Just so you guys all know, neither Republicans or Democrats give two ***** about any of you guys that are defending them like family members. They just care about themselves and getting re-elected/getting money. It costs like 1 million dollars to buy a 500 square foot loft in DC, yet they all live in giant mansions. Just wanted to give you a little FYI there. I grew up in West Virginia, Joe Mansion (who is a Democrat - remember he's for a welfare state!1!!) got his daughter to be the president of Mylan which is gouging people left and right with the EpiPen and she makes 20 million a year, but of course the pharmaceutical companies won't get any flack at all because they have all the politicians in their pockets. They are all loving you guys arguing back and forth like a bunch of idiots over bathroom bills and other stupid crap while both democrats and republicans continue to fleece and take advantage of the american people and get rich along with massive corporations.
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Mostly true but which party booted its two ranking House leaders even though they had the majority and also had a serious primary for their Senate leader? Compare how many GOP leaders and media members have gone after Trump with how many Dem leaders (zero) have dared do so with HRC. Night and day. Pretty sure not one of 250+ sitting D congresspeople endorsed Bernie even though he polled nearly even with her.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/03/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-jailed-for-contempt
The Kentucky county clerk who made herself a national celebrity by refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses was jailed Thursday for contempt of court.
Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis was taken into custody by U.S. marshals, according to reporters on the scene.
In sending her to jail, U.S. District Judge David Bunning ignored the American Civil Liberties Union's request that Davis be fined to compel compliance with orders that she issue marriage licenses.
ACLU attorney Heather Weaver, who is working on the case, said there was testimony about fundraising efforts on Davis' behalf, apparently a factor in the judge's decision not to impose financial penalties.
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Inform yourself. You're ignorant.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/u...s-kentucky-judge-david-bunning-kim-davis.html
Long before he ordered a county clerk to jail on Thursday for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses, David L. Bunning first drew attention as a federal judge for a ruling on gay rights.
In 2003, he ordered the school system of rural Boyd County, Ky., to allow a student group, the Gay-Straight Alliance, to meet on school grounds. He later oversaw a legal settlement that included anti-harassment sessions for the system’s students.
After the initial resolution of the Boyd County case, Judge Bunning decided against the school system again in 2006, ruling that it could not let students who opposed gay rights opt out of anti-harassment sessions. He was overruled by an appellate court.
In 2007, sitting temporarily on the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals, he was part of a three-judge panel that unanimously struck down a Michigan law banning the procedure that abortion opponents call partial-birth abortion.
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Oh okay, you got me buddy, only the democrats are bad and republicans do it all for the good of the people! Good stuff!! Jesus you guys are too far gone, like trying to talk a muslim down from committing an attack. Anyway I said my peace, have fun arguing politics everyone!
Pretty sure everyone knows neither of the two major parties give a **** about the people.
That's why you have half the electorate ready to vote for a democrat with an R next to his name simply to try and shake things up in Washington.
The Rs and Ds hate Trump more than they hate the average American, which in my opinion is a good thing.
Clinton is more of the same policies, loaded with unimaginable more corruption.
All that being said, the only vote in this election I think can be justified is a vote for Johnson. Not because he's a good candidate (he's not) but because a third party needs to get some national recognition. Asking Trump or Clinton to accept tax dollars to represent you in DC is unjustifiable.
I still haven't convinced myself to go to the ballot box to ask Johnson to go to Washington to represent me. Might just write in a dirty *** towel.
That's why you have half the electorate ready to vote for a democrat with an R next to his name simply to try and shake things up in Washington.
The Rs and Ds hate Trump more than they hate the average American, which in my opinion is a good thing.
Clinton is more of the same policies, loaded with unimaginable more corruption.
All that being said, the only vote in this election I think can be justified is a vote for Johnson. Not because he's a good candidate (he's not) but because a third party needs to get some national recognition. Asking Trump or Clinton to accept tax dollars to represent you in DC is unjustifiable.
I still haven't convinced myself to go to the ballot box to ask Johnson to go to Washington to represent me. Might just write in a dirty *** towel.
I think overly dramatic simplistic vags like you are too far gone. You made a statement that I mostly agreed with and then gave you factual reasons why at least the GOP is, to at least some degree, pushing some accountability....and then you respond with the bolded above which is not at all what was said. People like you that can't process context or nuance are as big an issue as anything.
Yep, thrown in jail for being Christian. That is exactly it.
Also, when people fail to use logic or salient facts in creating huge world opinions, one can infer they are uneducated, or that education isnt important. I mean look at this guy. He genuinely believes that people were thrown in jail for being Christian. No matter how foolish that is, he believes it. Same as Newt saying people feel the unsafest they ever have in history, when all facts show otherwise. When you take the data, and come up with different conclusions than the data/facts, thats emotional malarkey. Normal adults use basic logic all the time. Speed limit is 55, you travel at 60, your speeding. Thats logic. Many on here, think, oh the speed limit is 55, Im going 60, therefor Obama hates white people. So when I see people lack basic fundamental reasoning skills, a proper inference would be what? They are hyper educated and intelligent and just refuse to acknowledge reason and facts?
"Hey, all facts show that violent crime is declining."
"Hey, you saw that riot right? It proves otherwise."
No, no it doesnt. Those are the conclusions of hysterical people.
Now, its not the entire right, and I would never assume that, its just a bunch of guys on this board. Ben Shapiro argues his point succinctly all the time using data and facts.
Also, when people fail to use logic or salient facts in creating huge world opinions, one can infer they are uneducated, or that education isnt important. I mean look at this guy. He genuinely believes that people were thrown in jail for being Christian. No matter how foolish that is, he believes it. Same as Newt saying people feel the unsafest they ever have in history, when all facts show otherwise. When you take the data, and come up with different conclusions than the data/facts, thats emotional malarkey. Normal adults use basic logic all the time. Speed limit is 55, you travel at 60, your speeding. Thats logic. Many on here, think, oh the speed limit is 55, Im going 60, therefor Obama hates white people. So when I see people lack basic fundamental reasoning skills, a proper inference would be what? They are hyper educated and intelligent and just refuse to acknowledge reason and facts?
"Hey, all facts show that violent crime is declining."
"Hey, you saw that riot right? It proves otherwise."
No, no it doesnt. Those are the conclusions of hysterical people.
Now, its not the entire right, and I would never assume that, its just a bunch of guys on this board. Ben Shapiro argues his point succinctly all the time using data and facts.
You mischaracterized my statement, pal. That's called a straw man. I never said "for being a Christian." But she WAS thrown in jail AGAINST the policy of simply firing or fining her because the judge knew people would pay her fine for her. He wanted to punish her and all she was doing was following her religious beliefs.
Nice try at moving the goalposts, but I gave you an example after you denied one existed. Thus, you lose.
I've read some dumb comments on here, especially straw men, but that has to be the single most imbecilic comment I've ever seen on this board.
That's known as gaslighting. You can't piss on someone and tell them it's raining, not anymore.
People are wising up, and your precious Democrats are about to be thrown out of the government on their ears.
Also, if you really believe violent crime is declining, then you shouldn't be anti-gun, amirite?
factual (scientifica - Latin) facty facts:
(CNN)Violent crime is on the rise so far this year in major cities across the US compared to the number of homicides, rapes, robberies, assaults and shootings that occurred in the same cities by this point in 2015, a new report has found.
The midyear violent crime survey released Monday by the Major Cities Chiefs Association shows 307 more homicides so far in 2016, according to data from 51 law enforcement agencies from some of the largest US cities.
In addition to a large increase in homicides, major cities in the US have experienced more than 1,000 more robberies, almost 2,000 more aggravated assaults and more than 600 non-fatal shootings in 2016 compared to this time last year. The only category of violent crime not reflecting an increase when compared to last year is rape.
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Shooting deaths of law enforcement officers spiked 78 percent in the first half of 2016 compared to last year, including an alarming increase in ambush-style assaults like the ones that killed eight officers in Dallas and Baton Rouge, according to a report released Wednesday.
I am not anti gun. I carry every day.
Also:
Government statistics show that, except for some small blips, serious crime has decreased almost every year from 1994 through 2013. For over a decade Gallup has found that the majority of Americans polled believe crime is up, contrary to the fact that crime rates have plummeted in almost every small and large city since the 1990s. This is not to say that all cities and areas are experiencing decreases in violent crime year after year, but the overall rate of violent crime is significantly lower than historic levels.- Brookings institute
From the FBI
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/what-caused-the-crime-decline/477408/
From the FBI again:
Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago. According to a new Pew Research Center survey, today 56% of Americans believe gun crime is higher than 20 years ago and only 12% think it is lower.
Fact Check
For example, the number of murders in Dallas peaked at 500 in 1991, but dropped to nearly half that (231) in 2000, according to data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics, which is based on voluntary reporting by local police departments. By 2012, the number had dropped further, to 154. That’s not adjusted for population — it’s the sheer numbers of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter reported.
So, the number of murders in Dallas went from 500 in 1991 to 154 in 2012, a decrease of 70 percent. The murder rate, offenses per 100,000 in population, dropped from 48.6 to 12.4 in that same time frame, a 74 percent decrease.
I get the Brookings Institute, Pew Research and the actual FBI arent First Major Number One News Reporting, but you know.
From the FBI again:
Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago. According to a new Pew Research Center survey, today 56% of Americans believe gun crime is higher than 20 years ago and only 12% think it is lower.
Fact Check
For example, the number of murders in Dallas peaked at 500 in 1991, but dropped to nearly half that (231) in 2000, according to data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics, which is based on voluntary reporting by local police departments. By 2012, the number had dropped further, to 154. That’s not adjusted for population — it’s the sheer numbers of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter reported.
So, the number of murders in Dallas went from 500 in 1991 to 154 in 2012, a decrease of 70 percent. The murder rate, offenses per 100,000 in population, dropped from 48.6 to 12.4 in that same time frame, a 74 percent decrease.
I get the Brookings Institute, Pew Research and the actual FBI arent First Major Number One News Reporting, but you know.
The data literally shows a decline in crime yet its cherry picked. :joy::joy::joy:
Thanks. Pretty obvious we are done. I know the next retort will be "nuh uh" or something of the same effect, so I can pass. I mean :joy::joy::joy:
no you pompous dipshit, I pointed out that the data trend has gone up. No one has argued that the violent crime stats have been down....as a matter of fact conservatives like me use that same data to argue against gun control. You say ignore the clear uptick., I say we should not ignore.
:joy::joy::joy: so much wrong with your "trend" analysis, its almost like you have no idea about statistical significance at all. Im shocked. :scream:
All I want to know is Clown Violence on the rise?
They try to rape and drown people; they gang rape their females and sometimes hold them hostage for weeks; they murder baby porpoises for fun; they kill the babies of rival male dolphins, because as soon as her child dies, a female dolphin is ready to be raped and impregnated immediately.
I don't understand why you are laughing. He posts an article discussing the uptrend in homicides from 2025 -2016 and you post data from 2006-2011 and say he is wrong.
Look at numbers again. I posted more than a 5 year range, and more than a 6 month nonsignificant bleep that looked at major cities. Color me shocked that you don't understand. Maybe even look up what a trend is as well.
That data is FIVE YEARS OLD. There have been more mass shootings in the last YEAR than in the previous TEN YEARS combined.http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/what-caused-the-crime-decline/477408/
From the FBI again:
Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago. According to a new Pew Research Center survey, today 56% of Americans believe gun crime is higher than 20 years ago and only 12% think it is lower.
Fact Check
For example, the number of murders in Dallas peaked at 500 in 1991, but dropped to nearly half that (231) in 2000, according to data from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Statistics, which is based on voluntary reporting by local police departments. By 2012, the number had dropped further, to 154. That’s not adjusted for population — it’s the sheer numbers of murders and nonnegligent manslaughter reported.
So, the number of murders in Dallas went from 500 in 1991 to 154 in 2012, a decrease of 70 percent. The murder rate, offenses per 100,000 in population, dropped from 48.6 to 12.4 in that same time frame, a 74 percent decrease.
I get the Brookings Institute, Pew Research and the actual FBI arent First Major Number One News Reporting, but you know.
Besides, the whole "crime increasing" canard is YOUR straw man. I never said it.
You didn't address any of my other points other than the Christian being put in jail, which I OWNED YOU on.
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You really believe people are being put in jail for being Christian in America. That's literally the dumbest thing ever said on the Internet. Grats. That's had work. You are the dumbest person on the Internet.
Also, you knuckle dragging mouth breather, the stats go to 2015. But I guess thats 5 years old.
Also, I dont know why I have to explain to you that picking one stat about mass shootings in a one year period doesnt equal a trend. This makes my head hurt explaining basic things to you.
http://www.ucrdatatool.gov/index.cfm
here is the damn government tool where you can see for yourself. Run a querey, and you can look at the numbers. Its pretty obvious. Now, here is a heads up about trends and stats, some years, even if a number goes up, that doesnt mean its a different trend. I get you dont understand that, so thought I would help you.
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When the left says gays are born that way because science, but then praises Caitlyn Jenner for changing his gender to a female, are they denying science? Gender identification and being homosexual arent the same thing. The fact you think being gay is a choice, when all other data says otherwise, including gays themselves, shows that you are a monkey.
Since 1973 the rights of over fifty million unborn babies have been taken away by the abortion mills because abortion is the holy sacrament of the left. Ghoulish destroyers.
Yes, the left believe that a fetus isnt a person. So when you abort a fetus, youre not killing a child. By giving a woman a choice over her own body, you are being open, by confining her to your beliefs, you enslave her and shows you are a monkey. The Supreme Court agrees, you know, just the final arbitrator of laws in this country. Unlike you, I respect our laws.
When it's a demonstrative fact that the majority of terrorist attacks come from muslims, and ISIS announces they are infiltrating refugee groups to enter the U.S., are Obama and Hillary being LOGICAL when they pursue an INCREASE of refugee settlements from Syria over 500 percent?
You are literally trying to show that by helping a distressed populace, that the left is restrictive? No, they are helping. No matter how many times you say it, not all Muslims are terrorists. The fact that yo think they are all bad, shows you are a biggot monkey, who wants to restrict the freedoms of other people's. Just because there are muslim terrorists, doesnt mean they all are. Its like saying all Jews are bad. Grats on being like Hitler, who was not known for giving rights and freedoms to people.
Is it LOGICAL for Hillary and Obama and the LEFT to whine about the 'poor families' of illegals who would be separated if we simply FOLLOWED THE IMMIGRATION LAWS of this country, while at the same time lying right to the faces of the families of Christopher Stephens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods, who were killed in Benghazi due to Hillary's incompetence and recklessness?
You are comparing apples to oranges here. The equating the two is insane. Its like saying I think you lied about murdering your wife because you dont like orange juice. Have you not seen the facts that show Obama has deported more illegals than any other president? No, because it doesnt fit your agenda. Also, it immigration has nothing to do with Bengazi. The fact you think it does shows you are a mouth breathing monkey that cant put together two strings of rational thought.
How much "pro thought" do you have to be to suck as much corporate tax money from companies until they move overseas, depriving Americans of jobs and income, while reducing taxes is PROVEN to increase investment in business and grow the economy? It's so simple and obvious that it's not POSSIBLE for Obama and Hillary and the left to be that ignorant. It's deliberate.
Are you trying to argue Trickle down economics? This has been proven incorrect for decades. The fact you think its viable shows you are an antiquated monkey that doesnt understand economics.
It's YOU on the LEFT who seeks to destroy thought, legislate behavior, steal from producers, and buy yourselves votes while throwing Christians in jail and simultaneously defending those who wish to destroy our culture and our country.
The fact you think people are getting arrest just for being Christian is insane. Totally insane.
Not one of your thoughts makes any sense, not in any world does denying people rights, taking away money from the poor, supporting antiquated economic theory show you are educated and pro-thought.
Im done with you. This isnt a debate, because ever thing you have spewed comes from incorrect data, antiquated and outdated models and comes from a place of feeling. You are an uneducated mook who is just as bad as a terrorist. Your ilk has persecuted others for long enough.
Your only reply to every point is to call me a bigot and a monkey. You can't even spell bigot correctly. And you answer my facts with innuendo and opinion.
You failed to construct any arguments. You illustrate that the left DOESN'T WANT TO DEBATE, they just want to CANCEL the debate through Alinsky tactics, ridicule and name calling.
You fail.
I just destroyed every argument of yours, and your reply is nuh uh. So when I debunk your homosexual vs gender theory, its me just name calling? Thanks.
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
Hey LEK, Is that the same science that says if you have a penis and testicles that you are in fact a male? Can we just decide what we are now?
Helping refugees is fine, over there. Bringing them into our communities, when it has been shown over and over that our cultures don't coexist well, and ISIS is trying to filter in with them is ignorant! Besides, they aren't all refugees, most aren't even from Syria, just the Middle East.
Helping refugees is fine, over there. Bringing them into our communities, when it has been shown over and over that our cultures don't coexist well, and ISIS is trying to filter in with them is ignorant! Besides, they aren't all refugees, most aren't even from Syria, just the Middle East.
No, an ad hominem is when my only response is an insult. My responses included breaking down your arguments with facts, stats, data and logic, I just topped it with a cherry (thats code for insult puppers)
If I say 2+2 =4, and call you a dumbass, does that invalidate it? Does 2+2 not equal 4? No. That is what you are claiming.
Good lord your stupidity is maddening.
As someone wiser than me said, other people's stupidity is my kryptonite.
Crime is down...but so are mass shootings...so liberals need to take their own advice when trying to implement gun control
You offered no facts in that response, just opinions. This is why our country is failing. You think opinions are facts.
Hint: Bolding and using larger font doesn't make your comment any smarter.
Also, weren't you supposed to be 'done' with me?
LOL
Hillary screams "WHY AREN'T I FIFTY POINTS AHEAD?"
Watch video here.
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/09/friday-morning-thread-3/
Watch video here.
https://www.hotgas.net/2016/09/friday-morning-thread-3/
Stupidity is my kryptonite. I posted facts from fbi, brookings, pew, etc. established numbers and yet it isnt considered facts in your world. If you want, I will post all the established data that shows gay is not a choice or data showing gender identity isnt the same thing as being gay, I can keep busting you up all day. You think were equals, were not. I have presented fact after fact. You think Christians are going to jail for being Christians. You think there is some law that says, hey, lets lock up Christians.
Like for example, when you try and say Im using ad hominem because I insult you, its you lacking the skill set to properly use it. Hence, when I say 2+2=4, dumbass, it doesnt make it ad hominem.
I get it, as I cite information ,you will just retort nuh uh, and repeat what I said, yet missing key elements. I am dealing with an ape. I know better. Good luck to you, you can have the last response, as I am sure it will be something completely as stupid as all your other posts.
