave more influence to the second loss of Lovett. Tough to say since we don't know how the caches actually vote.
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Sunshinedynomite 1 said:
Van Nasty got screwed!
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Finishing 3rd at B10s would work out OK.

The top 4 seeds will likely be 1 Henson, then the B10 top 3 placers in order.

Shayne has beaten Henson before. Being the 4 would therefore be preferable to drawing Lovett in the NCAA semis. (McNeil maybe could get the 4, but won't get the 3. Close enough.)

Alternately, being the 2 and facing Parco in the semis. Henaon beat Lovett this year, but in OT, so that's riskier than Parco drawing Lovett.

Worst case is getting Lovett in the semis.
 
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El_Jefe said:
Finishing 3rd at B10s would work out OK.

The top 4 seeds will likely be 1 Henson, then the B10 top 3 placers in order.

Shayne has beaten Henson before. Being the 4 would therefore be preferable to drawing Lovett in the NCAA semis. (McNeil maybe could get the 4, but won't get the 3. Close enough.)

Alternately, being the 2 and facing Parco in the semis. Henaon beat Lovett this year, but in OT, so that's riskier than Parco drawing Lovett.

Worst case is getting Lovett in the semis.
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Prefer not to have him see Lovett until as late as possible. I think Lovett's funky stuff gives him problems.
 
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