Bryce Mostella Twitter Today
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Sounds like a scholarship may possibly be opening up for a Portal DE.......
Not at all. And it’s the kind of background noise happening over a multi-year period that causes issues for Franklin and the program.Wow, that doesn't paint a pretty picture.....
I’ve wondered how much the lawsuit/player complaints from a couple years ago impacted the 2021 class drop off.
Read the whole thing, if that is all true that's not a good look at all.
One of the big reasons I've been pro CJF was that I felt he was the opposite kind of guy with regard to these things. That he was always pro student-athlete and having a culture with maintaining some semblance of academics. Even if this isn't the whole story it's still should not have happened.
Wow, that doesn't paint a pretty picture.....
It doesn't. But keep in mind that you're only hearing one side of the picture, and it's unlikely that the other side of the picture will ever be presented.
Assuming some of the basic components of what Mostella depict are correct, it reminds me somewhat of the situation with Marc Kielmeyer. (And I'm sure I could find a few other examples.) There are kids that despite all the health and nutrition training, just can not add weight to their bodies. When that happens, both sides are in a tough position. Most of the time, things are handled pretty quietly, and fans don't learn any of the messy details.
True, not a good look.
A part that raised eyebrows - I can’t go home. There’s no place to stay there. Home as in with parents?
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A part that raised eyebrows - I can’t go home. There’s no place to stay there. Home as in with parents?
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I highly doubt this is the full and accurate story.
What kind of a load of sh|t is this? I don’t want to criticize anyone, but allow me to trash Franklin and the coaching staff. If you don’t want to criticize the school or any of its employees, then don’t. And stay the f*ck off social media.
Some interesting things to note:
-he says he was offered a medical redshirt but declined it. Maybe he thinks he can ride out the storm and be a Big 10 player. Still, he could have graduated and finished his college career as an outside part of the team and not be in the position he currently sits.
-his weight got down to his HS freshman weight. This is big time CFB. You can't expect us to play with Bama and OSU with players who don't develop.
-kid mentions unable to go home. Kids with poor (conceived, or actual) home situations are prone to make bad decisions with no guidance (or guidance not taken).
I feel terrible for the kid, but one has to wonder what he thought major college football was going to be.
-he says he was offered a medical redshirt but declined it. Maybe he thinks he can ride out the storm and be a Big 10 player. Still, he could have graduated and finished his college career as an outside part of the team and not be in the position he currently sits.
-his weight got down to his HS freshman weight. This is big time CFB. You can't expect us to play with Bama and OSU with players who don't develop.
-kid mentions unable to go home. Kids with poor (conceived, or actual) home situations are prone to make bad decisions with no guidance (or guidance not taken).
I feel terrible for the kid, but one has to wonder what he thought major college football was going to be.
Fair points, Tom. Perhaps it’s the modern game or some issue with how the program is run, but there’s been a consistent undercurrent of things like this for a while. As PSUFTG says above, there are some facts that don’t line up and cause lingering questions.
I struggle a bit wit the fact that kids want to be paid and see this as a business more than ever. That brings an emphasis on production and accountability more than ever before. They can’t have it both ways either.
It is undoubtedly his perception of the situation, and people with the program probably have a different perspective on the same set of facts. In the course of attempting to do things that he needed to do potentially compete for PT, he not only fell short, he also developed mental health issues. That's a hard road to walk. There are things that he acknowledges the staff offered to do, some of which he declined. Could the staff have read and handled the situation better, probably. Could the young man and his family handled it better, also probably.
Not unrelated but I still don’t understand why coaches are shocked when a player can’t keep on weight. Maybe don’t offer a lanky 235 lb DE and hope he can add 20 lbs? Connor couldn’t keep weight on, Maybin struggled, Simmons struggled, Toney struggled, etc. Tough break for the kid but most shocking is the staff apathy (removing him from the DL chat is low) if true. Bad look for CJF - he can’t seem to get out of his own way.
Yeah, I was gonna put that in there, that this is only one side, same as Humphries. I can believe parts of this statement, but not all. Different perspectives always.
Isnt this what the portal is for? Nothing wrong with dropping down a level and continuing your football career at a Villanova level school. I’ve seen 12 year olds cut from the local travel soccer team so I’m not sure what he expects on the big time college football stage.
Is part of it that Big Ten member institutions are obligated to honor a four year scholarship and negging a player who isn't able to add weight or improve to the coaches satisfaction a way to clear up the scholarship (by getting the kid to transfer)? Penn State offered, he accepted, and his scholarship should be good for four years. Seems like there are some issues with his disenrolling for a semester that messed things up regarding his living situation at Penn State.
Ellis Johnson was another one of these guys right? I'm becoming less and less of a Franklin coaching fan each season, but I think he is a good man, this stuff doesn't square with me. I feel like kids cite mental illness often these days, could this be as simple as Franklin saying "put on the weight or transfer," something that assuredly happens at many big time college football teams.
This is something I'd be interested in figuring out proper.
Did he break his scholarship agreement when he left during the semester? Does that affect enrollment the following semester?
These seem like things that get fixed for star players and turn into a hassle for those who are being processed out.
The cause of our high transfer rates in many cases related to hangover from the sanctions. We were forced to take kids of less ability do to the sanctions and our perceived reputation coming out of them. As we have been able to acquit better talent the lesser talent has been leaving. Look how few of the transfers left for equal or better schools or made big impacts at P5 schools elsewhere. While it gives you our narrative you want it’s just not true.
If the university and coaching staff didn’t provide him with medical support and academic guidance throughout the process, then I have a serious issue with what’s happened.
In reading between the lines, I see a young man who was struggling with chronic mental health issues, which were exacerbated by the demands of the program and his inability to meet those demands. When he’s hospitalized in connection with his football related struggles, why would John Scott continue to send him text messages about football?
In reading between the lines, I see a young man who was struggling with chronic mental health issues, which were exacerbated by the demands of the program and his inability to meet those demands. When he’s hospitalized in connection with his football related struggles, why would John Scott continue to send him text messages about football?
The very first paragraph of the withdrawal policy and a couple other related bits:
Withdrawal from the Penn State University is a serious action. The University has the responsibility to advise the student of the implications of the withdrawal action. However, it is the responsibility of the student who withdraws from enrollment in courses at the Penn State University to make the final decision and to understand the implication of their withdrawal action.
Students who live in a residence hall must check out of the hall within 24 hours after processing the withdrawal action.
University physicians have the option of placing registration holds on students withdrawing for medical reasons. This hold will require that the student consult with University physicians before a re-enrollment request will be approved.
Withdrawal
Withdrawal from the Penn State University is a serious action. The University has the responsibility to advise the student of the implications of the withdrawal action. However, it is the responsibility of the student who withdraws from enrollment in courses at the Penn State University to make the final decision and to understand the implication of their withdrawal action.
Students who live in a residence hall must check out of the hall within 24 hours after processing the withdrawal action.
University physicians have the option of placing registration holds on students withdrawing for medical reasons. This hold will require that the student consult with University physicians before a re-enrollment request will be approved.
Withdrawal
No, a medical retirement. He didn't play and would qualify for a redshirt.
My point was, many of his gripes in his Tweets are an expected outcome according to university policy. It took me 3 seconds to find the policy.
Kid had a 4 year FULL scholarship WITH a stipend but thought he was just a football player. He wasted an opportunity that is afforded very few in this world. Once he realized football was not going to work out he should have 100% concentrated on the academics. They offered him a medical which would have allowed him to keep his scholarship without affecting the team. Kid made a very bad choice.
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As a psychiatric unit manager? That's not his job. Sounds like this young man's parents should have taken him home a while ago. There are expectations for a B10 level athlete regarding training, and if a player will not fulfill those requirements or can not, he should not be on the football team. It would be unreasonable to assume that the PSU medical staff has not given this young man advice on his health and well being, but other than making sure the medical staff looks at and makes an attempt to help the kid, and informing the kids parents, this is not Franklin's job.
Your line of thinking would align with those that blamed Paterno for not being ware of the details of what Sandusky was doing and therefore hold Paterno responsible.
If this is true, as head coach of the program and as DL coach, both Franklin and Scott absolutely have a responsibility to care for this kid. Franklin preaches family, but this isn't family. So, Franklin should either shut up about the family or live up to it.
Kid needs help and coaches weren't there to support him after he couldn't put on weight and they viewed him as deadweight and cast him aside. They left it to others to deal with him.
It is also much different than how Joey Julius situation was handled. So not totally sure what to make of it. But if true, this is disappointing to hear, and Franklin has lost my support as he appears to be non-genuine and doesn't live up to the values he preaches. This was the knock against Franklin. At least win some freakin' games if you are going to behave like this. But I guess it goes to show, Penn State really isn't much different than other programs.
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I love how people form an opinion by reading a twitter post from one individual. There's a sucker born every minute and many of them live here.
The only thing I find interesting is that he admits that he was offered an opportunity to medically retire. So, what's the problem? Take it and get your degree for free.
Not everyone can be a division one football player. Too small, too slow, not skilled enough, not dedicated enough, can't handle the rigors of the academics and the demands of the sport. There's no shame in that. I hope he takes the medical retirement, gets his degree and finds success in his life. The first step to this is to stop blaming others for your failures.
The only thing I find interesting is that he admits that he was offered an opportunity to medically retire. So, what's the problem? Take it and get your degree for free.
Not everyone can be a division one football player. Too small, too slow, not skilled enough, not dedicated enough, can't handle the rigors of the academics and the demands of the sport. There's no shame in that. I hope he takes the medical retirement, gets his degree and finds success in his life. The first step to this is to stop blaming others for your failures.
Really, do you have stats? Because Michigan State has lost 16 so far this year and of those 13 have entered the portal.
So should I take that to mean you don't have the stats?As I wrote: "a program that has so many transfer out over the years (most in the Big Ten, as of last year anyway)" You are more than welcome to go add them up for yourself, for every Big Ten squad. I already have - but you don't seem to want to accept that, and should probably just see for yourself
