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So after playing guitar for 31 years I don't think I ever really listened to and actively tried to learn from the "original" blues players --- until I'd already been playing maybe 25 years or so

Kinda did it backwards - listened to my older brothers Black Sabbath / Led Zeppelin / Pink Floyd albums and emulated some of that


But it wasn't until I left Atlanta and started playing with some rural GA players -- that were all AT LEAST "very good" -- a few were truly Great Musicians......and they just were STEEPED in blues, you know?

Made me practice harder and finally start pulling up old blues musicians like classic literature

I listed to all the ones you can think of and tried to give some attention to anyone mentioned in rock bio's etc

Here are the ones that really stuck -- the classic blues players that, as far as I'm concerned, are at the top of the heap

Otis Rush

I believe he was considered part of the post WW2 "Chicago Sound" -- Otis continued playing long after that period and I always loved his phrasing.
His tone is a little more "stinging" than I like to play but it works for his bad, black ***.
Honestly, I don't know that anyone ever had a better blues VOICE either

Freddie King

(Best of the "Kings" IMO)
Freddie looked like a big *** offensive lineman playing his Gibson ES 235 (335?)
His voice sounded like it had more "gospel roots" to it than Otis and I do believe he was younger and came along a bit later......Freddie King is the total package with the voice, licks and groove with a kick *** backing band

-- here's one that I really didn't expect since he's mostly known to be a slide player (I'm not)

Elmore James

Pull up his version of "Rollin and Tumblin" sometime and play it back to back with Muddy Water's version
Muddy's sounds like classic delta blues - like something that would be in the Smithsonian showing us all an example of "Delta Blues"
(I realize Muddy wasn't really a Delta Blues sound -- but THAT SONG in his hands -- was)
Now put on Elmore -- here's a link

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=92599c07177a7be95b4f6f0aec748889&action=view

DAMN -- it's like rock and roll and a Pentecostal Tent Revival paid a visit
Drum track gives it more life and the bass line walks the main melody
But his VOICE -- it's somehow younger, leaner, hungrier and more urgent

It's one of my top 3 blues tunes of all time
Elmore was considered the "master of the slide guitar" I believe but I listen to him for his FEEL
Check him out sometime

^^^ SO those are my MAIN GUYS that I can listen to all day^^^^^^^

There's so much good stuff out there though so here are the honorable mentions that are on the IPOD but don't quite stack up song after song IMO

1) Muddy Waters -- don't like his earliest stuff (heresy right?) -- "Crosseyed Cat" and "Champagne and Refer" are songs with humor that came later.....Muddy did have a great voice BUT you'll notice my top 3 guys are guitar players -- Muddy wasn't

2) Howling Wolf -- His voice was untouchable (and sometimes a little ominous) --- but so powerful that I just can't sit and have more than 2 or 3 of Mr Burnett's tunes coming my way in one sitting......"Spoonful" and "Evil" are great tunes and you can almost smell the whiskey and brimstone in the room where that man belief it out

3) Taj Mahal ---- even if it's only for ONE SONG -- "Caught the Kady" ......the arrangement builds nicely without having too much "paint on the canvas" and he had a style that was a bit different than all the others --- I do believe he was from Harlem, NY as opposed to primary being southern men like the others

Others that are considered "great" that I sampled and just didn't like for one reason or another

BB King
Robert Johnson
John L Hooker (although his cameo on "The Blues Bros" was epic and too quick)
Lightning Hopkins
Little Walter
Albert King


^^ all great musicians --- but they don't give me the damn chills

I"m probably forgetting someone and will update later - may add some links too
 
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Ah...Blues! My favorite topic. Here are a couple samples for your consideration. Starting with an all-too-often overlooked player, Blind Willie McTell.



For some truly remarkable finger pickin give a listen to some Mississippi John Hurt.



And it should go without saying that you must give a listen to the master! The dude that's been at it for over 60 years. The dude that Jimi Hendrix looked up to. The current elder statesman of the genre. Mr Buddy Guy!

 

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Oh my my my

The one player that wasn't on my list -- that I actually felt bad for not adding

Was Buddy Guy

and I've heard of Miss J Hurt --- but will take a deeper dive this afternoon

the other guy is new turf for me
can't wait to wander in barefooted, drunk and eager to explore the new world

(I mostly mean that in a figurative sense)

thanks for posting this, Ohio
your screen name is over 15 years old isn't it?
 

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Love the Blues...just recently joined our local Blues society here in Evansville. I'm not very much on the history, trying to learn & listen, but love the music.

There's a few really good "area" guitarists/ groups that I love listening too... Wish I could play a guitar, sing, or somethin'....
 

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I am on the opposite end of this spectrum. I have listened to the old blues stuff (the three Kings, Buddy Guy, Howling Wolf,etc...) so much in the past that now I much prefer to listen to blues-based rock or contemporary blues artists.

Doesn't mean I don't respect that the latter wouldn't exist without the former. And it doesn't mean I don't break out the classic stuff from time to time...because I do.

~~~but here's what really I came to say~~~

You want chills, castlewyvernrubicscube?

Behold, I give you Son House...

 
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I saw a Zeppelin tribute band several years ago. Being a live concert, the blues aspect of tbat music was much more pronounced than what you hear on the radio.

Saw Buddy Guy last fall. That dude still rocks for being 80+. I could really hear some Hendrix & others in his music. (Really the other way around).
 

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I saw a Zeppelin tribute band several years ago. Being a live concert, the blues aspect of tbat music was much more pronounced than what you hear on the radio.

Saw Buddy Guy last fall. That dude still rocks for being 80+. I could really hear some Hendrix & others in his music. (Really the other way around).


I saw the Page/Plant tour back in the mid 90's at Rupp and loved it. Would have loved to have seen LZ live back in their heyday.

Buddy Guy is the man. He put out a new double album a couple of years ago that was pretty strong...Born to Play Guitar. Good stuff for the most part.

I also saw Taj Mahal live at The Hullabaloo festival at Churchill Downs back in 2010 or so. He had to be in his late 70's but he was putting in work. Put on an outstanding show. I liked him better than most of the other artists I saw that weekend.
 

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Meant to include in my LZ section that while I love that band it is criminal how much they ripped off the old blues guys.
 

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So after playing guitar for 31 years I don't think I ever really listened to and actively tried to learn from the "original" blues players --- until I'd already been playing maybe 25 years or so

Kinda did it backwards - listened to my older brothers Black Sabbath / Led Zeppelin / Pink Floyd albums and emulated some of that


But it wasn't until I left Atlanta and started playing with some rural GA players -- that were all AT LEAST "very good" -- a few were truly Great Musicians......and they just were STEEPED in blues, you know?

Made me practice harder and finally start pulling up old blues musicians like classic literature

I listed to all the ones you can think of and tried to give some attention to anyone mentioned in rock bio's etc

Here are the ones that really stuck -- the classic blues players that, as far as I'm concerned, are at the top of the heap

Otis Rush

I believe he was considered part of the post WW2 "Chicago Sound" -- Otis continued playing long after that period and I always loved his phrasing.
His tone is a little more "stinging" than I like to play but it works for his bad, black ***.
Honestly, I don't know that anyone ever had a better blues VOICE either

Freddie King

(Best of the "Kings" IMO)
Freddie looked like a big *** offensive lineman playing his Gibson ES 235 (335?)
His voice sounded like it had more "gospel roots" to it than Otis and I do believe he was younger and came along a bit later......Freddie King is the total package with the voice, licks and groove with a kick *** backing band

-- here's one that I really didn't expect since he's mostly known to be a slide player (I'm not)

Elmore James

Pull up his version of "Rollin and Tumblin" sometime and play it back to back with Muddy Water's version
Muddy's sounds like classic delta blues - like something that would be in the Smithsonian showing us all an example of "Delta Blues"
(I realize Muddy wasn't really a Delta Blues sound -- but THAT SONG in his hands -- was)
Now put on Elmore -- here's a link

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=92599c07177a7be95b4f6f0aec748889&action=view

DAMN -- it's like rock and roll and a Pentecostal Tent Revival paid a visit
Drum track gives it more life and the bass line walks the main melody
But his VOICE -- it's somehow younger, leaner, hungrier and more urgent

It's one of my top 3 blues tunes of all time
Elmore was considered the "master of the slide guitar" I believe but I listen to him for his FEEL
Check him out sometime

^^^ SO those are my MAIN GUYS that I can listen to all day^^^^^^^

There's so much good stuff out there though so here are the honorable mentions that are on the IPOD but don't quite stack up song after song IMO

1) Muddy Waters -- don't like his earliest stuff (heresy right?) -- "Crosseyed Cat" and "Champagne and Refer" are songs with humor that came later.....Muddy did have a great voice BUT you'll notice my top 3 guys are guitar players -- Muddy wasn't

2) Howling Wolf -- His voice was untouchable (and sometimes a little ominous) --- but so powerful that I just can't sit and have more than 2 or 3 of Mr Burnett's tunes coming my way in one sitting......"Spoonful" and "Evil" are great tunes and you can almost smell the whiskey and brimstone in the room where that man belief it out

3) Taj Mahal ---- even if it's only for ONE SONG -- "Caught the Kady" ......the arrangement builds nicely without having too much "paint on the canvas" and he had a style that was a bit different than all the others --- I do believe he was from Harlem, NY as opposed to primary being southern men like the others

Others that are considered "great" that I sampled and just didn't like for one reason or another

BB King
Robert Johnson
John L Hooker (although his cameo on "The Blues Bros" was epic and too quick)
Lightning Hopkins
Little Walter
Albert King


^^ all great musicians --- but they don't give me the damn chills

I"m probably forgetting someone and will update later - may add some links too
Just curious about BB and John Lee. Did you sample their "Best of" stuff or delve into their latter work?
 

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I like the blues, but there's something about those songs...they depress me.
 

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I get romantically involved with, say, Liza, and, uh, she starts taking up with Big Sam, the farm owner. So I go to a bar where they're drinking and I shoot them both dead. There are witnesses and I go to prison. My question is, sir: Would I get the blues?
 

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Oh my my my

The one player that wasn't on my list -- that I actually felt bad for not adding

Was Buddy Guy

and I've heard of Miss J Hurt --- but will take a deeper dive this afternoon

the other guy is new turf for me
can't wait to wander in barefooted, drunk and eager to explore the new world

(I mostly mean that in a figurative sense)

thanks for posting this, Ohio
your screen name is over 15 years old isn't it?

Yeah, I've been around for a while. More like 20+ years. Started back three or four owners ago when it was Wildcat Chat, run by SteveJ, Darrell, Keith and Babs.

Had to add just one more song. John Lee Hooker, "Devil's Jump", recorded in 1948. Love the distortion. Could very well be the earliest RnR song ever recorded. Folks back then could not possibly have appreciated what they heard.

 

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I am on the opposite end of this spectrum. I have listened to the old blues stuff (the three Kings, Buddy Guy, Howling Wolf,etc...) so much in the past that now I much prefer to listen to blues-based rock or contemporary blues artists.

Doesn't mean I don't respect that the latter wouldn't exist without the former. And it doesn't mean I don't break out the classic stuff from time to time...because I do.

~~~but here's what really I came to say~~~

You want chills, castlewyvernrubicscube?

Behold, I give you Son House...




I'm not a vain man

But this word --->castlewyvernrubicscube


is going to be re-used somewhere in my life
may write a song with that name

or make it the middle name of one of my girls before she turns 18 and before anyone knows why I've snuck off to town hall....with no shirt on and all that jazz

NICEPOST -- interesting that you started with those guys
Do you listen to the older rockabilly at all?
I've heard some -- it's probably the other half of the genetic spawn we can rock and roll


Some of the newer artists being posted are awesome too
My focus was on the early guys BUT Bonamassa is at the top of my list for newer players

But you wanna know who I think is the best damn "modern" blues player?
I think -- in terms of the style I play/emulate and tone and all that -- I think he was better than SRV.....

THIS GUY -- Gary Moore WAS bad motherfracker

best "modern blues player" ever ----
SHUT U{P -- don't disagree!!!!!



and now that I"ve talked all that smack......I can't find the damn video that I wanted.......so here's another one of his........

****

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=73e55cf05c083e309b5614167386f908&action=view
 

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If this Lightin Hopkins don't chill ya, you're dead



Leadbelly is the guy I can listen to on repeat all day.

NOW FOR THE WHITE MAN BLUES





Rory. Best ever; won't hear **** to the contrary
 

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Hell yes

Getting the new ideas flowing now
RORY is one of those guys I've heard a LOT about -- and NEVER listened to!!

THANKYOU!!!

I made a Leadbelly reference to my daughter today - so that's weird
He's about as far back as you can GO for American Roots/Blues isn't he?

Sonny Boy Williamson is another motherf'ker
 

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Listen to the more straight bluesy stuff from Rory I posted, then dig into this. My favorite Rory song; his opus



He's the reason I have a strat and a vox. I can't play for ****, but that's what I have to not play worth a **** on
 

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1. In which Stevie Ray Vaughan and Jeff Beck do Freddie King's arrangement of Don Nix's classic "Going Down." This is my favorite live rendition of a song ever. Jeff Beck does a fine solo. Then he passes it onto SRV and it's face melting time. Don't go in helicopters, guys.



2. In which Gov't Mule (w/ Derek Trucks) play my actual favorite song.



3. In which the criminally underrated Jeff Healey (along with Dr. John and an absolute killer rhythm section) perform "See the Light" on Jools Holland's show. I especially love watching Marcus Miller in this one because of how he slaps the bass like a crazy person and then also for the "holy crap, this guy's good" reactions he makes when Jeff starts going off.

 

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Some guys you may have never heard of, but are outstanding....

Jimmy Thackery


Tab Benoit


Hubert Sumlin


Ronnie Baker Brooks and Jellybean Johnson


Street performer Richard Johnston
 

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JEFF F'ING BECK

I've tried SO HARD to like him over the years
I don't understand that M'Fker

I think he PURPOSELY makes his music inaccessible - I Really do

I think "Led Boots" and "Because We've Ended as Lovers" -_ and maybe "Thelonius Beck" are the only three songs I like

hell......they're the only three songs I UNDERSTAND


I mean I WANT to LIKE The guy.......

haha - Jeff Healey was the first and only time (high school - Middlesboro KY 1990) I told a girl that a song made me think of her......


Little Walter is another older guy -- he was more like something in between big band and blues though -- wore suits and came across less "drunk and/or High" then Muddy Waters etc

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...=697a775585e99d29582b7bbdd285167c&action=view

^^ WTF -- I'bve forgotten how to "make link"

time to put down the alcohol

OR DRINK MORE
 

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I saw Son Seals in Chicago (Kingston Mines) with wifey... we were the only honks in the joint.

Was friggin awesome show. Sweaty.

 

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another kind of forgotten "3rd generation" blues guy is Michael Bloomfield

I've listened to a little of his stuff - seemed like a very genuine approach to the roots of things

and I've heard a lot of accolades about him -- but he's outside of that scope of my "top tier" guys and "solid" artists


it's crazy to have been playing this long and realize that - for over 20 years I never really dissected the way any of those dudes PLAYED

too busy dissecting Page, Gilmour and Iommi

BUT - they led me back to the source anyway:beer:
 

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Don't forget about Peter Green from the original lineup for Fleetwood Mac. Monster guitar player who was a huge influence of British blues players.
 

CastleRubric

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Don't forget about Peter Green from the original lineup for Fleetwood Mac. Monster guitar player who was a huge influence of British blues players.

OH YES!!!
I keep one of his videos on file and actually tried to cover his style in a band when I was back in GA
Nice call cockcat!!!

((Bukka White is another old school dude that I THINK I sampled back in the day bit -- will give him a listen tonight)))

So here's my favorite Peter Green moment

That Les Paul tone SOUNDS like it's coming through a tube amp - probably a Vox or Fender --- and his relaxed style is something I really like......the "call and response" cadence of the guitar riff-vocals-guitar riff was supposedly one of the influences for Led Zeppelin's "Black Dog"

Peter White unfortunately went down hill mentally soon after this and almost never played again....

 

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WTF????

Did you get that custom made???

If you did you need to tell me where and how, sir


I see Jimmy Vaughn's name up there -- I never understood why he was considered noteworthy --- too generic and restrained and --- tone wasn't noteworthy.....I mean COME ON

Same for Robert Cray --- and he always picked UGLY *** Strats that were pea-soup green with the freakin ting slung up under his arm pits

Both were a waste of studio time as far as I'm concerned
 
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Kaizer Sosay

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WTF????

Did you get that custom made???

If you did you need to tell me where and how, sir

Nah, man. That would require too much effort on my part and I'm lazy. The magic and wizardry of Google found it.

Here's a more complete Blues Family Tree...

 

CastleRubric

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[laughing]

sheeeiiiiit --- mine would look less like a full bushy tree and more like a telephone pole

(queue up the East Tn "family tree" comparison)

I went from not listening to rock to sampling Queen and Dire Straits and kinda liking it

THEN I bought Led Zeppelin IV and Dark Side of the Moon simultaneously without really knowing what they were about -- two pretty good choices

That's when I quit football and started playing guitar all the damn time
Also about when I started getting laid when I wanted


I think Page, Gilmour and Iommi were the first guitar players I actually tried to copy......like 100,000 other guys

I managed to get Tony Iommi's autograph in Japan --me and two other GI's managed to stop his van before they could leave Nagano Sun Plaza.....no one else there spoke English so .......we kinda stood out and made a bit of a scene I guess......

he wouldn't get our of the van (I wouldn't have either) but he did agree to receive our paper and give the sign off

and THEN his hack-*** singer TONY MACK signed it too

LIKE WE WANTED HIS F"ING SIGNATURE!
F'ing TONY MACK -- go eat another plate of meatloaf you sour assed smelling snapper head




this response somehow went very wrong
......and I apologize for that