Bobby Petrino considered for HC at Missouri State..
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He could do well there, no place to go but up. Cant ruin whats already bad.
Petrino it is. The funny thing is that it seems the Briles rumor was put out there to make hiring Petrino less slimy.
Yeah, sue the SOB for the intentional damages he wrought to our football program.
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Per Twitter:
Word is that the top two candidates to become head coach at Missouri State are Art Briles and Bobby Petrino. Gen. Soleimani was believed to be the third finalist, but he missed his interview.
Word is that the top two candidates to become head coach at Missouri State are Art Briles and Bobby Petrino. Gen. Soleimani was believed to be the third finalist, but he missed his interview.
I’m going to hope for his sake that he can get it right one last time. When we think of the best times of Cardinal football, we’re going to think of Bobby.
We will think of that first run. Brohm and Bush. The move to the Big East. Beating Miami. The WVU win. The Orange Bowl win. Then we will think how his staff and him got Lamar here.
But the lies and he giving up in the last year. The constant interviews and saying how he’d never leave(he left). His transgressions post-UofL. We gave him a 2nd chance and then he just quit on the job.
He did a lot of good that did give our program a high trajectory and bettered the brand. But his faults hurt us badly too. Bobby should always be a controversial figure. I’m hoping for Mizzou State’s sake and his own sake, he can get it right.
We will think of that first run. Brohm and Bush. The move to the Big East. Beating Miami. The WVU win. The Orange Bowl win. Then we will think how his staff and him got Lamar here.
But the lies and he giving up in the last year. The constant interviews and saying how he’d never leave(he left). His transgressions post-UofL. We gave him a 2nd chance and then he just quit on the job.
He did a lot of good that did give our program a high trajectory and bettered the brand. But his faults hurt us badly too. Bobby should always be a controversial figure. I’m hoping for Mizzou State’s sake and his own sake, he can get it right.
What? He wasn’t humbled enough before. Guys with egos like his don’t usually change their stripes. First, it’s everybody else’s fault not theirs.
Springfield Missouri is a nice city/town. I spent some time there several times for a few years. I don’t see him being there long but with BP who knows.
I still would like to know his truth, if he even knows the truth to what happened.
I still would like to know his truth, if he even knows the truth to what happened.
If I had $14 million reasons to wreck my job I think I would consider it. Wonder if he will bring back the band members...sons, son in laws, losing coaches, etc.
IMO, it was the wife that wanted the family gathered. If he had half a brain, he will not make that mistake again. It’s rough when the whole family gets fired. Grandchildren can visit. But then again it’s suppose to be he!! working for him or so the story goes.
Aside from his ego and poor communication skills, one of his biggest downfalls was the inability to create or retain a quality staff. Hard to see many up and coming coaches that would want to ride in his wagon train.
I suspect, in Jurich's mind, it was a symbolic gesture of support. TJ went all in, as they say. Jurich kept Petrino in check, but also had his back 1,000%. It didn't work out.
His issues usually were with character and looking for another job, he never showed any issue with performance.
His first run at UofL he had us as a top 15 level program by the time he left. We were mad he left because we were that good.
His time at Arkansas he had them winning at a top 10 level getting BCS at large bids, only Les Miles and Saban could beat him. They had to fire him because of what he did, not for performance.
I mean we could’ve done a bit better early on, but who would’ve ever thought losing could happen under his watch? Look at his college career record, even bad years for him were 7-8 wins.
I’ve stated why I think he gave up, but I think he’s still the offensive genius we all saw for almost 2 decades. Maybe this will be his chance to do it on his terms.
Came here to see @Morgantown Card call for Mizz St. To FARRR that Sonofabeech.
Don't see BP ever doing well at a large school again. He simply cannot get quality coaches to join his staff. That was his big problem here 2nd time around.... and it showed. If he isn't blessed with Lamar, it's likely his entire 2nd stint is more sub par than it was
FARRRR THAT ROBBY PERTRINA
They are in the Missouri Valley. Along with FCS heavyweights North Dakota State, South Dakota State, and Northern Iowa. Going to be a tough road for Ole Bobby...
Did you show that sagacity and insight in 2014 when he was hired or in 2016 when his contract was extended? I don't remember it...
Jurich was not someone who included meaningless terms in contracts. Why don't we calculate what that "missing clause" was worth, now that we know the parameters?...
Buyout with no clause: $14 million
Buyout with offset clause
Gross amount: $14 million
Year 1 offset: $0
Year 2 offset: $0.25 million
Year 3 offset: $0.25 million
Net amount of buyout: $14 - 0.25 - 0.25 = $13.5 million
Potential savings: $0.5 million or 3.6% of the full buyout
So, the huge Jurich gaffe, oversight, sweetheart deal, or whatever you wanna call it was 3.6% of the $14,000,000 buyout that "Vince" gave Petrino within 24 hours of his decision to fire Petrino.
Maybe "Vince" should have simply offered 96.4% of it so we'd all feel better?...
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Jurich was not someone who included meaningless terms in contracts. Why don't we calculate what that "missing clause" was worth, now that we know the parameters?...
Buyout with no clause: $14 million
Buyout with offset clause
Gross amount: $14 million
Year 1 offset: $0
Year 2 offset: $0.25 million
Year 3 offset: $0.25 million
Net amount of buyout: $14 - 0.25 - 0.25 = $13.5 million
Potential savings: $0.5 million or 3.6% of the full buyout
So, the huge Jurich gaffe, oversight, sweetheart deal, or whatever you wanna call it was 3.6% of the $14,000,000 buyout that "Vince" gave Petrino within 24 hours of his decision to fire Petrino.
Maybe "Vince" should have simply offered 96.4% of it so we'd all feel better?...
Great summary. Now if you’ll just use your own data to identify whose mess Tyra is attempting to clean up when you show the financial numbers for the last two years, we promise to stop roasting you daily for being a dummy. Or at least I will ... can’t really speak for everyone else on here.
Before I do that analysis AGAIN, does Jurich get credit for the record $127 million in ULAA revenue that came in last year--TWO YEARS after his departure?
Just wanna know if that's a two-way road.
Your guy could have just offered 96%--bingo!--income offset. Petrino would have probably jumped all over it...
Your assumption is that he would have gotten the Mo State job and not somewhere else with a bigger payout. Looking back and calling the contract what it is not anything but honesty. The clause should have been there to protect the University from poaching, which had been an issue in the past.Jurich was not someone who included meaningless terms in contracts. Why don't we calculate what that "missing clause" was worth, now that we know the parameters?...
Buyout with no clause: $14 million
Buyout with offset clause
Gross amount: $14 million
Year 1 offset: $0
Year 2 offset: $0.25 million
Year 3 offset: $0.25 million
Net amount of buyout: $14 - 0.25 - 0.25 = $13.5 million
Potential savings: $0.5 million or 3.6% of the full buyout
So, the huge Jurich gaffe, oversight, sweetheart deal, or whatever you wanna call it was 3.6% of the $14,000,000 buyout that "Vince" gave Petrino within 24 hours of his decision to fire Petrino.
Maybe "Vince" should have simply offered 96.4% of it so we'd all feel better?...
If Petrino had a legit opportunity and wanted to take full advantage financially, he would have immediately sought the highest paying job he could find since there was no offset in his buyout. That would have put the most money in his pocket after three years (duration of buyout).
Instead, he waited a full year to accept a paltry $0.25 million. That would have been a minimal offset on a $14 million buyout. But I think that's what a guy like Jurich probably knew. If you send a guy packing, it's likely he's not very marketable for awhile. So what is that offset worth? We just found out, a few percent.
Protection from "poaching" is the buyout the coach has to pay to take a better job elsewhere. That buyout was in Petrino's contract to the tune of $10 million IIRC, which for example was twice that same buyout in Brohm's contract. U of L had outsized protection in that situation...
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You're using "opportunities" in reference to where Petrino was in 2016. You don't know what his marketability was, and Jurich wasn't waiting to find out.
I used the word while referring to a coach sent packing and paid a buyout with or without offset. That's what this discussion is about and not a guy who's experiencing success in his job. In this case, after just winning nine games and the Music City Bowl.
Neither Petrino nor any other coach has great income opportunities after they're fired WRT a huge buyout. That's why the offset isn't worth but a few percent. "Vince" would have been far better off--as Jurich would too--trying to negotiate that buyout down for other reasons...
The question is absolutely relevant to the extension. Jurich wasn’t waiting to find out? Why not? You have written in the past about the “relationship” Jurich had with Bobby. It was the reason Jurich would have never had to pay the 14 million that Vince NQ paid, contract be damned. So why not wait to find out what Bobby’s market value was? What was the rush? They had such a great “relationship” that Bobby surely would have given TJ the chance to match his offer, right?
Jurich was proactive. He compensated his coaches as well as they were GOING TO BE compensated somewhere else. That was his M.O.
Again, this discussion is over the events of 2018, not prior...
Almost all of the posts have concerned the buyout, the extension and the original rehire. To think that Bobby was going to be paid by anybody is problematic. To think he should be extended prematurely is highly questionable. History shows that extension didn’t buy Bobby’s loyalty. He left for the Falcons months after getting a huge extension from UofL.
Exactly this. I want to see who he can hire there. Probably not many outside of his family willing to work for the guy at this point.